Are there Dragons in ESO?

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO

I know there are in Skyrim, but I am assuming no? What about Wyverns?

JD2013

Lore wise, there are a couple of dragons alive at this time, but for the most part dragons are dead and buried and gone.

BuggeX

In Tamriel are no Dragons left at this time Teso Play.
In Skyrim they were reborn by Alduin.

Mby at some Point Zos will add a Portal to Akavir the continent of the Dragons.

And btw. The "Dragons" in Skyrim were not Dragons becaus Dragons have 4 legs + Wings.
Skyrim got Wyverns, Wyverns have just 2 legs and Wings right under the "Hands"

JD2013

The closest we get to dragons in ESO are Daedric Titans.

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO

That would make for an awesome expansion! Get a Dragon Mount! Flying Mounts in the realm (similar to what WOW did for Burning Crusade) and maybe an epic storyling taking you to level 60 which has ties to Skyrim (and you preventing an invasion of Dragons). How Cool would that be? It would also give a good excuse for a Collectors Expansion boxset with a Dragon Statue!

Are you sure you didnt just leak thier well kept secret they were announcing for XMAS?

Aeladiir

Skyrim's dragons are a type of wyverns/resemble them to some point. You won't find any Witcher-type wyverns, though (i.e. smaller dragonlings), not to my knowledge. Paarthunax should be very much alive and Alduin is currently travelling to the future where Dovahkiin awaits. Some dragons in ESO are alive and well, but they're rare and will last be seen after the arrival of Tiber Septim. Most of them are believed to be dead (the ones that Alduin revived in the Fourth Era).

Edit: Oh, you're one of THOSE people. Why did I even bother writing...

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burdocklightbringercub18_ESO

domenthechief wrote: »

Skyrim's dragons are a type of wyverns/resemble them to some point. You won't find any Witcher-type wyverns, though (i.e. smaller dragonlings), not to my knowledge. Paarthunax should be very much alive and Alduin is currently travelling to the future where Dovahkiin awaits. Some dragons in ESO are alive and well, but they're rare and will last be seen after the arrival of Tiber Septim. Most of them are believed to be dead (the ones that Alduin revived in the Fourth Era).

Edit: Oh, you're one of THOSE people. Why did I even bother writing...

I dont understand, what do you mean by "One of THOSE" people?

JD2013

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO wrote: »

domenthechief wrote: »

Skyrim's dragons are a type of wyverns/resemble them to some point. You won't find any Witcher-type wyverns, though (i.e. smaller dragonlings), not to my knowledge. Paarthunax should be very much alive and Alduin is currently travelling to the future where Dovahkiin awaits. Some dragons in ESO are alive and well, but they're rare and will last be seen after the arrival of Tiber Septim. Most of them are believed to be dead (the ones that Alduin revived in the Fourth Era).

Edit: Oh, you're one of THOSE people. Why did I even bother writing...

I dont understand, what do you mean by "One of THOSE" people?

I think he means flying mounts. Flying dragon mounts would not work in game for lots of reasons. Main ones being that zones aren't seamless and they don't transition into one another, so flying would be impossible.

And the amount of lore that it would break ... well ... it's akin to bringing the Dwemer back as a playable race.

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO

Couldn't they work if you only limited them to when you went through the portal to Akavir, Cause there would be areas that Dragons could reach they unless you had a flying mount would be inaccessible. And Lore is always in flux, there is always new lore to explore, otherwise, what would be the point?

NewBlacksmurf

Flying mounts....no thanks
I would like mounts that do more than just ride but flying....no thanks as this would work but of no interest to me at this time

BuggeX

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO wrote: »

Couldn't they work if you only limited them to when you went through the portal to Akavir, Cause there would be areas that Dragons could reach they unless you had a flying mount would be inaccessible. And Lore is always in flux, there is always new lore to explore, otherwise, what would be the point?

Well Well Well...

Akavi should be a Dream, nothing else..mby and just 0,0000001% mby we will see Akavir in 10 Years

retyler3_ESO

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO wrote: »

That would make for an awesome expansion! Get a Dragon Mount! Flying Mounts in the realm (similar to what WOW did for Burning Crusade) and maybe an epic storyling taking you to level 60 which has ties to Skyrim (and you preventing an invasion of Dragons). How Cool would that be? It would also give a good excuse for a Collectors Expansion boxset with a Dragon Statue!

