Devs' Response to no Text Chat on Console Version

Moonshadow66

Xendyn wrote: »

This is what we call Zospeak. Let me offer a translation...

We couldn't do it/ran out of time to do it/didn't want to do it and don't have addon authors to do it for us, so we'll throw an answer out there that says nothing and hope it goes away.

I'm behind you guys on this because I know this game and I know how awkward it will make some aspects of it being restricted to voice only. Mainly tho, because in my time of gaming (I'm 54) I have known several awesome players that were deaf/hearing impaired. Restricting this game on console to voice only will pretty much make this a single player game for them, severely limiting their ability to do dungeons (particularly Vet ones), Cyrodiil, Trials and DSA all of which need Some form of ability to communicate and coordinate.

Nobody is asking to Replace voice here, just add another communication option.
Options and choices are a Good thing.

^This!
I've posted it in another thread just yesterday, that it's unbelievable that all the deaf people were not considered while the devs decided to not add text chat. That's a disaster!


What I also cannot understand that many players seem to be against adding text chat, is that selfishness or just stupidity? If text chat would be added, you don't have to use it, but leave it to the ones who NEED it!
I don't know what to say anymore.

BigM

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

This is what we call Zospeak. Let me offer a translation...

We couldn't do it/ran out of time to do it/didn't want to do it and don't have addon authors to do it for us, so we'll throw an answer out there that says nothing and hope it goes away.

I'm behind you guys on this because I know this game and I know how awkward it will make some aspects of it being restricted to voice only. Mainly tho, because in my time of gaming (I'm 54) I have known several awesome players that were deaf/hearing impaired. Restricting this game on console to voice only will pretty much make this a single player game for them, severely limiting their ability to do dungeons (particularly Vet ones), Cyrodiil, Trials and DSA all of which need Some form of ability to communicate and coordinate.

Nobody is asking to Replace voice here, just add another communication option.
Options and choices are a Good thing.

^This!
I've posted it in another thread just yesterday, that it's unbelievable that all the deaf people were not considered while the devs decided to not add text chat. That's a disaster!


What I also cannot understand that many players seem to be against adding text chat, is that selfishness or just stupidity? If text chat would be added, you don't have to use it, but leave it to the ones who NEED it!
I don't know what to say anymore.

Exactly good post!

BuggeX

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

This is what we call Zospeak. Let me offer a translation...

We couldn't do it/ran out of time to do it/didn't want to do it and don't have addon authors to do it for us, so we'll throw an answer out there that says nothing and hope it goes away.

I'm behind you guys on this because I know this game and I know how awkward it will make some aspects of it being restricted to voice only. Mainly tho, because in my time of gaming (I'm 54) I have known several awesome players that were deaf/hearing impaired. Restricting this game on console to voice only will pretty much make this a single player game for them, severely limiting their ability to do dungeons (particularly Vet ones), Cyrodiil, Trials and DSA all of which need Some form of ability to communicate and coordinate.

Nobody is asking to Replace voice here, just add another communication option.
Options and choices are a Good thing.

^This!
I've posted it in another thread just yesterday, that it's unbelievable that all the deaf people were not considered while the devs decided to not add text chat. That's a disaster!


What I also cannot understand that many players seem to be against adding text chat, is that selfishness or just stupidity? If text chat would be added, you don't have to use it, but leave it to the ones who NEED it!
I don't know what to say anymore.

You dont understand wath ppl are able to do.
You will be locked out of somthing if you dont use/do wath other are using/doing.
Making Textchat optional will split the playerbase into two Groups.

FTC has now the Option to log the dps from all Groupmembers, im still waiting until i see the first guild/raid witch want to force you to use it, else they dont want to Group up with you.

And this is just one Point, there are much others.

There is allways a pro and contra

Kaide

Xendyn wrote: »

Mainly tho, because in my time of gaming (I'm 54) I have known several awesome players that were deaf/hearing impaired. Restricting this game on console to voice only will pretty much make this a single player game for them, severely limiting their ability to do dungeons (particularly Vet ones), Cyrodiil, Trials and DSA all of which need Some form of ability to communicate and coordinate.

Nobody is asking to Replace voice here, just add another communication option.
Options and choices are a Good thing.

I hope a Dev reads this guys response...it is perfection

This is one of the few replies ever..that I put insightful/agree/awesome for

nastuug

These statements sound as if attempting to perceive the console players as straight up stupid. I mean, there's no other way to say it. Too cumbersome, font too small... A++ response, ZOS. lol

CommanderROR

I agree with the need for text chat. Voice chat is currently simply not working. And even if people actually had decent headsets and could use them properly, the mix of game sound, random background noise etc. makes this the worst possible option.

