ESO is a nice single player game but not so good MMO

Zireael

Hi,
I've decided to share my thoughts on ESO after playing it for awhile and recently trying it out with friends.

Firstly, I like the game, that's why I recommended it to my friends and wanted to play with them.
But it is not straightforward and experience is not something I'd expect from a MMO game.

The problems you need to sort out are as follows:
1) All players need to create character in the same faction to be able to play together
Yes, there is explorer pack, but look at it this way. I've just convinced my friend to play this game with me. He goes on about creating character. Then he is he can't create Orc Wizard female, because that race is not available in my faction. So he is told, just after dumping £50 on the game that he needs to PAY again £10 to unlock races in all factions and PAY again £20 if he wants to play Imperial. No matter how great your game is, my friends won't give it a chance past the character creation screen if you do cashgrab d*ck moves like this. Especially since race choice matters AND it is not possible to change race later AND you can't teleport to a friend in different faction. Reconsider what first impressions you want to give to people starting to play your game.

2) We need to be same level to play together - there is no player level sync in dungeons
I want to play some dungeons with my friend. I'm lv46, he's lv10. I do not want to power level his dungeon runs one-shotting everything in sight, I want to play TOGETHER with him. Sync my stats, skills and weapon/armor values to match the group leader's level. I don't care if I won't be getting xp and loot, but I care for the experience to be fun and challenging for both me and my friend(s). You could tell me to create another character of course, but I already have character, class and race I like to play, why should I be forced to make another? Also, I'm not going to create a new character every time my friend starts to play, or if I meet someone cool and want to play together. That's insane.
Add player level scaling for dungeons. Hell, if you feel generous, make it so that groups can scale their level even in open world.

3) No race change, no appearance change
If races were just aesthetics and looks, I wouldn't mind. But since racial passives actually matter and you might end up regretting your choice later. When you realise that actually everyone does magicka route unless you want to be really special and try hard and your Orc/Argonian/whatever has nothing cool compared to Breton/Imperial/Redguard/whatever you feel disappointed. I don't think anyone wants to feel bad about making a character choice they end up regretting. I don't play games to feel disappointment and regret. What about you?
I've read you even went as far as changing some racial passives without letting everyone to respec. Not a cool move.

4) Dungeon Finder is a joke
a) So I can queue for a single dungeon or All dungeons. That's lacking. Why there are no tick boxes to let me choose which exactly dungeons I want to do? For daily I just need to select specific dungeon, I give you that. But what if there are 3 dungeons in my level range and I prefer to play 2 of them, but not the third because I don't like it? Or maybe there are few dungeons across all levels from which I need clear to get my skill point? There is no indication how long will my queue be, what roles are saturated and what roles need filling.
b) Shouting for people when you want to make a group for specific thing is old school. I suggest you guys check out Final Fantasy XIV and their Duty Finder (dungeon finder, you can pick exactly the dungeons you want, you see level range, possible rewards etc) and Party Finder(bulletin board) You can advertise if you're selling something, you can advertise if you're buying something, if you're making farm group for a dungeon, for PvP, for quest, if you're looking for guild/offering guild. All across server and without spamming everyone's chat window. If you're making a dungeon party, you can specify what roles you want, your minimum level and item level
Dungeon finder, auction house and bulletin board can be made better.





5) Friends from different factions can't play the game together from start
Just because someone likes volcano decor and someone likes forests shouldn't mean they can't meet and play together from start when both are online.

6) Your auction house model sucks
I get it, you wanted to be innovative, support guild competition and give guilds some means to gain prestige in PvE and maybe provide some gold sinks. You've probably succeeded in making the market more granular, fluid and to give opportunities for good profit from speculation. But for a normal player starting the game buying and selling sucks. You have to run around checking a bunch of NPCs for item you want. If you're lucky there are 5 guild store NPCs in your current zone. If it is some backwater zone, there's 0-2 guild store NPC, they have hardly any stock, so you have to teleport around the continent, checking a dozen of NPCs in every zone without even knowing if you'll even find item you want. And then you have to join guilds you don't care about just to sell stuff.

Congratulations on making a system that lets people in good trading guild make more money, but FINDING merchandise is horrible experience. If someone doesn't have addons installed with extra filters, it's even more unbearable.
When you want to buy a pair of your favourite shoes, do you go out in New York and walk from shop to shop all day asking if they have your brand? Or do you go online, search who sells your stuff, for what price, who's closest to you, opening hours etc. Then you can go straight to that store instead of wasting your time sifting through garbage. Or, as many people do it these days, you shop online and get stuff delivered to you.
I understand you wanted to do a different auction house system, and I can tell you it is amusing for about five first minutes. For the remainder of the hours I play your game I keep wondering if you know what you're doing and why you try to shove this system down my throat, when it isn't good.