Are you sure you didnt just leak thier well kept secret they were announcing for XMAS?

No, no, no, ...

I'm sorry, but that is not a good idea. I like flying mounts in WoW, but I do not want them in this game; and I do not want this game to be like WoW.

I am on board for the dragon statue though.

Rosveen

Dragons are overdone. A single dragon as an epic raid boss would be a nice touch, but giving them any more story significance is a cheap move to appeal to Skyrim fanboys. I want new stories, not Skyrim 2.0. It's too early to even reference it for nostalgia value.

Bfish22090

I will pay 10k crowns for a flying dragon mount

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO

I would pay 50k crowns for an EPIC Flying Dragon Mount!!

Elsonso

Flying mounts: Will probably never happen. Game is not designed for this, will take a lot of work to make it happen. Each zone is a separate world, so once you get above the mountains, things look unfinished. My thought is that this is at least as much work as underwater swimming. Of course, they could 'fake' it by having ground mounts that don't look like they are touching the ground.

Dragons: Being intent on world domination takes a lot of energy. They are still sleeping from their last attempt.

Continuity: I do want to point out that, in terms of continuity with the TES games that happen 800 years from now, they seem to have created a "dream season" scenario. This means that, in terms of Lore, after the time of ESO, Tamriel could undergo a "reset" so that the events in ESO never happened. So, yeah, dragons could appear at any moment.

KhajitFurTrader

lordrichter wrote: »

I do want to point out that, in terms of continuity with the TES games that happen 800 years from now, they seem to have created a "dream season" scenario.This means that, in terms of Lore, after the time of ESO, Tamriel could undergo a "reset" so that the events in ESO never happened.

Should they ever remake TES: Arena, and the player character first wakes up under the shower a waterfall, we know what's up...

nimander99

None of the following txt is mine all credit goes to FlaeorFOR THE QUEEN in eso reddit for researching this and I hope this finally puts the issue to bed for all the nay sayers

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submitted 1 day ago * by FlaeorFOR THE QUEEEEEN!

tl;dr Dragons are not extinct in the time of ESO. There are still at least a few dragons alive somewhere.

I keep seeing that "all dragons are dead" on the ESO sub-reddit so I wanted to clear this up. Dragons are NOT dead when ESO takes place. ESO (so far) takes place during the Interregnum at the end of the Second Era (Morrowind and Oblivion take place in the Third Era, and Skyrim takes place in the Fourth Era), a 400-year period during which there are many "false emperors". This explains how there can be a new emperor in Cyrodil every day.

Now, from the unofficial Elder Scrolls wiki: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)

Disappearance

Before the events of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, the last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim.[3] He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him. Despite his promise, dragons were still hunted and slain. It's not clear if the last ones fled Tamriel or if they were exterminated.

ESO takes place during the Interregnum, at the end of which Tiber Septim begins the Septim dynasty. Therefore, it is entirely possible for at least a dragon or two to show up in ESO. Tiber Septim has not been born yet and so cannot make pacts with, hunt, or slay dragons.

UPDATE: An in-game book http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:There_Be_Dragons

The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim. He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him. Despite his promise, dragons were still hunted and slain. It's not clear if the last ones fled Tamriel or if they were exterminated.

Thanks /u/patchgrabber!

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here is the link to the reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/387qwp/psa_dragons_are_not_out_of_the_question/

BBSooner

Dragons not only exist during the time of ESO (I wish people would stop saying otherwise, even if we pretend that humans could possibly know all the names of dragons that still leaves some named dragons around), but they will continue to be subjected to hunting through the end of this era.

That said, TES needs to move away from the fascination of Dragons IMO. Dragons were Skyrim's thing. It was great. I loved it. Every TES from this point on doesn't need to be "Skyrim 2: Now with more Dragons".

