DSA normal is officially a solo content

andy_s · June 2015

Since there is not much to do now, I deciced to make a little challenge for myself and complete normal Dragonstar Arena solo on my stamina NB. Here are the videos (click on "playlist" to select a stage):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-mmIFDXOmg&list=PLFYuDEXsLNTmk7EFD4npOX7KzDEOIcHeq&index=1

Stage 1-9 armor: 5x Viciuous Ophidian (medium set from SO), 5x Ravager, 2x ashen grip (weapons).
Stage 10 armor: 5x heavy Hist Bark, 2x Engine Guardian, Pact shield & sword, any jewelry with reduce stamina cost enchant (can leave 3 ravager rings and neck).

Now the darkside... These videos also show the current state of PVE:

People are bored without new content, doing weird things like VDSA with dual wield tanks, 2h healers, SO 6-man runs, and normal DSA solo of course
PVE lags are real, the whole stage 7 lagged a lot, and partially 8-9 stages. And they always lag, whether I go normal or veteran with group or solo. My connection is ok, other arenas work perfectly.
#nerfsteeltornado, #nerfnb, #nerfcaltrops, #nerfvigor
Vigor is actually a useful PVE skill, and crucial for some builds.
Some champion system passives are bugged, Major Heroism lasts longer than intended, but when it ends, it's gone forever (till relog or unknown amount of deaths).
Health bar bug is still here, you can see it in the end of 10th arena. Full HP, then instantly dead, but not this time :P
Mobs' skills are outdated, so is the content. Oh wait, I said that already...
Need more CP to grind faster.

Happy adventuring!

DschiPeunt · June 2015

Really good work. Congratz from me. I'm impressed!

And I totally agree with your description of the state of ESO PvE content.

tengri · June 2015

You forgot #nerveelitists.
Only because some ppl have grinded their way to extremely powerful characters normal DSA is not "officially" solo content. Obviously normal DSA is not for you anymore... radical idea: find something else then.

Paradox · June 2015

tengri wrote: »

You forgot #nerveelitists.
Only because some ppl have grinded their way to extremely powerful characters normal DSA is not "officially" solo content. Obviously normal DSA is not for you anymore... radical idea: find something else then.

There is nothing else after DSA/vDSA. The trials are all cakewalks and there has been no new content in how long? The champion system effectively destroyed the difficulty of any content. Everyone is always talking about the veteran system and how it gives the game longevity, and yet the champion system and Zenis inability to produce difficult content or fix issues with the champion system are singlehandedly destroying any type of longevity this game ever had or will have.

Locke_ESO · June 2015

I just hope that new content is going to start coming fast now that we have had console release. Given it's been over a year since Craglorn came out and 6 months for Upper Craglorn the game is in desperate need of some new big content.

Xendyn · June 2015

Grats to you! (I think lol)

I think your points about content are right on. For sure it's way past time for some new content.
Please by the grace of the Divines, make it have some replayability, too.

Prizax · June 2015

nice job :P

Shunravi · June 2015

Nicely done!

Slonekb05 · June 2015

Another example that this game is suck on your thumb easy.

Shunravi · June 2015

Slonekb05 wrote: »

Another example that this game is suck on your thumb easy.

Well at least it's pretty!

Lol...

Elijah_Crow · June 2015

Just to put this in perspective however, you are the 1%. I with my wife, sister, and brother worked on DSA last night. We got to stage 6 and did learn how to defeat it before calling it for the evening. 2 of us are VR14 and 2 VR12. They are still learning their end game builds and trying new strategies. I haven't unlocked Vigor or Caltrops yet on my Nightblade.

You are just so far ahead of the average player and no harder content has been created for you, that you feel like it's broken. Start a new account and go solo DSA. Even with all you know it will take forever to get there again.

Zorgon_The_Revenged · June 2015

#nerfnb?

No, I want a NB to sneak up behind you and hit you with a 50K+ wrecking blow from stealth every time you leave the gate for the second round.