7) Lack of gamepad support on PC.
I hope you at least realise it needs to be done. Soon.

So again, awesome single player game, but if you want to play with friends, it is lacking.

To end, things I like: your quests are actually interesting and fun, voiceovers everywhere, exploration feels rewarding, freedom to play any class any way you want. Good graphics (altho it's a bit hard to make a cute character, most of the time you end up with something that looks permanently hangover, undead or in bad mood). Addons. Vampires and werewolves (werewolf is actually bad, you take it for passives and never transform tho)

Looking forward to where you take this game, I think it has a lot of potential. I hope you'll be able to capitalise on that.

Skiserony

If you're lvl 46 you're far from telling it's a bad MMO, it actually depends on endgame. Once you both hit the veteran ranks, things are going to change for the better for you guys.

Frenkthevile

Lvl 46...you did not even scratched the surface.

ItsRejectz

Funny how a lvl 46 player can say it's not a good MMO, when obviously they have not yet experienced most of the game lol.

SHADOW2KK

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Funny how a lvl 46 player can say it's not a good MMO, when obviously they have not yet experienced most of the game lol.

Exactly what I was thinking hehe.

sadownik

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Funny how a lvl 46 player can say it's not a good MMO, when obviously they have not yet experienced most of the game lol.

Really? i would say lvl 46 experienced almost all of the game. Its all the same. What changes so dramatically later? Trials? Arena? Thats it.

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SHADOW2KK

sadownik wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Funny how a lvl 46 player can say it's not a good MMO, when obviously they have not yet experienced most of the game lol.

Really? i would say lvl 46 experienced almost all of the game. Its all the same. What changes so dramatically later? Trials? Arena? Thats it.

Nope, still tons of content even if you do not go to Crag or PvP, so its not a case of that`s it

Cadwells Silver/Gold for example, and the other PvE stuff.

Obviously up to the player on how he/she plays, some may be hardcore RPers or completionists or what have you, butthere is always something to do.

You get out what you put in.

Genomic

What are you people talking about? Lvls 1-50 is the best part of the game. Downhill fast once you hit vet levels, and I know I'm far from the only person who feels that way (also: Craglorn? Really? That's your example of a "better experience"?).

VSeconds

I like how everyone says he didn't fully experienced the game, while almost all failed to explain what he did not experience... can you guys elaborate?

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SHADOW2KK

Genomic wrote: »

What are you people talking about? Lvls 1-50 is the best part of the game. Downhill fast once you hit vet levels, and I know I'm far from the only person who feels that way (also: Craglorn? Really? That's your example of a "better experience"?).

What people find as the best part of the game is entirely personal, some may enjoy 1-50 and potter about doing their own thing and never go near Crag or PvP or w/e, that is up to them.

There are people in all camps on this game.

Genomic

Vet levels are an awful grind and I guarantee once the new console players begin to reach it there'll be a mass exodus, just like what happened with PC (but worse, I think. consolers will be less likely to put up with the enforced tedium.)

SHADOW2KK

WildBreak wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

If you're lvl 46 you're far from telling it's a bad MMO, it actually depends on endgame. Once you both hit the veteran ranks, things are going to change for the better for you guys.

For u guys that have gotten to level 46 why? It's not fun to play , takes up to much time when u can be spending if with family friends or even getting outdoors once and awhile or maybe take even take your dog for a walk will do u good :P

Lol do you troll wherever you go?, just cos on other posts you say you cannot play the game, and it is terrible blah blah blah, when it is just a lack of patience, not the game.

The game is fun to play, but then, you would not know, as you have not properly played yet have ya?

And most people on the game do have lives, and work our social lives round this game.

VSeconds

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

WildBreak wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

If you're lvl 46 you're far from telling it's a bad MMO, it actually depends on endgame. Once you both hit the veteran ranks, things are going to change for the better for you guys.

For u guys that have gotten to level 46 why? It's not fun to play , takes up to much time when u can be spending if with family friends or even getting outdoors once and awhile or maybe take even take your dog for a walk will do u good :P

Lol do you troll wherever you go?, just cos on other posts you say you cannot play the game, and it is terrible blah blah blah, when it is just a lack of patience, not the game.