I wouldn't have minded a cave delve in ESO that featured a dragon encounter at the end. We are probably capable of bringing one down. But during beta ZOS stated they have no plans or desires to include a dragon in ESO. That of course may change, I'm sure if it can be heavily monetized they will give us a dragon, dragon mount (with multiple variations), a dragon motif, a dragon costume, a pet dragon, and a special item that lets all the snowflakes transform in to their very own dragon.

BuggeX

Never Forget, that the Lore is writen allready. Thats wy ppl Keep saying there are no Dragons in Teso.
In Skyrim you get told that this is the First Dragon, since the Dragon War, witch was saw alive.

So the Dragon War was Late ME even bevor E1. Since them noone in Tamriel ever saw a Dragon alive.
We know that Dragons exist becaus we know the Stroy mostly from Alduin himself. But Back then E3 noone knows.

AhPook_Is_Here

There should be unicorns, and I want to ride one, and I will pay 10,000 crowns to do it!

Korah_Eaglecry

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO wrote: »

I know there are in Skyrim, but I am assuming no? What about Wyverns?

Were you paying any attention to Skyrim when you played through it?


You can always tell the player that started with Skyrim. Because all they care about is the dragons.

BBSooner

BuggeX wrote: »

Never Forget, that the Lore is writen allready. Thats wy ppl Keep saying there are no Dragons in Teso.
In Skyrim you get told that this is the First Dragon, since the Dragon War, witch was saw alive.

So the Dragon War was Late ME even bevor E1. Since them noone in Tamriel ever saw a Dragon alive.
We know that Dragons exist becaus we know the Stroy mostly from Alduin himself. But Back then E3 noone knows.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:There_Be_Dragons

The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim. He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him. Despite his promise, dragons were still hunted and slain. It's not clear if the last ones fled Tamriel or if they were exterminated.

They were known of and hunted through the second and 3rd era. Their sightings were likely greatly reduced, sure, but they were known enough to have people actually hunt them despite the biased and ignorant accounts we get from civilians in TES:V.

Edit: Just realized the quote from There Be Dragons is also quoted above.

Maotti

Closest thing to dragon in ESO currently.

http://uesp.net/wiki/Online:Daedra_Dossier:_The_Titans

BuggeX

BBSooner wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

Never Forget, that the Lore is writen allready. Thats wy ppl Keep saying there are no Dragons in Teso.
In Skyrim you get told that this is the First Dragon, since the Dragon War, witch was saw alive.

So the Dragon War was Late ME even bevor E1. Since them noone in Tamriel ever saw a Dragon alive.
We know that Dragons exist becaus we know the Stroy mostly from Alduin himself. But Back then E3 noone knows.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:There_Be_Dragons

The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim. He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him. Despite his promise, dragons were still hunted and slain. It's not clear if the last ones fled Tamriel or if they were exterminated.

They were known of and hunted through the second and 3rd era. Their sightings were likely greatly reduced, sure, but they were known enough to have people actually hunt them despite the biased and ignorant accounts we get from civilians in TES:V.

Edit: Just realized the quote from There Be Dragons is also quoted above.

Yes with Tiber Septim, Late E3 - E4. He startet the new Era.
So right after Teso. Still Septim is not Born yet so noone knows...yet

The only one who could known about Dragons is Mannimarco

BBSooner

BuggeX wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

Never Forget, that the Lore is writen allready. Thats wy ppl Keep saying there are no Dragons in Teso.
In Skyrim you get told that this is the First Dragon, since the Dragon War, witch was saw alive.

So the Dragon War was Late ME even bevor E1. Since them noone in Tamriel ever saw a Dragon alive.
We know that Dragons exist becaus we know the Stroy mostly from Alduin himself. But Back then E3 noone knows.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:There_Be_Dragons

The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim. He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him. Despite his promise, dragons were still hunted and slain. It's not clear if the last ones fled Tamriel or if they were exterminated.

They were known of and hunted through the second and 3rd era. Their sightings were likely greatly reduced, sure, but they were known enough to have people actually hunt them despite the biased and ignorant accounts we get from civilians in TES:V.

Edit: Just realized the quote from There Be Dragons is also quoted above.