But, yes.....oh and well done.

Knootewoot · June 2015

I can never do this on my magicka vampire NB. I came to final boss once with a V14 group. We didn't make it

Fecius · June 2015

One tea to @andy.s!

This is true. I understand that there are always someone who makes his or her first steps in Tamriel. Yeah, there is a lot of staff for them to do on this stage.

Problem is. We've played this game since it's BETA. vDSA was 1st killed in December i guess. Not sure, can't remember exact date right now. HM SO was killed in January. Since then personally for me, there's nothing left to do but grind CP after 1.6.

Ah, yeah, a week ago we've got a new content, called "Fish Rush". So, I'm getting throw this right now.

Sotha_Sil · June 2015

#Nerf Nightblades

- We were promised group content this is solo ?

-Where is the VR DSA solo video ?

Rosveen · June 2015

People asked for challenging solo content tho... So now you have it.

The Uninvited · June 2015

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

Just to put this in perspective however, you are the 1%. I with my wife, sister, and brother worked on DSA last night. We got to stage 6 and did learn how to defeat it before calling it for the evening. 2 of us are VR14 and 2 VR12. They are still learning their end game builds and trying new strategies. I haven't unlocked Vigor or Caltrops yet on my Nightblade.

You are just so far ahead of the average player and no harder content has been created for you, that you feel like it's broken. Start a new account and go solo DSA. Even with all you know it will take forever to get there again.

This.

Darkeus · June 2015

race pls and more details about your build.

Rinmaethodain · June 2015

I hate when people generalise things in both ways:

- hey i can beat everything solo then everything must be way too easy for everyone plx increase difficulty
- hey i cant beat everything solo then if i cant do it then surely everyone cant do it alone plx nerf everythung

I_killed_Vivec · June 2015

My worry is that they said (I know...) that DLC would be leveled to your character. That was back in January, pre CP System, so I assume they meant leveling by VR.

But now it's clear that there's a big difference between "brand new" VR14, and those who have hundreds of CP and the benefits of gear and skills that months of "grinding" have achieved.

Are they going to level new content by CP count?

If they don't then some people will find new content too easy. If they do then it looks like they will be forcing people to "correctly" use their CP, which goes against the "horizontal" progress they heralded (I know...).

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · June 2015

The video above shows how unbalanced CPs are when comes to PvP also. It "semi-replaced" the VR system, which at least was more balanced. (plus the removal of softcaps).

All in all, the game was fine and balanced with softcaps and the VR system.

Now we have Andy and others, complaining that everything is easy........ Seem they forgot that the content was designed pre 1.6.

ZoS is killing this game by listening to the cries for more power. It has killed the PvE content, and made Cyrodiil a fragfest.
They need to put a HUGE nerf horizontally across the board and limit all damage done to 25% of what it is now.
The rest who care about proper PVP and not fragfest, seems we should be looking forward to Camelot Unchained, while others went back to EVE also.

Fecius · June 2015

MaximusDargus wrote: »

I hate when people generalise things in both ways:

- hey i can beat everything solo then everything must be way too easy for everyone plx increase difficulty
- hey i cant beat everything solo then if i cant do it then surely everyone cant do it alone plx nerf everythung

Noone wants a nerf or a buff of current content. We need some new Trials and Challenges. That's it. Last add of brand new PvE content was 1.4! I even can't emember when exactly it happened. I guess, almost 1 year ago!

Rinmaethodain · June 2015

I hope this will be used in this way. New content is always good.

The Uninvited · June 2015

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

They need to put a HUGE nerf horizontally across the board and limit all damage done to 25% of what it is now.

I think they shouldn't nerf damage but instead buff health of mobs and bosses in zones like Craglorn to make it a challenge again, like it was before.

The Uninvited · June 2015

By the way, I think DSA and Sanctum are fine as it is. AA and Hel Ra are a bit of a cakewalk and the normal quests are just too easy. I had a tougher time in Cadwell's Gold final zone than I did in Craglorn.