The game is fun to play, but then, you would not know, as you have not properly played yet have ya?

And most people on the game do have lives, and work our social lives round this game.

Shhhhhhh some can't comperhend that you can mix both

NotSo

If you want your friends to play games with you, go the extra mile and join the faction his character is locked into

sadownik

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

sadownik wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Funny how a lvl 46 player can say it's not a good MMO, when obviously they have not yet experienced most of the game lol.

Really? i would say lvl 46 experienced almost all of the game. Its all the same. What changes so dramatically later? Trials? Arena? Thats it.

Nope, still tons of content even if you do not go to Crag or PvP, so its not a case of that`s it

Cadwells Silver/Gold for example, and the other PvE stuff.

Obviously up to the player on how he/she plays, some may be hardcore RPers or completionists or what have you, butthere is always something to do.

You get out what you put in.

"content" yeah the same boring quests you did, the same mobs just with higher hp and dmg. If not for pvp i would be out of this game complitely long time ago.

Tandor

Most of the features the OP calls for are things that developers tend to add to MMOs some time after launch - appearance changes, improved dungeon finder, mentoring etc. They'll come I'm sure. The race restrictions are simply the product of marketing with pre-orders and different box versions at launch plus the business model today, as well as the desire to add some distinctiveness to the different alliances.

It sounds like the main problem the OP has is his unwillingness to create another character that can play alongside his friend's character. There are few games where a level 46 character is going to be able to run with a level 10 character, and those that do exist probably didn't launch that way. It's the first time I've come across someone wanting to play with a friend who is unwilling to create a character with which to do so. It doesn't sound to me like a problem with the game.

The faction mixing is a separate issue altogether. Because of the ES IP and lore, the factions actually mean something in this MMO with the alliance story-lines all based around them. It would be wrong to allow them to play together just on that ground alone, but in addition it would totally wreck the whole concept of the veteran content.

Peekachu99

I'm VR 14 and play on PC and PS4 and I agree with everything the OP said. What is he really missing? Vet dungeons (for which queuing and grouping sucks as per all of his impressions)? Trials that offer even worse itemization options? Lag in Cyrodil? I log in to do daily crafting missions, for which the rewards are garbage so idk why even, and that's about it. The economy is a mess. Having to check upwards of a dozen different vendors with no workable shortcuts if you're not using addons (or on console) is so bad you have to wonder if the devs ever actually played their own game.

There's no shame in copying things that work. Like a lot of the stuff from FFXIV, which was just ideas from other MMORPGs further refined.

Psychobunni

@Zireael Welcome to ESO. I'm not going to trash you for your level because I've been here since pre-beta beta, have multiple v14s and I agree with most of your points and have argued some version of them over the last year+.

ESO is a fantastic single player game that you can talk to guildies while playing. Dungeons, once done for the skill point are really needless to do as there is no gear progression, the few good pieces are RNG (luck based), and unnecessary to complete anything in the game. So.....unless ZOS has done a 180 on coming content, passing 50 is just going to make you more aggravated with the game.

It's a fun game, definitely beautiful, but I agree more suited to solo than MMO despite what it professes to be.

Peekachu99

Tandor wrote: »

Most of the features the OP calls for are things that developers tend to add to MMOs some time after launch - appearance changes, improved dungeon finder, mentoring etc. They'll come I'm sure. The race restrictions are simply the product of marketing with pre-orders and different box versions at launch plus the business model today, as well as the desire to add some distinctiveness to the different alliances.

It sounds like the main problem the OP has is his unwillingness to create another character that can play alongside his friend's character. There are few games where a level 46 character is going to be able to run with a level 10 character, and those that do exist probably didn't launch that way. It's the first time I've come across someone wanting to play with a friend who is unwilling to create a character with which to do so. It doesn't sound to me like a problem with the game.

The faction mixing is a separate issue altogether. Because of the ES IP and lore, the factions actually mean something in this MMO with the alliance story-lines all based around them. It would be wrong to allow them to play together just on that ground alone, but in addition it would totally wreck the whole concept of the veteran content.

Game has been out for over a year. Not having a workable economy or a functional set of grouping tools is inexcusable. I mean, really, that's MMORPG basic stuff.

newtinmpls

NotSo wrote: »

If you want your friends to play games with you, go the extra mile and join the faction his character is locked into

And sometimes it's a lot of work.

My husband who is a die-hard RPer in the normal course of things just spent a week power-leveling a character to 40th so that he and I can game with another couple. Yes it was work, but it was caring worthwhile work.

