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The Deceitful Specifics of the Imperial Edition for PS4
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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have to remember most of the people attacking you over this do not own consoles. They dont know how the stores on consoles work. Forgive them for they know not what they talk about hehe.So you're mad that two people can't use all the perks of one copy of a game?
The Imperial Edition Upgrade on the Xbox Store states " Enhance your adventures with The Imperial Edition Upgrade. The Imperial race is able to play in any alliance you choose. You'll be able to travel around Tamriel with your trusty Imperial White Horse. Your character will have immediate access to craft Imperial gear, or transform existing gear into the Imperial style. Adventuring can be lonely, good thing you'll have a companion to adventure with, an exclusive Mudcrab vanity pet. If the adorable Mudcrab isn't enough company, the Rings of Mara will allow you to complete the Ritual of Mara, where you and a friend will receive an experience bonus when playing together."
YOUR adventures, YOUR character.
What you're expecting is the mechanics of non-mmo games to be applied to an mmo, yet other non-mmo games don't work like this. In Call of Duty can you share your guns and perks with your brother. In GTA5 can you share your cars or your GTA online money with your brother? In what game can you share the perks of your SPECIFIC save/character with your brother?
As many have said, if you share your ESO account with your brother you will have a solved problem. ZOS has ALREADY removed the game-key requirement for Xbox so you and your brother can share the copy of ESO.
You being uninformed is, quite bluntly, your problem.
This is a really easy fix. Man up and buy a second copy or at least have your brother buy the upgrade for his account.
Its not as simple as sharing the account (PSN by the way)-https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4985/kw/Imperial Edition. I'm gonna just trust you to read about how console dlc works and what people have said here to understand ny position. It's not like us wanting to share a gun in COD, it's like us preordering COD and being promised a special gun for doing so and only one player receiving it. I did not purchase the IE while in the game om my account, of course I would know then that it only applies to me. We preordered (before the game and before we knew how their content worked. Especially considering that even they didn't mention how it worked) the IE of the game, whichappeared to be like everything other console extra content that is universally applied.1 -
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have to remember most of the people attacking you over this do not own consoles. They dont know how the stores on consoles work. Forgive them for they know not what they talk about hehe.
Thanks friend. If this accomplishes nothing then at least it helped inform some people and create a more understanding environment.0 -
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✭TheLegendOfAbe wrote: »Ultimately, missing the perks isn't arawcomrade91 wrote: »The easy solution? Share one Xbox Live account and you and your brother create different characters on the same account. Perks are account-wide.
Well we're on PS4 (not that it makes much of a difference) and from what I read the accounts are kinda account-wide byt the items will only be granted once. Look at this-https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4985/kw/Imperial Edition
So you actually use two (2) PSN accounts right? If so, it would safe to logically assume each account needs their own copy.0 -
driosketch wrote: »
What you're describing is not character bound since you could pass them along through the bank. Your pets and mount will be in the collections menu anyways, which is accessible to every character you make. Only the pledge, which is single use, will bind to one character who you use it on.TheLegendOfAbe wrote: »https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4985/kw/Imperial Edition
Even on the same account, you will only receive the Imperial Edition items on one character ever. If you wish to have them on other characters, they must be transferred through the bank or such. I assume the Imperial Race will be available to all characters though as it is not an item.
The additional stuff can also be bought in the crown store, so you shouldn't need to buy two games if you both want the perks.
Oh I'm well aware I can just buy the perks, but considering I just used all my money on the game itself I can't really rebuy it. Not to mention that we also have two more brothers who use the console so we would have to buy the perk 3 more times.0 -
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »You have to remember most of the people attacking you over this do not own consoles. They dont know how the stores on consoles work. Forgive them for they know not what they talk about hehe.
I'm not judging them. How should they know how a console store works if Bethesda even doesn't (or at least doesn't want)?
I own a console... but I don't share my content with another player. If you're playing on the same console... use the same ESO account. If you're NOT playing on the same console, buy another copy.
The context for this discussion jas been people on the same console, or it is for me. As for just sgaring an account, its possible but we won't get everything like we expected-https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4985/kw/Imperial Edition.
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BloodWolfe wrote: »The self-entitlement people have these days is absolutely RIDICULOUS! OP, get over yourself! You were NOT cheated! Why would they give 2 people the same thing for the price of one with the Imperial Edition content? I am surprised that they even allow the same disc to be used for multiple people which actually cheats themselves out of sales so for them to limit the Imperial Edition content to a one-time use code for 1 account is NOT you being cheated, it's you needing to get over your feeling self-entitlement.
Oh my, "I am surprised that they even allow the same disc to be used for multiple people"? You want me to buy ESO 4 times so all my siblings can play and so that the company gets money for each player? Um, I'm just kinda going to move on, sorry man/woman.Edited by TheLegendOfAbe on June 11, 2015 7:04PM0 -
nimander99 wrote: »Did you buy the game box and expect to be able to make accounts for your whole family off that one purchase? What are we talking about here?