Flameheart · June 2015

Do this on DSA veteran please and I am actually impressed.

To all the bored people out there...get a life and do some work, I suggest 12 hours a day as a start as I do. Do it for yourself, for your country or anything else.

The same applies to any nerf cryers or people who spent more than 4 hours a day in this game, or might abuse their computer at work to read guides and post on forums.

I actually like this game because it does NOT have an insane difficulty level and actually makes healing fun again, because you aren't rubbing your nose on your display to monitor health bars, but you are actually able to play in 3rd person view at maxed out camera zoom and have a look at the wonderful instance design.

My guess is, that over 75% of the "it's too easy cryers" would utterly cry like a little child and rub tears from their face, if they would be confronted with some sort of game difficulty like the good old Sunwell Plateau from somewhat ancient WoW times or the good old Everquest difficulty lvl (lost your corpse and all the accumulated gear gathered in the last 4 years ? bad luck).

Nobody wants those times back again, with the exception of people who have too much time to live in a game.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · June 2015

Flameheart wrote: »

Do this on DSA veteran please and I am actually impressed.

Tbh I would like to see Vet Darkshade Cavern solo farming (end boss mainly), because the damn helmet is too rare, and with PUG you end up with many "wannabe" heroes dying.

(and yes can be keep the instance "solo", all you need is grp even a level 10 mate wandering around in PVE areas).

Furor · June 2015

I was able to identify all of the abilities you used except for the primary DW bar. What is your 4th ability?

Fecius · June 2015

The Uninvited wrote: »

By the way, I think DSA and Sanctum are fine as it is. AA and Hel Ra are a bit of a cakewalk and the normal quests are just too easy. I had a tougher time in Cadwell's Gold final zone than I did in Craglorn.

Video of HM SO in trollmode with tons of deaths and so on for 26 min without PvP buffs and 250 CP average per raid member. It's 60k points, it's 1st boss Zerg tactics, it's kill of last boss dies for 2 BigBang phases. And this is nothing of what you can see in ladder right now - 92k points (yeah, PvP buffs and CP and some ult gain passive bug and so on, but still). I even don't know, if it's 15 min? Current high end PvE content is old. It's just a fact not a cry.

And this raid remembers how it was in January, when it was killed 1st time by us. Wow... it's so different right now. Maybe now you will understand our frustration and the fact our wish of smth more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzqObGS5ShE

The Uninvited · June 2015

Fecius wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

By the way, I think DSA and Sanctum are fine as it is. AA and Hel Ra are a bit of a cakewalk and the normal quests are just too easy. I had a tougher time in Cadwell's Gold final zone than I did in Craglorn.

Video of HM SO in trollmode with tons of deaths and so on for 26 min without PvP buffs and 250 CP average per raid member. It's 60k points, it's 1st boss Zerg tactics, it's kill of last boss dies for 2 BigBang phases. And this is nothing of what you can see in ladder right now - 92k points (yeah, PvP buffs and CP and some ult gain passive bug and so on, but still). I even don't know, if it's 15 min? Current high end PvE content is old. It's just a fact not a cry.

And this raid remembers how it was in January, when it was killed 1st time by us. Wow... it's so different right now. Maybe now you will understand our frustration and the fact our wish of smth more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzqObGS5ShE

You are forgetting the fact that not everybody is at your skill level. Combine this with the fact that there are new players coming in to the game even now (EU server) for whom it might not be that easy.

Don't get me wrong, I am totally for new veteran dungeons, new trials and new content. We certainly need it and unfortunately a lot of my friends left, because they completed everything and got bored waiting for it.

I know that if you understand the mechanics of certain bosses you will know what to do the next time you go there and it will get easier every time. But saying SO is easy for people who experience it for the first time is just not true.

aco5712 · June 2015

Nicely done. Beat me too it :P