What difference do you think you'll like least after switching from PC to console version?

pecheckler
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If there are specific sub-categories of one of these four, please share. For example I will miss lack of text chat for trading and PvP objective coordination but I will be glad text chat is gone since it forces players to use the much improved group finder.

If you have suggestions please share. For example I would like to see full-text chat as an opt-in option for guilds and their members. Such a thing would certainly foster a much better trade guild experience.
Edited by pecheckler on May 30, 2015 12:31AM
End the tedious inventory management game.

What difference do you think you'll like least after switching from PC to console version? 26 votes

Lack of text chat.
50%
ZazaajiNaivefanboiParadoxMirra_HalfelvenGrim1216stewie_801VulsahdaalAdamBourkeMettaricanaStikatoUberkullKing Bozolsneakl 13 votes
PSN/Xbox handles instead of character names.
11%
FfastylJaronkingandybrain76 3 votes
Lack of quality of life add-on features
30%
manyrabidratsboilers61b14_ESOBigMpechecklerd.zid.816b16_ESOYukianHeromofoGrimnaur 8 votes
Inability to link items
3%
nothing2591 1 vote
Reduced graphics detail, longer loading times and other hardware limitations of consoles.
3%
Earelith 1 vote
  • Zazaaji
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    Lack of text chat.
    pecheckler wrote:
    Reduced graphics detail, longer loading times and other hardware limitations of consoles.
    That's completely male bovine *** matter and false.
    The console version plays at between high-ultra settings (which is likely above what the average ESO player's settings are), and the load time was VERY quick during beta. Much quicker than my PC did.

    Now, back to on topic:

    Lack of text chat.
    PSN/Xbox handles instead of character names.

    Both of those are going to be annoying. Picked lack of text chat though.
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    Edited by Zazaaji on May 30, 2015 12:45AM
    English is not my first language, Finnish is.
    Please don't heap on me for grammar problems.
  • Iselin
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    Other... I'll miss my 17 button mouse. Hopefully I'll adjust to the game pad.
  • Zazaaji
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    Lack of text chat.
    Iselin wrote: »
    Other... I'll miss my 17 button mouse. Hopefully I'll adjust to the game pad.
    Razer Naga? Great mouse.

    Personally during the console beta, I liked the gamepad controls a lot more than PC controls, despite the fact I used the Naga on my gaming PC.
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    Edited by Zazaaji on May 30, 2015 12:42AM
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    Please don't heap on me for grammar problems.
  • Iselin
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    Zazaaji wrote: »
    Iselin wrote: »
    Other... I'll miss my 17 button mouse. Hopefully I'll adjust to the game pad.
    Razer Naga? Great mouse.

    Personally during the console beta, I liked the gamepad controls a lot more than PC controls, even with the Naga.

    Mad Catz MMO 7. I never could get the hang of the Naga's thumb button placement. That is the (probably only) thing the MMO 7 has over the Naga: every single button is unmistakably different... after the first couple of days you never ever hit the wrong button.
  • Mettaricana
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    Lack of text chat.
    my pros over rule my cons i can finally give elbows a rest from pc chair just lay back on the bed chill and play and other fun thing game issues will apply to everyone not just the ones with the wrong gfx card or just slightly less ram.
  • pecheckler
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    Lack of quality of life add-on features
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    pecheckler wrote:
    Reduced graphics detail, longer loading times and other hardware limitations of consoles.
    That's completely male bovine *** matter and false.
    The console version plays at between high-ultra settings (which is likely above what the average ESO player's settings are), and the load time was VERY quick during beta. Much quicker than my PC did.

    Now, back to on topic:

    Lack of text chat.
    PSN/Xbox handles instead of character names.

    Both of those are going to be annoying. Picked lack of text chat though.
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    I have played the console beta directly next to the PC version at 1080p ultra settings without even using sweetfx or ESO launcher graphics enhancer and there was still a very noticeable difference, especially when looking at character model face detail. I'm not trying to say that the console graphics details are not impressive considering it would take a PC twice the cost of an console to achieve that, but that doesn't negate the fact that there is a graphics detail loss at the same resolution, which is why I included it in the poll. Plus the poll item lists all hardware limitations. That could mean limitations on future content as well, or the 30fps limit which some PvPers have complained about.

    You could have been civil about it and just state what we've seen in the beta, which is that there is about a 15% graphics detail loss compared to maximum PC capabilities, plus the reduced fog/visibility distance (which appears to dynamically change on console).