As for people who are being disrespectful to the OP because he hasn't hit this or that arbitrary level or experience - his experience of this game is just as valid as yours. There is no point in just posting and being rude.

As for the original complaint that races were limited to factions - I thought that this was pretty clear in the game advertising; and that being said, I didn't 'get it' at first either. I'm glad that any race/any faction is in the crown store. I just wish the scuttler was there too.

All that being said if you don't have close friends who are willing to work with you (and in some cases NOT level a particular character past what you can maintain) then I think it's really difficult to do ESO as an MMORPG.

BigM

One in every MMO I have played. It was so much better in the old days from UO to EQ to AC..... people played the game they got and loved it.

If you want the game you posted then go get the money and make it. End of story!

GaldorP

I think the OP has made some excellent points even if he or she is just lv 46 so far and hasn't seen everything in the game yet

I especially like the example of a good, complex group search tool (from another game). ESO needs this even more than other MMOGs because of the megaserver technology that only lets you talk to a very limited number of people in zone chat (those that are in the same instance of the zone you're currently in).

The thing about the auction house model is true as well. When I'm looking for a rare item like a rare provisioning recipe or PvP set item, I need to travel to 22 different zones, to around 30 different wayshrines to check if any guild trader has what I'm looking for. And in the end, I might still not find it and will have wasted 30 minutes of loading screens and guild trader browsing for nothing (without the help of the Addon AwesomeGuildstore on the PC I couldn't do it).

I've also never understood why the player-base is split in 3 for PvE (if no PvP can happen in these zones), and why we can't at least group up with players from other factions for group dungeons and Adventure zones (Craglorn).

Psychobunni

GaldorP wrote: »

I've also never understood why the player-base is split in 3 for PvE (if no PvP can happen in these zones), and why we can't at least group up with players from other factions for group dungeons and Adventure zones (Craglorn).

Yes, that one is a big one. The game would be 100x better if you chose a faction for PVP without it having anything to do with where you started in PVE.

So many more grouping opportunities would be available, and making alts wouldn't be so damn boring forcing you to start in the same faction over and over if you happen to have found a guild you enjoyed playing with.

Pecivilis

Zireael wrote: »

Hi,
I've decided to share my thoughts on ESO after playing it for awhile and recently trying it out with friends.
-You're level 46...you haven't "been playing it for awhile" ...

The problems you need to sort out are as follows:

1) All players need to create character in the same faction to be able to play together

-Yes, and it should stay this way as it fits with the lore and the PvP model. Same with saw...WoW, WildStar, EQ, etc etc. Unfortunately I do not believe a model like NeverWinter would work here, which makes every one on the same from the start and at a certain level you get to join one of the two "Guilds" for PvP purposes.
Also if ZoS went that route the RPers would have a coronary.


2) We need to be same level to play together - there is no player level sync in dungeons

-Well gee...once again welcome to MMOs dear. Honestly, I understand your sentiment here..however I have to disagree with you on wanting that type of syncing. If that is what you want...level another toon with him...it's a time old tradition of MMOs...and normally the only reason I end up with an Alt...
Also your level difference may seem like a lot...but let me tell ya...it's really not. He should be able to catch up nice and quic...

Also...Even at level 46 you will not be one shotting anything in the actual dungeons..in the wild...sure until he gets to the next zone.


3) No race change, no appearance change
-This one I do agree with and so does the community as a whole.

4) Dungeon Finder is a joke
-This is what zone and or guild chats are for.


5) Friends from different factions can't play the game together from start
-Yes you can..are you Dagger Fall? if so good....get your friends from the other factions and meet up in Cryodiil...where you will proceed to kill the dirty *** for being the wrong god damn color.

6) Your auction house model sucks
-Wrong. It promotes guild unity and drive, and is a perfect show of capitalism. Also it is much more preferred than other models..at least for me.

7) Lack of gamepad support on PC.
....I use a Gamepad, it works perfectly fine. My guild leader uses a gamepad, his works perfectly fine...everyone I talk to that uses on has no problems...just saying.

Pecivilis

Zireael wrote: »

Hi,
I've decided to share my thoughts on ESO after playing it for awhile and recently trying it out with friends.

-You're level 46...you haven't "been playing it for awhile" ...



1) All players need to create character in the same faction to be able to play together

-Yes, and it should stay this way as it fits with the lore and the PvP model. Same with saw...WoW, WildStar, EQ, etc etc. Unfortunately I do not believe a model like NeverWinter would work here, which makes every one on the same from the start and at a certain level you get to join one of the two "Guilds" for PvP purposes.
Also if ZoS went that route the RPers would have a coronary.


