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Vampire/Werewolf bite on the crown store?
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Wyldman✭✭Well, I recently became a Werewolf on my Lvl 32 Sorcerer and yes, I know being a Werewolf is not advisable for Sorcerers ... didn't find it difficult to get a bite at all. Went to where the walk-through maps said they spawn and within 5-8 minutes found myself battling a Werewolf (within 45 seconds of initiating solo combat other players seemed to come out of the woodwork ALL trying to get bitten also), I got "scratched" and became infected. Went to the nearest town, was approached by the NPC that triggers Hircine's quest and "viola", became a Werewolf. However, I experimented with the new skill-line for a bit and could not get to a priest and get it cured fast enough, I found it to be a useless skill. I suppose it is awesome for kids or others who just want to run around screaming "Hey, LOOK at ME, LOOK at ME, LOOK at ME ... I'm a Werewolf/Vampire" but other than that, I actually find it to be a hindrance and a pitfall/hazard in the game that should be avoided.0 -
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✭dabulls7491 wrote: »NO. This will just open the door for more and more things to appear on the crown store. Either earn the gold and pay, camp spawn, or wait for hoopla to die down.
If people don't understand this ^^^^
There's no help for them. Slippery slope.Edited by coryevans_3b14_ESO on July 1, 2015 2:06AM0 -
Fruitmass✭✭✭✭skoomaking916 wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Seems like another good item for the store. Would solve the griefing that goes on in game surrounding the mobs. Convenience item as its pretty easy at least on PC now to get a bite. Consoles will be similar in a couple months. Seems like a no brainer to me.
absolutely NOT. the best idea and best way to put a stop to this BS would be to just make it a quest you can pick up at. period.
Either that or they could make them unkillable like the city guards.Beware all ye who log on for here there be typos...0 -
FlounderOG✭✭✭Just make an added beginning step to hircines gift, where you meet that random guy that walks you to hircines statue, he then takes you to one of many places on the map that has werewolves, and you get infected there.
It's pretty funny when Im "Going to where werewolves spawn" as I run through an entire swamp full of them, and then past a boss fight where 3 npcs turn into werewolves.
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BlueViolet✭✭✭✭✭coryevans_3b14_ESO wrote: »dabulls7491 wrote: »NO. This will just open the door for more and more things to appear on the crown store. Either earn the gold and pay, camp spawn, or wait for hoopla to die down.
If people don't understand this ^^^^
There's no help for them. Slippery slope.
I agree.
Absolutely not.
I wish people would stop trying to turn this game into some kind of convenience store.
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OzJohnD✭✭✭✭If major game changers can be purchased with money - I'm out of here ... and I wont be the only one. Don't mind cosmetics but not gaming buffers.
The purchase of mounts was treading a fine line.
Everyone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.
Francis Ford Coppola - BS Dracula: The Film and the Legend1 -
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I can tell a LOT of people in this thread want to keep making bank off new people. Only reason you could possibly be against this is if you like taking lots of money for bites. Otherwise it doesnt affect you at all. This is why its needed so that people stop camping the spawns killing the mobs so they can charge ridiculous amounts of gold.1 -
OzJohnD✭✭✭✭just fyi ... my werewolf bites a random at the shrine weekly, no cost
petty accusations that only those profiteering are against Crown Store character buffs is inappropriateEveryone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.
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BlueViolet✭✭✭✭✭just fyi ... my werewolf bites a random at the shrine weekly, no cost
petty accusations that only those profiteering are against Crown Store character buffs is inappropriatejamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I can tell a LOT of people in this thread want to keep making bank off new people. Only reason you could possibly be against this is if you like taking lots of money for bites. Otherwise it doesnt affect you at all. This is why its needed so that people stop camping the spawns killing the mobs so they can charge ridiculous amounts of gold.
I also give out free bites, so your argument has no real basis OP. It's apparently just pure impatience.
Interestingly enough, I find a lot of people who screech on the forums about putting convenience items into the Crown Store, especially the "it saves time" or "I don't have time to hang about waiting for "X" to happen" arguments, mysteriously find time to grind one or more characters to V14.
Things like skill lines shouldn't ever be put into the crown store. As I remarked in another thread, where does it end once you do that? Max level characters for purchase? Super +35 swords? Crown store only traits?
No thanks.
I'd much rather it stay cosmetic only.
Edited by BlueViolet on July 1, 2015 4:55AMEU / NA / PC2 -
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✭✭✭If you give out bites for free what possible harm could it do to offer them in the store. The store isnt cosmetic only now so that argument is flawed. Saying that by selling the infection is the same as selling max level characters is simply ludicrous. Thats like people who say selling the XP scrolls is selling XP. You still have to earn the xp just like you have to earn the skill line points for whatever infection.
I somehow doubt the bites you give out are free.0 -
OzJohnD✭✭✭✭V14 for 750,000 Crowns ?Everyone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.
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BlueViolet✭✭✭✭✭If you can't see the harm it does by putting skill lines in the store then you're clearly a lost cause, and trying to point out any sensible reasoning is pointless - it wont make it past those blinders you're clearly wearing.
And you can doubt whatever you like, what you believe or don't believe is irrelevant to me.EU / NA / PC1 -
Korozenn✭✭✭✭The Crown Store goods that aren't cosmetic should be there to do nothing but make the game more convenient for you. Doing this would be like the same issue with making players buy new character slots other than just allowing people to have more characters freely for a game they already bought where having multiple characters does put you at an advantage (10-12 Characters instead of 8, for instance). People would argue that it is "paygate" content as you are either paying Gold for a bite or Crowns for a bite when getting a bite shouldn't be as hard as it is made to be due to griefing (that is...if griefing still exists to the same regard it did when I played previously). People would do that the same way they would argue about the advantage of buying multiple characters for multiple purposes that put them at an advantage over others as well.