    And for anyone reading our discussion here. Do not judge the graphics detail difference based off youtube comparisons. The videos uploaded were first compressed by xbox or ps4 and then compressed again by youtube.
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • StaticWax
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    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.
    I wish nothing but joy for everyone.
  • Yukian
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    Lack of quality of life add-on features
    The graphics detail loss on console will be fairly small. No real need to include it tbh. Anyways... i will miss the minimap and skyshard icons. XD.
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  • PKMN12
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    StaticWax wrote: »
    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.

    .......how?

    EVERYTHING you can do on the console version, you can do on PC once they add in controller support.....
  • liammozzb16_ESO
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    PKMN12 wrote: »
    StaticWax wrote: »
    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.

    .......how?

    EVERYTHING you can do on the console version, you can do on PC once they add in controller support.....

    because its console nuff said
  • Psychobunni
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    I played all the TES games before this on console, but I can't downgrade from here. If for some reason I did, it would be the addons I would miss most.

    and text chat...voice only :thinks of my teenagers and shudders: no way jose
    Edited by Psychobunni on May 30, 2015 1:12AM
    If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!

  • pecheckler
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    Lack of quality of life add-on features
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    StaticWax wrote: »
    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.

    .......how?

    EVERYTHING you can do on the console version, you can do on PC once they add in controller support.....

    Well I can't say I feel that way. Plus "can do" implies that only some players may participate in an activity that only gets better as more of the player base participates.

    For example group finder. We all know the group finder will be used by the vast majority of console players. It's fast, effective, and well designed. The console version however has been confirmed by Zenimax support as not working and a "known issue". Six months have passed since it was broke by a patch, not fixed, and the PC community has moved on to form groups old-school. Even if this functional console feature is returned to PC then the player population will still be split, resulting in still long queue times. Hopefully that all made sense....

    Also, controller support for PC with appropriate UI. Once this is implemented we all know full-well that there is going to be negativity toward players who use controllers and therefore have reduced reaction time. FFXIV players can attest to this. So, on console we'll have everyone on the same controllers thus this negativity will not exist. Not to mention the negativity about people expecting end-game players to post their DPS numbers and use that number as a pre-requisite to being allowed to participate.

    I'm a serious PC gamer been one for 20 years and have a stupidly expensive setup, but i'll still jump on board with console as long as it is a more enjoyable experience. I just hope Zenimax sells a console to PC transfer service by the year's end for when I want to switch back.
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • Iselin
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    PKMN12 wrote: »
    StaticWax wrote: »
    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.

    .......how?

    EVERYTHING you can do on the console version, you can do on PC once they add in controller support.....

    Except chat using the one piece of software everyone playing it already has pre-installed in their console... until they also add built-in voice chat to the PC.

    I think people who don't PVP or don't do trials continue to underestimate the importance of voice comm when trying to play MMOs at a higher level than that allowed by text.
  • PKMN12
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    Iselin wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    StaticWax wrote: »
    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.

    .......how?

    EVERYTHING you can do on the console version, you can do on PC once they add in controller support.....

    Except chat using the one piece of software everyone playing it already has pre-installed in their console... until they also add built-in voice chat to the PC.

    I think people who don't PVP or don't do trials continue to underestimate the importance of voice comm when trying to play MMOs at a higher level than that allowed by text.

    yeah....and they have said they are going to add it. besides. do you NOT know about the million different voice chat programs?
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    None of these options apply to a vote for me but if you added PTS that would be my vote
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on May 30, 2015 1:23AM
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  • liammozzb16_ESO
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    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Iselin wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    StaticWax wrote: »
    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.

    .......how?

    EVERYTHING you can do on the console version, you can do on PC once they add in controller support.....

    Except chat using the one piece of software everyone playing it already has pre-installed in their console... until they also add built-in voice chat to the PC.

    I think people who don't PVP or don't do trials continue to underestimate the importance of voice comm when trying to play MMOs at a higher level than that allowed by text.

    yeah....and they have said they are going to add it. besides. do you NOT know about the million different voice chat programs?

    vent and mummble? no thanks its a pain in the ass connect to this server with group 1 then another with the next group and so on and so on.

    console you group you chat nice and simple
  • Iselin
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    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Iselin wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    StaticWax wrote: »
    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.

    .......how?

    EVERYTHING you can do on the console version, you can do on PC once they add in controller support.....

    Except chat using the one piece of software everyone playing it already has pre-installed in their console... until they also add built-in voice chat to the PC.

    I think people who don't PVP or don't do trials continue to underestimate the importance of voice comm when trying to play MMOs at a higher level than that allowed by text.

    yeah....and they have said they are going to add it. besides. do you NOT know about the million different voice chat programs?