2) We need to be same level to play together - there is no player level sync in dungeons

-Well gee...once again welcome to MMOs dear. Honestly, I understand your sentiment here..however I have to disagree with you on wanting that type of syncing. If that is what you want...level another toon with him...it's a time old tradition of MMOs...and normally the only reason I end up with an Alt...
Also your level difference may seem like a lot...but let me tell ya...it's really not. He should be able to catch up nice and quic...

Also...Even at level 46 you will not be one shotting anything in the actual dungeons..in the wild...sure until he gets to the next zone.


3) No race change, no appearance change
-This one I do agree with and so does the community as a whole.

4) Dungeon Finder is a joke
-This is what zone and or guild chats are for.


5) Friends from different factions can't play the game together from start
-Yes you can..are you Dagger Fall? if so good....get your friends from the other factions and meet up in Cryodiil...where you will proceed to kill the dirty *** for being the wrong god damn color.

6) Your auction house model sucks
-Wrong. It promotes guild unity and drive, and is a perfect show of capitalism. Also it is much more preferred than other models..at least for me.

7) Lack of gamepad support on PC.
....I use a Gamepad, it works perfectly fine. My guild leader uses a gamepad, his works perfectly fine...everyone I talk to that uses on has no problems...just saying.

Kalifas

Zireael wrote: »

Hi,
I've decided to share my thoughts on ESO after playing it for awhile and recently trying it out with friends.

Firstly, I like the game, that's why I recommended it to my friends and wanted to play with them.
But it is not straightforward and experience is not something I'd expect from a MMO game.

The problems you need to sort out are as follows:
1) All players need to create character in the same faction to be able to play together
Yes, there is explorer pack, but look at it this way. I've just convinced my friend to play this game with me. He goes on about creating character. Then he is he can't create Orc Wizard female, because that race is not available in my faction. So he is told, just after dumping £50 on the game that he needs to PAY again £10 to unlock races in all factions and PAY again £20 if he wants to play Imperial. No matter how great your game is, my friends won't give it a chance past the character creation screen if you do cashgrab d*ck moves like this. Especially since race choice matters AND it is not possible to change race later AND you can't teleport to a friend in different faction. Reconsider what first impressions you want to give to people starting to play your game.

The game was like that before they went B2P. I agree that I should be able to play with whoever I want regardless of faction. The faction segregation should only apply to PvP. Realize the game is B2P though. You are not going to get new races or classes for free. Those will and should be available through expansions in my opinion. But I guess the second option would be small specific dlc.

Zireael wrote: »

2) We need to be same level to play together - there is no player level sync in dungeons
I want to play some dungeons with my friend. I'm lv46, he's lv10. I do not want to power level his dungeon runs one-shotting everything in sight, I want to play TOGETHER with him. Sync my stats, skills and weapon/armor values to match the group leader's level. I don't care if I won't be getting xp and loot, but I care for the experience to be fun and challenging for both me and my friend(s). You could tell me to create another character of course, but I already have character, class and race I like to play, why should I be forced to make another? Also, I'm not going to create a new character every time my friend starts to play, or if I meet someone cool and want to play together. That's insane.
Add player level scaling for dungeons. Hell, if you feel generous, make it so that groups can scale their level even in open world.

We do need to be able to play together. That seems like alot of work to that versus releasing more content and they would have trouble figuring out what stats or skills/morphed skills you require. Perhaps they could sync the levels upon entry and then you get a temporary set of gear for that level. Then they temporarily reset your skills/stats for you to configure.

Zireael wrote: »

4) Dungeon Finder is a joke
a) So I can queue for a single dungeon or All dungeons. That's lacking. Why there are no tick boxes to let me choose which exactly dungeons I want to do? For daily I just need to select specific dungeon, I give you that. But what if there are 3 dungeons in my level range and I prefer to play 2 of them, but not the third because I don't like it? Or maybe there are few dungeons across all levels from which I need clear to get my skill point? There is no indication how long will my queue be, what roles are saturated and what roles need filling.
b) Shouting for people when you want to make a group for specific thing is old school. I suggest you guys check out Final Fantasy XIV and their Duty Finder (dungeon finder, you can pick exactly the dungeons you want, you see level range, possible rewards etc) and Party Finder(bulletin board) You can advertise if you're selling something, you can advertise if you're buying something, if you're making farm group for a dungeon, for PvP, for quest, if you're looking for guild/offering guild. All across server and without spamming everyone's chat window. If you're making a dungeon party, you can specify what roles you want, your minimum level and item level
Dungeon finder, auction house and bulletin board can be made better.

