How to remove your lag in pvp gameplay:

CN_Daniel
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Step one: Set graphical settings to medium

Step two: Turn off grass

Step three: Turn off all the sparkly effects

Doing these three things above will stop most of the lagging you experience. We have tested it in our groups of 48 people. IF WE ALL spam purge/healing springs, ONLY THOSE people who do not have these setting changes above start screaming 'lag omg lag'. Everyone else in my party who accepts these settings doesn't see one problem.


This will stop 90% of lag problems. The other 10% (like when 48vs48 stack a flag) is a server side problem that cannot be fixed by setting changes.




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  • Makkir
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    Does disabling things like particle density have any adverse affect on your PvP gameplay? I.e. not being able to see Daedric Mines on the ground, or CC immunity circles around other player's feet? I have a higher end machine so I am asking because I don't know.
  • QuadroTony
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  • sadownik
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    NPK Daniel wrote: »
    Step one: Set graphical settings to medium

    Step two: Turn off grass

    Step three: Turn off all the sparkly effects

    Doing these three things above will stop most of the lagging you experience. We have tested it in our groups of 48 people. IF WE ALL spam purge/healing springs, ONLY THOSE people who do not have these setting changes above start screaming 'lag omg lag'. Everyone else in my party who accepts these settings doesn't see one problem.


    This will stop 90% of lag problems. The other 10% (like when 48vs48 stack a flag) is a server side problem that cannot be fixed by setting changes.




    My fee for your lag free pvp experience is 1 million dollars. Thank you ESO. PST me for my Paypal info.

    I would pay you, sadly you are wrong. Its just your pc - it cant handle too many visuals to process, therefore your fps goes down. Lag is still there.

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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    The only lag i experience is when the ping gets red due to giant zergballs.

    I don't lag if folks spam healing springs, or purge on their own.

    IMO the lag in this game is caused server side lag and FPS drops because the client is waiting on the server and can't render anymore until it gets a response from a server overloaded on calculations, etc.

    Lastly, i couldn't play at medium settings...My Crossfire GPU's are not even pegged out yet now at 1600p. I never drop below 55 FPS unless im in a giant zerg ball.

    its worth a shot though, let other folks try it and see. if it works i'll give it a shot, but most of my lag seems to happen when ping turns red i know a large zerg is around.
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  • CN_Daniel
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    I'd speculate my machine is at least on par or above the normal machine people play with.

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    These setting changes will improve performance for nearly everyone. My friends who have $10k machines don't have these problems and 'I never see the lag' is what they say. But for the average person, this will help, a lot.
  • CN_Daniel
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    NPK has a guru of fixing the lag named Kam. A truly awesome human being who strives to help everyone. Anyone having 'lag' problems who made these changes always said it helped somewhat at a minimum.


    Now, obviously, this WILL NOT fix the problems of "oh i can't put seige down" or "we capped the flag but it's still red" etc etc. Those are server problems you cannot fix.
  • Gyudan
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    Step 1: turn off screen.

    The lag may still be there but at least you won't see it.
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  • Weberda
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    Gyudan wrote: »
    Step 1: turn off screen.

    The lag may still be there but at least you won't see it.

    You have no idea how many times I have been tempted to do just that. lol

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    Weberda wrote: »
    Gyudan wrote: »
    Step 1: turn off screen.

    The lag may still be there but at least you won't see it.

    You have no idea how many times I have been tempted to do just that. lol
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  • Lesspa
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    Ive been on medium settings since release and have always had those things turned off but still experience the lag.

    Its probably the core 2 quad im running(barely)....
  • Xsorus
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    i don't really lag in PvP, at least FPS wise

    but i've turned off grass for a long time simply because it reminds me of DAOC

    plus looking up always had grass get into my camera

  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    FPS lag vs Ping lag..

    FPS isnt a issue... its when your in the middle of no where and unable to sucessfully cast abilitys because of the number of players in the server.

    or in the middle of a attempt to dethrone a EMP between all three factions and while you can see your abilitys moving flawlessly, most of them never take effect or even register that they were cast for 10s-1m+

    if you can find settings that fix the lag caused by having full factional poplock, do share... but anything FPS related is better off in Support at this point as it should be obvious if your FPS is chugging, you need to turn down a few of your settings.

    i hate to be the *** with this reply, yet i dont.... some stuff should be blantently obvious.

    and these forums have already had this topic made quite a few times...
    Edited by Hypertionb14_ESO on June 9, 2015 8:37PM
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  • King Bozo
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    You can also play in your underwear it helps lag. Also no weapons just use your fist. Also don't drink potions because you die faster causing less lag.
  • Valnas
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    shadows and water eat a lot of resources. keep subsampling high and everything looks pretty good.
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    FPS lag vs Ping lag..

    FPS isnt a issue... its when your in the middle of no where and unable to sucessfully cast abilitys because of the number of players in the server.

    or in the middle of a attempt to dethrone a EMP between all three factions and while you can see your abilitys moving flawlessly, most of them never take effect or even register that they were cast for 10s-1m+

    if you can find settings that fix the lag caused by having full factional poplock, do share... but anything FPS related is better off in Support at this point as it should be obvious if your FPS is chugging, you need to turn down a few of your settings.

    i hate to be the *** with this reply, yet i dont.... some stuff should be blantently obvious.

    and these forums have already had this topic made quite a few times...

