ESO on Windows 10?

Mosha

I've already seen the icon for the update to the Windows 10 RC on my PC, and I don't know if ESO would work on Windows 10.
Does anyone know more about this?

KerinKor

I removed the nagware

I expect ZOS will get around to Win10 once their pet console project is up and running and they remember the game only exists because of PC players paying to beta test it last year for the console release this.

Fhaerron

Yes.

Mosha

So yes, it does work?

BigM

Been running build 10130 for almost a week and working great. I did crash 1 time today right after I got patch but then I got right in and game running awesome. Seems like it runs way better with Win10. Six weeks and it goes live. Personally I think they need more time but that's M$!

Just warning do a fresh install of Win10 upgrading from current system will cause a lot more problems for you. But that is M$ also.

Mosha

and @KerinKor what's nagware? if it's a joke i'm sorry, dont know much about operating systems

Armitas

We definitely need an official comment on this. I imagine most people will click that upgrade reservation. If the game is not ready for W10 then it's going to be a big problem.

Mosha

Thanks @BigM ! now i'll see if it's worth updating and setting everything up, especially with all those funky tiles to be adjusted and stuff (I'm on Win 7 currently)

KerinKor

kiwifrucht2000neb18_ESO wrote: »

and @KerinKor what's nagware? if it's a joke i'm sorry, dont know much about operating systems

'Nagware' is spam software someone installs on your PC that keeps usually 'nagging' you to upgrade, for a fee, though in this case it's a 'free' upgrade, allegedly.

In this case that icon you see was planted on your PC by Windows Update under the cover of a 'recommended update' which most people would think was fixing a bug not trying to foist Windows 10 on you .. expect pop-up windows to arrive some time 'nagging' you, that's what this 'recoommended update' is intended to do.

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2906810/microsoft-seeds-windows-7-81-pcs-with-windows-10-upgrade-nag-notices.html

Mosha

Thanks @KerinKor. Live and learn...

BigM

kiwifrucht2000neb18_ESO wrote: »

Thanks @BigM ! now i'll see if it's worth updating and setting everything up, especially with all those funky tiles to be adjusted and stuff (I'm on Win 7 currently)

Yeah my buddy (we both been insiders for years) tried the upgrade with Win7 lets just say it didn't turn out so well. Best way to install it is download iso get Rufus http://rufus.akeo.ie/ and put it on 64gb usb flash drive for 64bit systems and 32gb for x86 systems. much faster than using a DVD.

Mosha

Ok, I'll see about doing that some time in the future. Or I might get a new PC beforehand, this one's rather oldish (low graphics quality in ESO isn't very thrilling)

KerinKor

I'll use Windows 7 till it's killed off like XP was, Windows 8.0 was a bad joke, 8.1 did little to make it funny and Windows 10 seems likely to be another lame attempt to foist 'tablet' workflow on a PC but with a [very poor] attempt to retain the desktop as a sop to those of us who see no reason at all to have 'tiles' on a desktop PC.

Mosha

And all that snazzy material design to make the whole thing look flat as a pancake and as boring as one.
Not to mention the tiles on the start button menu, that's like a convicted housebreaker promising to better himself and only breaks into cars from then on. Useless and a half-assing of the job.

Fhaerron

I kept using Windows XP untill Windows 7 was here because Vista was just plain bad.

Windows 7 was just so awesome and just so much faster but I changed to Windows 8 as soon as it came out, Windows 8 was even faster in booting up and shuting down (even on SSD) apart from all that I really don't mind the metro menu, though I use the 'normal' desktop all the time.

I've used the Windows 10 preview and it's again awesome, I'm all for modern UI's, and apart from that It's 'said' that DX12 will Be Windows 8 / 10 exclusive just as DX11 isn't supported by Windows XP.

"DirectX 12 promises both dramatically increased performance in games, thanks to reduced CPU overhead and better support for multithreading, and significantly reduced power consumption, a real boon for owners of gaming laptops. It will of course be built into Windows 10 and compatible with Windows 8 as well, but the news isn't so good for Windows 7 diehards."

The above is a copy paste from what most sites seem to say, however other sites have been saying it will be supported by Windows 7 ... We can't know 100% for sure but I would not be surprised if it was Windows 8 / 10 exclusive.

Krision

It works perfectly on Windows 10

Dar_Zeena

Until Microsoft stops trying to make my pc into a tablet I wont upgrade from Win7 to any other version. So.. never.

Fhaerron

Dar_Zeena wrote: »

Until Microsoft stops trying to make my pc into a tablet I wont upgrade from Win7 to any other version. So.. never.

While I totally understand your decision, Microsoft can probably 'force' people to use later Windows versions by making new DX exclusive...
It will still be some time before games will be DX12 only but I can see that happening in about 2 years and it will still be Windows 10 by then.

BigM

It won't be long maybe a year or two and they will force everyone to Win10 and there will not be any more versions of windows only updates that we may have to purchase in the future.