    You answered your own question: " ...the million different..." Everyone should just used TS but every other guild out there doesn't.
  • StaticWax
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    PKMN12 wrote: »
    StaticWax wrote: »
    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.

    .......how?

    EVERYTHING you can do on the console version, you can do on PC once they add in controller support.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtvgXAykIac
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  • Valen_Byte
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    All of the above. : )

    Therefore, I will not be switching.
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  • Naivefanboi
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    Lack of text chat.
    I find all the features listed useful and equally important
  • ZeroInspiration
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    Yukian wrote: »
    The graphics detail loss on console will be fairly small. No real need to include it tbh. Anyways... i will miss the minimap and skyshard icons. XD.
    Skyshards and Lorebook markers will be the only thing I will miss. But I'm sure my experience with the console will be better than on PC simply because it will be easier to switch weapons.
  • Ffastyl
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    PSN/Xbox handles instead of character names.
    Iselin wrote: »
    I think people who don't PVP or don't do trials continue to underestimate the importance of voice comm when trying to play MMOs at a higher level than that allowed by text.
    Voice chat is arguably invaluable for explaining mechanics, strategy, tactics, and everything to bad players and marginally helpful to average players. To good players, my experience in Dragonstar Arena, Veteran Dragonstar Arena, and Aetherian Archive tells me voice chat is an excuse to narrow focus, a hinderance. TS using groups have made it to round 3 in Veteran Dragonstar Arena while a text-only reached round 10. I have not run Hel Ra Citadel or Sanctum Ophidia without voice chat yet, so I will not comment there.
    StaticWax wrote: »
    I'm will miss nothing. The console version is superior.
    I purposely missed the ship because my social bonds tie me to the inferior PC community.
    There a couple add-ons for book keeping and UI removal I may miss, but overall I am thinking more and more that I should have abandoned my friends and caught that ship.
    Edited by Ffastyl on May 30, 2015 4:17AM
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  • Heromofo
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    Lack of quality of life add-on features
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    pecheckler wrote:
    Reduced graphics detail, longer loading times and other hardware limitations of consoles.
    That's completely male bovine *** matter and false.
    The console version plays at between high-ultra settings (which is likely above what the average ESO player's settings are), and the load time was VERY quick during beta. Much quicker than my PC did.

    Now, back to on topic:

    Lack of text chat.
    PSN/Xbox handles instead of character names.

    Both of those are going to be annoying. Picked lack of text chat though.
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    Agreed very bias poll but i will vote anyway zos can barely keep the game from falling to pieces and alot of addons should not be required but are very much needed due to lazy design . I am trying to get them to let modders step in see page 55 of ask us anything because if they want to focus on colouring mounts thats fine let us do the work and submit it to them for testing.

    All they have to do is open up the game and tool set to us and give us a section of the forums to submit ideas. Like with first person riding its a total of 23 lines of code to add it in. Yet all we get is " we would like to add it in the future".

    Sorry just angry atm after seeing the state of the game when i logged in last night no wonder pc players are so ticked off as they should not have to put up with this.
    Edited by Heromofo on May 30, 2015 4:44AM
  • Nebthet78
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    Their controller layout and lack of being able to customize it to what you want.
    Far too many characters to list any more.
  • Iselin
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    Ffastyl wrote: »
    Iselin wrote: »
    I think people who don't PVP or don't do trials continue to underestimate the importance of voice comm when trying to play MMOs at a higher level than that allowed by text.
    Voice chat is arguably invaluable for explaining mechanics, strategy, tactics, and everything to bad players and marginally helpful to average players. To good players, my experience in Dragonstar Arena, Veteran Dragonstar Arena, and Aetherian Archive tells me voice chat is an excuse to narrow focus, a hinderance. TS using groups have made it to round 3 in Veteran Dragonstar Arena while a text-only reached round 10. I have not run Hel Ra Citadel or Sanctum Ophidia without voice chat yet, so I will not comment there.

    Well you're entitled to whatever prejudice you wish to have but you'll have a hard time convincing me (and most other people) that faster and more natural communication is not always better.
  • Earelith
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    Reduced graphics detail, longer loading times and other hardware limitations of consoles.
    I voted graphics while I am not sure if they are worse than pc or not..some beta players say that they are no difference while others say that they noticed the difference..I guess it depends on what pc you have..

    Also in the vote option "and other hardware", I hope it does not mean the controller, cause I love the controller :)
    Edited by Earelith on May 30, 2015 5:22AM
  • traigusb14_ESO2
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    Awful poll.
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