Agree with everything here.

Zireael wrote: »

6) Your auction house model sucks
I get it, you wanted to be innovative, support guild competition and give guilds some means to gain prestige in PvE and maybe provide some gold sinks. You've probably succeeded in making the market more granular, fluid and to give opportunities for good profit from speculation. But for a normal player starting the game buying and selling sucks. You have to run around checking a bunch of NPCs for item you want. If you're lucky there are 5 guild store NPCs in your current zone. If it is some backwater zone, there's 0-2 guild store NPC, they have hardly any stock, so you have to teleport around the continent, checking a dozen of NPCs in every zone without even knowing if you'll even find item you want. And then you have to join guilds you don't care about just to sell stuff.

Congratulations on making a system that lets people in good trading guild make more money, but FINDING merchandise is horrible experience. If someone doesn't have addons installed with extra filters, it's even more unbearable.
When you want to buy a pair of your favourite shoes, do you go out in New York and walk from shop to shop all day asking if they have your brand? Or do you go online, search who sells your stuff, for what price, who's closest to you, opening hours etc. Then you can go straight to that store instead of wasting your time sifting through garbage. Or, as many people do it these days, you shop online and get stuff delivered to you.
I understand you wanted to do a different auction house system, and I can tell you it is amusing for about five first minutes. For the remainder of the hours I play your game I keep wondering if you know what you're doing and why you try to shove this system down my throat, when it isn't good.

I don't care about any pros the current economy system grants. It adds tedium and excessive time consumption, therefore it sucks big balls.

Zireael wrote: »

7) Lack of gamepad support on PC.
I hope you at least realise it needs to be done. Soon.

So again, awesome single player game, but if you want to play with friends, it is lacking.

To end, things I like: your quests are actually interesting and fun, voiceovers everywhere, exploration feels rewarding, freedom to play any class any way you want. Good graphics (altho it's a bit hard to make a cute character, most of the time you end up with something that looks permanently hangover, undead or in bad mood). Addons. Vampires and werewolves (werewolf is actually bad, you take it for passives and never transform tho)

Looking forward to where you take this game, I think it has a lot of potential. I hope you'll be able to capitalise on that.

Yes please to controller support!
PC controller support wish

Frawr

You make some very good points. It goes to show that you do not need to be veteran rank to identify shortcomings in basic game design.

well done. Ignore the vacuous trolls who only comment on level.

I hope that they address some of these points.

Stalwart385

Leveling is best solo or two player. The first group content you get to is group dungeons along with the undaunted. The group dungeons start early so I'm sure you have done those. The undaunted starts at 45 I believe so look into that. You can also get small groups together for public dungeons. Next thing is Craglorn around VR9-10, which is all group content. Finally you hit endgame. That is when the real group content begins begins. You'll want to get back into the undaunted to get the gear sets (save your keys before you hit vr14). Try to get speed runs and no death if you feel like you've mastered the group dungeons. Vet Crypt of Hearts and vet City of Ash will take decent teams to get through, good teams to get the speed runs and no deaths. Next you get into DSA and Trials. They will take a while to get good at. Especially Sanctum. Next you go for vDSA and the Trial hard modes. Once you get good at them you want to start getting on the weekly leader boards to get really good gear, or the all time leader boards for good fun. There is also PvP from level 10 up. Don't forget about all the quests, delves and skyshards in cyrodil you'll want to get.

So yeah at 47 you haven't touched much of the group content in the game. All you know is leveling. Considering it only takes around a week or less to get 1-50 when you understand the game (and not by just grinding), waiting to VR levels for the real mmo content isn't too much to ask.

Solariken

I don't know why you guys are coming down on the OP for being level 46. His points are valid. I've been playing consistently since PC beta and freaking love this game, but I think that these points are solid:

Factions should only matter in Cyrodiil. Everywhere else your character should be able to roam free and quest and kill to your heart's content. You should be able to group cross-faction AT LEAST for dungeons. One caveat, the world quests that directly pertain to helping your faction on its quest for the Ruby Throne should not be available to you.

Dungeon finder sucks balls.

The guild trader system is a really cool concept, but ultimately sucks balls. I hate it mostly for the interface and NO F@#$ing text search function!, but also because it's a real pain to try to find a particular thing you want to buy.

The veteran rank system sucks balls.