Oh I preordered the game on the PSN store and just expected the content for the IE to apply to all accounts like other console dlc. This likely happened as neither me nor my brother are too familiar wuth buying content in MMOs. We can make an infinite number of accounts with the game, the perks just apply to only one.0 -
Hellsrelic✭✭TheLegendOfAbe wrote: »BloodWolfe wrote: »The self-entitlement people have these days is absolutely RIDICULOUS! OP, get over yourself! You were NOT cheated! Why would they give 2 people the same thing for the price of one with the Imperial Edition content? I am surprised that they even allow the same disc to be used for multiple people which actually cheats themselves out of sales so for them to limit the Imperial Edition content to a one-time use code for 1 account is NOT you being cheated, it's you needing to get over your feeling self-entitlement.
Oh my, "I am surprised that they even allow the same disc to be used for multiple people"? You want me to buy ESO 4 times so all my siblings can play and so that the company gets money foe each player? Um, I'm just kinda going to move on, sorry man/woman.
Are you not paying for 4 xbox live accounts though? Why should 4 people pay to be able to play online with their own friends list and not just simply all add them onto one?1 -
How dare they not put it in black and white right on the box.....I too would assume if I purchase a perk for an mmo that I can use it for as many accounts as i wish....
It wasn't presented clearly like an account specific perk. It's not like I bought it in game, it appeared like one of those preorder bonuses for fallout.0 -
Well unfortunately this is console. My bad, I did not look ul the exact specifics of the game's content (even though it wasn't specifically stating in an easily accessible location). I don't typically browse forums before buying a game, and only ever do to see if the game is good.Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »TheLegendOfAbe wrote: »Hey guys, me and my brother both pitched in the buy the Imperial Edition and, to our dismay, we found out that the specifics for how the perks are applied aren't really mentioned and kinda cheated us out. I looked around and I eventually found some more detailed information about the pack (sources included).
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/29758/kw/Imperial Edition
The Imperial Edition perks register and lock onto one account, not to the console. This means that if multiple players plan to play on the same system (siblings, roomates, etc.) then only the first one to redeem the key receives the perks. If the others wanted to also receive the perks, they woukd have to re-purchase the Imperial Edition on their own account in the ingame Crown Store.
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/28013/kw/Imperial Edition
If you apply the Imperial Edition perks to a player on one megaserver, you will not receive the perks if playing on a different megaserver.
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4985/kw/Imperial Edition
Even on the same account, you will only receive the Imperial Edition items on one character ever. If you wish to have them on other characters, they must be transferred through the bank or such. I assume the Imperial Race will be available to all characters though as it is not an item.
I can see why they would want to implement such (cheap) methods in managing the Imperial Edition, otherwise people could make multiple accounts on the same system or multiple characters to trade off or sell the Imperial Edition items. However, this isn't the best way to deal with the issue and is actually quite unfair and deceitful considering that they never even mention this. A better method could possibly to make all Imperial Edition items untradeable and sellable for 0 gold.
This has been known since PC Launch. Its not news and its not shocking. Everyone thats owned a PC version of the Imperial Edition or anyone that cared to look into it (plenty of old threads on it from PC Launch) knew that this is the direction they went.
I really dont see the issue here. Just split up the items between you and whomever is also using the account. Next time do a little more research into your purchase.
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TheLegendOfAbe wrote: »Ultimately, missing the perks isn't arawcomrade91 wrote: »The easy solution? Share one Xbox Live account and you and your brother create different characters on the same account. Perks are account-wide.
Well we're on PS4 (not that it makes much of a difference) and from what I read the accounts are kinda account-wide byt the items will only be granted once. Look at this-https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4985/kw/Imperial Edition
So you actually use two (2) PSN accounts right? If so, it would safe to logically assume each account needs their own copy.
Each account needs their own copy of the game? Well if you meant that, all console profile can play a game off one disc. If you meant their own copy if the content, I thought it would just be like other dlc. Although, if I first bought the standard edition and tried to upgrade ingame then I would have known it is specific.0 -
Hellsrelic wrote: »TheLegendOfAbe wrote: »BloodWolfe wrote: »The self-entitlement people have these days is absolutely RIDICULOUS! OP, get over yourself! You were NOT cheated! Why would they give 2 people the same thing for the price of one with the Imperial Edition content? I am surprised that they even allow the same disc to be used for multiple people which actually cheats themselves out of sales so for them to limit the Imperial Edition content to a one-time use code for 1 account is NOT you being cheated, it's you needing to get over your feeling self-entitlement.
Oh my, "I am surprised that they even allow the same disc to be used for multiple people"? You want me to buy ESO 4 times so all my siblings can play and so that the company gets money foe each player? Um, I'm just kinda going to move on, sorry man/woman.