If the coice chat was stable (which it isn't) and everybody were using noise-cancelling, high-quality mikes (which they obviously are not) then it might actually be a nice addition, but it will always be inferior to text chat (is ZOS actually aware of the PS4s ability to use Bluetooth Keyboards???) and using it for "general chat and/or area chat will never work properly.

So, I'm hoping they get enough flak for this and implement it into the game for those who want and need it, else this MMORPG will be mostly a Solo experience!

Azrael008uk

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Isnt the Window for Text Chat adjustable? So this is a nonissue that youre trying to reason because of your annoyance with text chat...That those who want it should somehow ponder what you went through?

Heres a shocker special snowflake. The world doesnt revolve around you. And no one cares that youre annoyed with text.

Hey Korah

I thought the issue is that there isn't currently a text chat option.

That's what the whole thread is about. Some people want to have one there.

Also if you don't care for anyone else's opinion why should anyone care about yours?

Like I said above it has the potential to be a useful feature, but even in town where it would be most useful it has the potential to quickly descent into "Beg and Sell" but then isn't this already taken care of through Trade Guilds?

Alp2760

Played DCUO on ps3 and now ps4 since launch and the text chat is in no way cumbersome. It makes it much easier to connect to people, search for groups, trade and generally just chat when you can't be on mic.

FFARR also, no issues there and I played on ps3 as well as ps4. Never winter, no issue either. Out of respect for other people as I generally have things going on in the background, I tend to stick with text chat u less it's later and people aren't around, then mic is fine and in raids etc.

Text chat would 100% benefit the game, which is fantastic it does just mean I'm struggling to communicate with people so until a few friends pick up the game, I'm not doing anything in groups.

Thumbdunked

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

This is what we call Zospeak. Let me offer a translation...

We couldn't do it/ran out of time to do it/didn't want to do it and don't have addon authors to do it for us, so we'll throw an answer out there that says nothing and hope it goes away.

I'm behind you guys on this because I know this game and I know how awkward it will make some aspects of it being restricted to voice only. Mainly tho, because in my time of gaming (I'm 54) I have known several awesome players that were deaf/hearing impaired. Restricting this game on console to voice only will pretty much make this a single player game for them, severely limiting their ability to do dungeons (particularly Vet ones), Cyrodiil, Trials and DSA all of which need Some form of ability to communicate and coordinate.

Nobody is asking to Replace voice here, just add another communication option.
Options and choices are a Good thing.

^This!
I've posted it in another thread just yesterday, that it's unbelievable that all the deaf people were not considered while the devs decided to not add text chat. That's a disaster!


What I also cannot understand that many players seem to be against adding text chat, is that selfishness or just stupidity? If text chat would be added, you don't have to use it, but leave it to the ones who NEED it!
I don't know what to say anymore.

I didn't consider the impact this would have on hearing impaired players, idont think zenimax did either. I hope they reconsider their decision and add text chat asap.

Amiculi

nastuug wrote: »

These statements sound as if attempting to perceive the console players as straight up stupid. I mean, there's no other way to say it. Too cumbersome, font too small... A++ response, ZOS. lol

'tis baffling.

I used to be pretty full on PC Mustard Race but age is reducing my options and it's far easier to just play with a controller, seeing all of these previously PC only titles coming over to console is great, stoked for Planetside 2 later this month, the Beta was a blast.

But I realize I'm not representative of the average console user, though I've always put some solid time in on them.

Lately I see a lot of whiteknight type users on forums defending poor and outright anticonsumer behavior from companies, I can't tell if they're stupid, that blinded by unfounded loyalty or paid marketing shills.

Not to say they've been openly antisconsumer yet but the do skirt it, and this whole fiasco is incredibly shortsighted.

My personal theory is that it's actually the console manufacturers pushing for it so they can sell more headsets and try to make the cacophony of bodily functions and crude behavior a 'feature' in the future. Probably in regards to the VR headsets actually, I mean, everybody knows that console gamers are too stupid to touch type and they can't see the keyboard with an Oculus or Morpheus or whatever else on.

nastuug

Amiculi wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

These statements sound as if attempting to perceive the console players as straight up stupid. I mean, there's no other way to say it. Too cumbersome, font too small... A++ response, ZOS. lol

'tis baffling.

I used to be pretty full on PC Mustard Race but age is reducing my options and it's far easier to just play with a controller, seeing all of these previously PC only titles coming over to console is great, stoked for Planetside 2 later this month, the Beta was a blast.

But I realize I'm not representative of the average console user, though I've always put some solid time in on them.

Lately I see a lot of whiteknight type users on forums defending poor and outright anticonsumer behavior from companies, I can't tell if they're stupid, that blinded by unfounded loyalty or paid marketing shills.