So, I dunno really. It's rocky ground.
I just think that this is an issue with design choice, not the lack of an item that makes something like this more convenient for you. It really shouldn't be as hard as it was to both hunt down and wait for a Werewolf or Vampire to bite you. That being said, it has sort of created its own market niche, so I think ZeniMax just doesn't want to mess with it too much or find a way to meet everyone at a compromise.Edited by Korozenn on July 1, 2015 5:18AM0 -
Garethjolnir✭✭✭✭Might as well throw everything on the CS then, P2W.Viele grüße aus Germany. Neu Heimat.0 -
OzJohnD✭✭✭✭All character slots pre-loaded with V14s for 7 million Crowns ?Everyone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.
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AuldWolf✭✭✭✭✭I definitely think it should be a Crown Store item because I feel bad for the other factions.
On the Ebonheart Pact and the Daggerfall Covenant, there's a capitalistic vibe to the bites. A lot of people want to sell them. It's why my beau and I gave up on those factions. There's something about the Aldmeri Dominion that attracts older and wiser players. On the AD, there's almost a Socialist attitude toward werewolf bites -- they're easy to obtain and there's no shaming for asking for one for free if you're a low-level, new character. In fact, I see people regularly hanging out at the shrine on the AD, which is something I don't see on the EP or DC.
If you absolutely refuse to give up your faction, though, you have two choices.
1.) Go insane trying to get the spawn, which will probably never happen because you have more capitalist players killing them to corner the market on bites, so they can sell them;
2.) Pay for a bite, because you're unlikely to get one for free.
The AD may not be the biggest faction, but it's definitely the friendliest (highest number of roleplayers, too), and that's what keeps me coming back there. I remember the person who was hanging out there that bit my first character, they did it for free without even asking for money (that wasn't a consideration), then they took me to a place which would work well for grinding up the werewolf ability so that I could give my beau a bite, and anyone else who wanted one later.
The Aldmeri Dominion has socialised and subsidised werewolf bites! Queen Ayrenn wouldn't have it any other way, we all know this. And while I'm being slightly facetious, at the same time I'm mostly not because that's actually how things are. If the console version of the AD hasn't gotten that far, yet, just give it time. It will. The constant left wing, progressive ideals which make up the storylines of the faction will draw in the sorts of people who'll socialise werewolf bites.:P
Again, though, it stinks if you're not on the AD. So I hope they do add bites to the Crown Store.Edited by AuldWolf on July 1, 2015 6:57AM0 -
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Wally, not all the vampires/werewolfs are the same, in our world werewolfs transform by full moon. But in Nirn they transform when they want to. Vampires are weaker in Nirn but maybe are the people so dumb that they can't see the difference between man and vampire.Character: Skjorff Chilheart the WolflikeTankyswankyhulk, BLOOD FOR THE PACT
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SgtBattleaxeSoul ShrivenGriefing is not an issue anymore? Lol It is very much still an issue - a big issue! I wish they would do something about it. Putting "bites" on the crown store is a pretty good idea. At least people are guaranteed to get their bite, without getting scammed. That would put a big dent in the scammers plans. That, along with allowing other werewolves/vampires to infect us, would help with the griefing. Makes no sense that only certain npcs can infect people. What's wrong with the others? At any rate, they need to do SOMETHING about it!0 -
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✭I got my ww bite free the third time I visited the shrine from a pack leader I never knew after I bowed to her (not sure if that cinched it)!? I now do the same - and give out free bites when able. I have never asked for anything in return... ever. True story. Free bites do happen. I have however gotton abuse from other ww 'touting' at the shrine - for giving bites free!!!0 -
BennyButton✭✭✭✭I came into this thread to read about some nice and awesome ideas for making bites more available, and instead I was met with ageist remarks and ridiculous opinions.There is nothing wrong with Vampire or Werewolf, the problem is solely on the player side.
Player A(instant gratification generation) "OMGzzz I can't be a sparkly vampire like Edward... 5 minutes after I created a character..this game SuxoRzz!
Player B(instant gratification generation) "OMGzzz I can't be an Alpha werewolf like Jacob... 5 minutes after I created a character..this game SuxoRzz!
Honestly it is starting to get old. Go buy one, find a friend to give you one or keep working to get it, it really is not that hard.
The only thing getting old is you. (Seriously, are you reading your posts before you press "Post reply"?)I suppose it is awesome for kids or others who just want to run around screaming "Hey, LOOK at ME, LOOK at ME, LOOK at ME ... I'm a Werewolf/Vampire" but other than that, I actually find it to be a hindrance and a pitfall/hazard in the game that should be avoided.
You're not as bad as that Skwor person since you mentioned "others" but I'm still going to include you in my post because you made it out to be mostly a "kid" thing. Coming from someone who makes use the werewolf skills fairly often and does not consider himself a "kid," I think being a werewolf is extremely helpful for lower levels in general. It's tactically useful as well, given some of the skills you can unlock (healing, etc). Anyone who finds it to be a hindrance must not have a build that compliments the werewolf skills.
You know what else is extremely helpful for lower levels? The XP scrolls that are currently sold in the crown store.
If you have issues with playing a game with younger generations, find another hobby or stop pointing fingers, thanks!
I personally believe that if Zenimax refuses to make a questline for a bite, they should put it on the crown store, since it does not give anyone an unfair advantage.
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