Are you not paying for 4 xbox live accounts though? Why should 4 people pay to be able to play online with their own friends list and not just simply all add them onto one?
Oh no, I'm on PSN. And my brother is the only one paying for a PlayStation Plus subscription and we all can play online from different acounts still. The online aspect for PlayStation Plus appears to be console-specific, no need for everyone to have it.0 -
Alp2760✭✭I bought the IE and wouldn't ever have thought it would be shared across accounts. Nor should it. They haven't mislead or cheated anyone, you just assumed something and we're wrong. Not having a go at you for assuming it, you have your own reasons but at the same time, they haven't cheated you in any way. If in doubt, check first.1
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✭✭✭TheLegendOfAbe wrote: »driosketch wrote: »
What you're describing is not character bound since you could pass them along through the bank. Your pets and mount will be in the collections menu anyways, which is accessible to every character you make. Only the pledge, which is single use, will bind to one character who you use it on.TheLegendOfAbe wrote: »https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4985/kw/Imperial Edition
Even on the same account, you will only receive the Imperial Edition items on one character ever. If you wish to have them on other characters, they must be transferred through the bank or such. I assume the Imperial Race will be available to all characters though as it is not an item.
The additional stuff can also be bought in the crown store, so you shouldn't need to buy two games if you both want the perks.
Oh I'm well aware I can just buy the perks, but considering I just used all my money on the game itself I can't really rebuy it. Not to mention that we also have two more brothers who use the console so we would have to buy the perk 3 more times.
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Sithisvoid✭✭✭✭✭The horse, vanity pet, and Imperial race are good for all characters on a single megaserver but the rings of mara are one time. Was there something else i was missing or is the ring the only thing that's a single character? It sucks you and your bro both can't use it but there is an upgrade option in the crown store. Not saying it's a perfect situation but if you guys split the cost of the upgrade again it won't be so bad.1 -
I bought the IE and wouldn't ever have thought it would be shared across accounts. Nor should it. They haven't mislead or cheated anyone, you just assumed something and we're wrong. Not having a go at you for assuming it, you have your own reasons but at the same time, they haven't cheated you in any way. If in doubt, check first.
True, I only kinda felt cheated though. Not like I'm horribly offended, just like "Oh well that kinda sucks". Based on previous experiences, I was confident we'd all get it.Edited by TheLegendOfAbe on June 11, 2015 7:02PM0 -
Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
It seems that I may have not mentioned that we bought it on PS4 in the original post. I'll go and add that.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭For what it's worth I've never encountered a game that works like this before, on PC, PS4 or any of the other consoles I own.
I'd expect it to be all or nothing: either the Imperial Edition key code allows every account on the console to play the Imperial Edition or just 1 account. Allowing one account the Imperial Edition and everyone else the base game is confusing IMO.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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TrueKoreSoul ShrivenMerlin13KAGL wrote: »@jamesharv2005ub17_ESO why is it so hard for (some) console users to understand that ZoS added stipulations beyond the standard Xbox/PS contract?
The problem exactly is that they didn't. When you head to the Xbox Store to preorder there's only description. And usually they attach specialtys like availbility and all those kinds of information there. But Bethesda didn't and that's what makes me angry.So if you had known, what would that have changed? Would you not have bought the imperial edition? You might be able to get a refund on that if you request, and then just have the base game and lose all of the benefits. Or if it's just because you shared- then you can share getting another.
If neither of those is applicable, then I don't think it was the communication that's your problem. You just want it to be some way that it's not. That's pretty unsolvable.
But don't hide behind the lack of understanding/communication.
Yeah if they had written in the description that this package works different to the standard I just would have bought the standard edition and everything would have been fine. It's only about the lack of information in the game's description nothing else.
So I now called the Xbox Support and they offered me a full refund. I accepted it and 3 minutes later got my money back. Won't buy the game as standard edition again at the moment. That's really sad as I was waiting for this game over one year and was so happy that I finally released. But I just can't accept how Bethesda is handling this. I also created a support ticket (no not today ) and they didn't even respond. Not even that they are really bussy at the moment and it will need time to answer it. Nothing. They are communicating like amateurs.
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✭✭✭✭✭Nice to hear you got a refund @TrueKore.
A couple of things though, This isn't any different than how other MMOs/Perpetually Online games handle their perks. So any game that is coming out that gives you any perk that doesn't explicitly involve a separate download FOR THAT PERK in the PSN/Xbox live store, will be handled in this exact same way.
Also, it's not Bethesda that is handling the customer service here. It's Zenimax Online studios.
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Dahkoht✭✭✭✭✭FFXIV ARR on PS4 , mmo , on a console , works this same way.
The CE perks for it are for one account only also.
MMO's work this way , not just "PC mmo's"
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