    Pretty much this, FPS isn't an issue, its Ping and its directly related to ZergBalls

  • saintmurray
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    Oh god not this again.... the lag is sever side. Some peoples pcs may not be able to run eso at full settings, thats fine and understandable the lag we all complain about is 48v48 lag inside a keep etc.
    Edited by saintmurray on June 9, 2015 9:06PM
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  • danno8
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    Honestly while in Cyrodill I have never had my framerate go any lower than 20 fps, even in massive battles.

    The action will be rendering perfectly, but nothing happens. People running around doing stuff, but not really doing anything. If my computer were having problems with fps, they would be at <1 fps in those situations.

    Machine is mid-range, 760 GTX and i5 4670k, with 16 GB ram.

    So NPK_Daniel, were they seeing lag or low FPS? And if you say lag, is that verified by looking at the latency meter? Did it show 999+? If that were the case I would say you are on to something.
  • G0ku
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    NPK Daniel wrote: »
    My friends who have $10k machines don't have these problems and 'I never see the lag' is what they say.
    My friends all have $20k machines so no sweat :neutral:

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  • God_flakes
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    MOAR erp=LESS lag.
  • Cathexis
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    I've been through this in the past, there is a distinction between client side and server side lag.

    I'm using 2x gtx460 in sli with maxed out over clock (basically the worst thing you can run on with coherent play) and I have found that just turning textures down one setting (medium) I can leave shaders on high (you don't need ultra EVER, ultra loads shaders in a radius around you, high loads it only in your field of view) and view distance if I remember rightly you don't need on full because there is a cap on rendered objects where after a certain point you are rendering objects that are too far away to be displayed (I think the cap is like 70 view distance). Grass is on, lights are on, shaders to full, I only get server side lag.

    I think it has something to do with textures being needlessly layered twice and that the underlying initial texture design was never cleaned up.

    Server side lag you can't do anything about.
    Usually its caused by spamming abilities with high particles in zergs flooding the server with requests, or single individuals employing lag switches (you can tell this happens when one person can survive 20 people and when they die the lag completely drops off). This won't manifest as choppy frame rates (which is client lag), instead it will simply manifest as unresponsive skills, stalling animations, invulnerability, rubber band movement, and sudden inexplicable death.

    Edit; i play on 2560x1080.

    If I turn off/drop everything and put textures on medium I can play @ 7680x1080
    Edited by Cathexis on June 10, 2015 5:55PM
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  • Sallington
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    These steps worked for me:
    1. Uninstall ESO
    2. Check forums for updates
    3. Ask myself what I expected
    4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 daily

    No lag in 2 months, but hope is at an all time low
    Edited by Sallington on June 10, 2015 8:16PM
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    Reformat your computer sometimes and start fresh (if you know how to do that...) You could have a virus you know!
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  • CN_Daniel
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    Roselle wrote: »
    Reformat your computer sometimes and start fresh (if you know how to do that...) You could have a virus you know!

    I used to get the <<<1>>> error and a reformat did fix that. I would ONLY crash when I joined a large group, it was crazy.
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    When a keep flag is being contested for, and all abilities stop working, no damage is recorded, and rubber banding is occuring, it does not matter if I have my graphics set on Ultra or low for that matter. You should retitle your post to "how to get higher frames".
    Edited by c0rp on June 10, 2015 11:24PM
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  • MisterBigglesworth
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    The lag is caused by netcode which was either poorly written to begin with or caused by modifications to the server-client trust which had to be made shortly after release in order to combat botting (essentially, more data has to be passed to the server for "approval"). Since botting should be a non-issue on console, it may be possible to have unique netcode for console whereby the server trusts the client more than it does on PC. If this has been implemented you could expect to see much better Cyrodiil performance on console. Unfortunately it also means these loosened client restrictions will never come to PC on account of the looming threat of botting.
    Edited by MisterBigglesworth on June 11, 2015 2:19AM
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  • frozywozy
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    I've played at medium for a long time now with shadows at low and my fps never drop under 40.
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  • Mako1132
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    its almost as if OP doesn't know the difference between fps drop and lag :|
  • Davadin
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    NPK Daniel wrote: »
    I'd speculate my machine is at least on par or above the normal machine people play with.

    7870
    haswell quad
    16gb


    These setting changes will improve performance for nearly everyone. My friends who have $10k machines don't have these problems and 'I never see the lag' is what they say. But for the average person, this will help, a lot.

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  • Mako1132
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    Davadin wrote: »
    NPK Daniel wrote: »
    I'd speculate my machine is at least on par or above the normal machine people play with.

    7870
    haswell quad
    16gb


    These setting changes will improve performance for nearly everyone. My friends who have $10k machines don't have these problems and 'I never see the lag' is what they say. But for the average person, this will help, a lot.

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    He clearly needs to download more ram
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    FPS != Latency.
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