Yes with Tiber Septim, Late E3 - E4. He startet the new Era.
So right after Teso. Still Septim is not Born yet so noone knows...yet

The only one who could known about Dragons is Mannimarco

That's speculation based on nothing. Dragon hunters exist in this point in time in Tamriel. If you're looking for a single protagonist, Cyrus specifically encounters a dragon in the second era.

Raash

since time do not really move forth in ESO in any logical way there would be possible to bring dragons back or forth of time and even ride them. Wouldnt break anything lore wise to be able to ride a dragon for what ever reason - most of the game world wouldnt even notice it was around since it would maybe just be for one day.

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO wrote: »

I know there are in Skyrim, but I am assuming no? What about Wyverns?

Were you paying any attention to Skyrim when you played through it?


You can always tell the player that started with Skyrim. Because all they care about is the dragons.

Nice comments - have to correct you though, I started with Arena and then every game since, thanks.

BuggeX

BBSooner wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

Never Forget, that the Lore is writen allready. Thats wy ppl Keep saying there are no Dragons in Teso.
In Skyrim you get told that this is the First Dragon, since the Dragon War, witch was saw alive.

So the Dragon War was Late ME even bevor E1. Since them noone in Tamriel ever saw a Dragon alive.
We know that Dragons exist becaus we know the Stroy mostly from Alduin himself. But Back then E3 noone knows.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:There_Be_Dragons

The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim. He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him. Despite his promise, dragons were still hunted and slain. It's not clear if the last ones fled Tamriel or if they were exterminated.

They were known of and hunted through the second and 3rd era. Their sightings were likely greatly reduced, sure, but they were known enough to have people actually hunt them despite the biased and ignorant accounts we get from civilians in TES:V.

Edit: Just realized the quote from There Be Dragons is also quoted above.

Yes with Tiber Septim, Late E3 - E4. He startet the new Era.
So right after Teso. Still Septim is not Born yet so noone knows...yet

The only one who could known about Dragons is Mannimarco

That's speculation based on nothing. Dragon hunters exist in this point in time in Tamriel. If you're looking for a single protagonist, Cyrus specifically encounters a dragon in the second era.

Nafaalilargus, the Dragon you speek about was slain in E2 864 by Cyrus ( Born E2 831)

We Play in E2 582.

Tiber Septim was Born in E2 828.

Atlas of Dragons, (written 2E 373 by the Blades)

this 4 Drags are "known" to alive

Ahbiilok - Sightings dating back to the early years of the Dragonguard throughout the northern Jerralls. Multiple attempts to kill him have failed. He is believed to be lairing somewhere in Morrowind.

Mirmulnir - Last sighted in the Reach in 2E 212.

Nahfahlaar - Repeated alliances with mortal protectors which have prevented his elimination. His last known protector was the King Casimir II of Wayrest, which the Dragonguard successfully ended in 2E 369. He escaped and current location is unknown.

Paarthurnax - The legendary lieutenant of Alduin in the Dragon War. He is now known to lair on the Throat of the World under the protection of the Greybeards of High Hrothgar. Master Araidh continues the established policy of avoiding direct confrontation with the Greybeards while waiting for an opportunity to exact justice upon him.

After this Book all Drags, exept Paarthurnax, are not known if they live or where, so just a Legend.
Paarthurnax is known to alive. Paarthurnax spent most of his time meditating, rarely communicating even with the Greybeards

Ghrimn

@Raash

Raash wrote: »

Wouldnt break anything lore wise to be able to ride a dragon for what ever reason - most of the game world wouldnt even notice it was around since it would maybe just be for one day.

It actually would, as of now there are Dragons are as Intelligent as any other Playable race (If not more), they are also a very proud and arrogant race, if you think they would let a puny mortal ride them you're very mistaken.
"We could Mind Control them"
Not even Molag Bal was able to do that, so it's highly unlikely any of the player characters could.
Also, there aren't enough Dragons alive for every player to be able to ride them.


@BuggeX

BuggeX wrote: »

are not known if they live or where, so just a Legend.

Mirmulnir and Nahfahlaar are alive.
Mirmulnir is the first Dragon you see (Alduin aside), Nahfahlaar = Nafaalilargus, and as you said he was only "killed" in E2 864.
Vulthuryol is also alive, although no one knows about him. He's the Dragon in Blackreach.