Dar_Zeena

BigM wrote: »

It won't be long maybe a year or two and they will force everyone to Win10 and there will not be any more versions of windows only updates that we may have to purchase in the future.

Considering I have automatic updates turned off, no they can not.

Fhaerron wrote: »

While I totally understand your decision, Microsoft can probably 'force' people to use later Windows versions by making new DX exclusive...

Sure, but it won't affect me until I upgrade my PC. (It already makes me sad that VisualStudio2015 is Windows8+ only...)

Fhaerron

BigM wrote: »

It won't be long maybe a year or two and they will force everyone to Win10 and there will not be any more versions of windows only updates that we may have to purchase in the future.

As the post said above me, they can't force it. Many people have automatic updates disabled, also I have a Windows 7 install iso with most of the latest updates build in > I'm not the only person with that.

Dar_Zeena wrote: »

It won't be long maybe a year or two and they will force everyone to Win10 and there will not be any more versions of windows only updates that we may have to purchase in the future.

Considering I have automatic updates turned off, no they can not.

Fhaerron wrote: »

While I totally understand your decision, Microsoft can probably 'force' people to use later Windows versions by making new DX exclusive...

Sure, but it won't affect me until I upgrade my PC. (It already makes me sad that VisualStudio2015 is Windows8+ only...)
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If your GPU does not support it then yes ofc, no reason at all then. That increased performance boost Microsoft only added in DX 12 (as far as I know).
Windows 7 is still used a lot and is the prefered OS by most gamers (over 50% on Steam to give an example) so I find it really bad of MS to only add DX12 to Windows 8 and newer... but yeah it's M$ ...

BigM

Dar_Zeena wrote: »

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BigM wrote: »

It won't be long maybe a year or two and they will force everyone to Win10 and there will not be any more versions of windows only updates that we may have to purchase in the future.

Considering I have automatic updates turned off, no they can not.

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Fhaerron wrote: »

While I totally understand your decision, Microsoft can probably 'force' people to use later Windows versions by making new DX exclusive...

Sure, but it won't affect me until I upgrade my PC. (It already makes me sad that VisualStudio2015 is Windows8+ only...)

LOL not laughing at you but you know M$ made it and they do not need update on to force you to end up having to pay to use their product. What I have been hearing is they want to stop pirates from using windows illegally so in long run (1 year after release) they will start charging you for using windows. Be like buying an anti-virus product that gives you updates and support until you have to pay for another year.

HoAxZoR

Only when Zenimax officially announces full DX12 Support (could be awhile) I will make the switch. Until Then its Win7x64 for me.

Robbmrp

Personally I see no point in upgrading to Windows 10 from Windows 7 64 bit. They need to work out the kinks in it and that will take about a year. It's also too different from Windows 7 for my liking.

When Microsoft and ZOS update ESO for PC + Xbox 1 players so they can play on the same server, I will hold off on getting it. That should come with DX12 that will be available for Windows 10 but it's still a few years out I think before it will be compatible.

Egonieser

kiwifrucht2000neb18_ESO wrote: »

I've already seen the icon for the update to the Windows 10 RC on my PC, and I don't know if ESO would work on Windows 10.
Does anyone know more about this?

Running Windows 10 since Insider Preview was available to the masses. No problems with ESO (at least none that are exclusive to Windows 10).
Just make sure you download Windows 10 drivers where possible, some companies like nVidia have already released Windows 10 beta drivers, i'm sure others have done too. If not - install Windows 8.1 drivers - they ran fine too.

LameoveR

Dx12 update for Eso? Don't make me laugh.

Fhaerron

HoAxZoR wrote: »

Only when Zenimax officially announces full DX12 Support (could be awhile) I will make the switch. Until Then its Win7x64 for me.

I doubt they will ever do that, you can't just change DX, lots of work is involved. Not many games have done this before either.
Not talking about remastered games ofc but that's another story.
And ESO is using DX9, they could have used DX11 ...

LameoveR

WoW got Dx11 support, btw. Not so long ago.

Fhaerron

LameoveR wrote: »

WoW got Dx11 support, btw. Not so long ago.

WoW has DX11 support for several years now...

I said not many games have done this. That doesn't mean NO game has done it.

BigM

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LameoveR wrote: »

WoW got Dx11 support, btw. Not so long ago.

WoW has DX11 support for several years now...

I said not many games have done this. That doesn't mean NO game has done it.

LOTRO uses DX11 and hearing they may update for DX12. Now that game looks fantastic for it's age on ultra settings, never under 50FPS.

Slylok

Dar_Zeena wrote: »

Until Microsoft stops trying to make my pc into a tablet I wont upgrade from Win7 to any other version. So.. never.

You can already run traditional windows view on Windows 8 and Windows 10 will make it even better for a desktop. You dont have to use the tiles if you dont want to.

The general public is so misinformed about Windows 8 / 10.