Not to say they've been openly antisconsumer yet but the do skirt it, and this whole fiasco is incredibly shortsighted.

My personal theory is that it's actually the console manufacturers pushing for it so they can sell more headsets and try to make the cacophony of bodily functions and crude behavior a 'feature' in the future. Probably in regards to the VR headsets actually, I mean, everybody knows that console gamers are too stupid to touch type and they can't see the keyboard with an Oculus or Morpheus or whatever else on.

Boom! Nailed it. But didn't you hear? Corporations are people, too.

Dahkoht

If they did a login yes/no poll on console only , simple yes/no do you want text chat added to the console versions, one vote for only people who have the console version ,


They would overwhelmingly have it be yes. Every thread and poll here ,reddit , reviews forums etc have shown this.

DCUO , FFXIV , etc all have it working fine for years on the console.

They couldn't program it right , in time , and are making BS excuses blaming everything else.

PoseidonEvil

They've probably not seen warframe lol. Uses both text chat and voice. But I will say I use XB1 smart glass to type lol. I can text faster than when I use a keyboard

blackhat840

There is absolutely no reason this game does not have a text chat function. Every MMO I've played, including other console versions have a text chat along with their voice chat. We need this for a lot of reasons....oh I don't know...guild chat! Where is the guild communication, how are we supposed to set times of meet ups, or ask if anyone wants to go do some exploring? We cant.

Amiculi

Dahkoht wrote: »

If they did a login yes/no poll on console only , simple yes/no do you want text chat added to the console versions, one vote for only people who have the console version ,


They would overwhelmingly have it be yes. Every thread and poll here ,reddit , reviews forums etc have shown this.

DCUO , FFXIV , etc all have it working fine for years on the console.

They couldn't program it right , in time , and are making BS excuses blaming everything else.

Every forum I've seen that's held a poll has been overwhelmingly for the addition of text chat. I actually haven't seen one here weirdly, though I don't come around here much.

It's not like they had any legwork for it, it's not like text chat is some future technology that borders on mysticism, it's not like the PC version didn't have text chat already in place.

Kaide

Amiculi wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

If they did a login yes/no poll on console only , simple yes/no do you want text chat added to the console versions, one vote for only people who have the console version ,


They would overwhelmingly have it be yes. Every thread and poll here ,reddit , reviews forums etc have shown this.

DCUO , FFXIV , etc all have it working fine for years on the console.

They couldn't program it right , in time , and are making BS excuses blaming everything else.

Every forum I've seen that's held a poll has been overwhelmingly for the addition of text chat. I actually haven't seen one here weirdly, though I don't come around here much.

It's not like they had any legwork for it, it's not like text chat is some future technology that borders on mysticism, it's not like the PC version didn't have text chat already in place.

We don't need a text chat poll....because the answer is PAINFULLY obvious to everyone.....except ESO Devs

nastuug

Amiculi wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

If they did a login yes/no poll on console only , simple yes/no do you want text chat added to the console versions, one vote for only people who have the console version ,


They would overwhelmingly have it be yes. Every thread and poll here ,reddit , reviews forums etc have shown this.

DCUO , FFXIV , etc all have it working fine for years on the console.

They couldn't program it right , in time , and are making BS excuses blaming everything else.

Every forum I've seen that's held a poll has been overwhelmingly for the addition of text chat. I actually haven't seen one here weirdly, though I don't come around here much.

It's not like they had any legwork for it, it's not like text chat is some future technology that borders on mysticism, it's not like the PC version didn't have text chat already in place.

There have been a few around here, along with many, many threads about it. The general consensus, especially among the new Soul Shriven ranks around, has been widely in-favor of adding text chat.

j_labbeb16_ESO

I don't know about you guys but I'm enjoying the no chat box, all it was good for on pc was gold sellers, guild spammers and people spamming items for sale.

Amiculi

blackhat840 wrote: »

There is absolutely no reason this game does not have a text chat function. Every MMO I've played, including other console versions have a text chat along with their voice chat. We need this for a lot of reasons....oh I don't know...guild chat! Where is the guild communication, how are we supposed to set times of meet ups, or ask if anyone wants to go do some exploring? We cant.

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

I don't know about you guys but I'm enjoying the no chat box, all it was good for on pc was gold sellers, guild spammers and people spamming items for sale.

Sometimes we want to see the spammed items for sale. If I didn't want to put up with it I switched to my tab with Zone filtered out and never saw the text box at all unless someone PM'd me or the like.

Assuming they show a modicum of competence and include such filters, it wouldn't hurt you at all.

Meanwhile, voice chat doesn't have to bother us texty people because we can just mute it. Magic.

ZOS_AlanG

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