If ZoS sold additional character slots what is the most you would pay per slot?

Aneima

I would not buy more slots

8 slots are more than enough for me. I use 4 for the classes I play and 4 to hold all my crafting materials. I upgraded bags on all my alts and I have every craft maxed out to LVL 50. If I ever choose to play an alt I made sure to pick a name for each one according to my liking along with the right race, class, etc.

But for those who want more I am for them being able to purchase extras slots if that's what they want.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

$3.51 to $4.25

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?

One of each class in each faction?

All The Best

BBSooner

Odd choice in pricing. I'd pay up to $10 each, if I had a reason to want another slot. Not because of some silly "I'm supporting the game!" or money lacking importance like the last option denotes. $10 for another slot is fair and inexpensive imo, and if I really wanted one I'd spend it.

Though at the moment I don't have a reason to want another slot.

Tandor

I would pay more than $6.25 because I want to support the game and money isn't that important.

It's nonsensical to claim that the ability to buy extra character slots is P2W.

In EQ2 you can buy extra slots for 800 DBC (used to be SC), which costs either side of £6 depending on whether you buy the DBC in bulk. What's that worth today, about $10?

I'd certainly buy a couple of extra slots on that basis. Mine are all used and I wish I'd had the wit to buy a second box when they were so cheap before they were withdrawn from sale pending the switch to TU. However, extra slots have the advantage of being more easily managed on the one account with the shared bank, against which with a second account you obviously benefit from a second bank inventory. I'd personally prefer a couple of extra slots on my existing account than the hassle of running two accounts.

The poll options are ridiculously low priced and narrow banded.

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?



IN OTHER WORDS NEED MOAR CLASSES!!!!!!!!!!

See I would see the classes disappear to become classless but still more slots

Aneima wrote: »

8 slots are more than enough for me. I use 4 for the classes I play and 4 to hold all my crafting materials. I upgraded bags on all my alts and I have every craft maxed out to LVL 50. If I ever choose to play an alt I made sure to pick a name for each one according to my liking along with the right race, class, etc.

But for those who want more I am for them being able to purchase extras slots if that's what they want.

Thanks for the feedback!

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?

One of each class in each faction?

All The Best

Thats 12, then if you want a magicka and a stamina of each class for each factions (I'm not that bad...) That could be 24...for me it is 12 + rp characters + experimental characters (trying out new race/class combinations) ...

BBSooner wrote: »

Odd choice in pricing. I'd pay up to $10 each, if I had a reason to want another slot. Not because of some silly "I'm supporting the game!" or money lacking importance like the last option denotes. $10 for another slot is fair and inexpensive imo, and if I really wanted one I'd spend it.

Though at the moment I don't have a reason to want another slot.

@BBSooner the reason for the pricing is that a new copy of the game is $50 and you can buy boxed versions New for $30 this creates a price cap. Why would someone (unless they are "supporting the game" pick a higher price than 8 slots from a new box for $30, I can see paying more for the convince of not having to drive to the store ...but outside of generosity there is no reason to pay more than the box value price per slot. Why would you pay more than that?

Tandor wrote: »

It's nonsensical to claim that the ability to buy extra character slots is P2W.

In EQ2 you can buy extra slots for 800 DBC (used to be SC), which costs either side of £6 depending on whether you buy the DBC in bulk. What's that worth today, about $10?

I'd certainly buy a couple of extra slots on that basis. Mine are all used and I wish I'd had the wit to buy a second box when they were so cheap before they were withdrawn from sale pending the switch to TU. However, extra slots have the advantage of being more easily managed on the one account with the shared bank, against which with a second account you obviously benefit from a second bank inventory. I'd personally prefer a couple of extra slots on my existing account than the hassle of running two accounts.

The poll options are ridiculously low priced and narrow banded.

@Tandor thanks for sharing. I am curious why you think it is ridiculously low priced? You think a fair price is greater than the second account option (8 slots from second account divided by purchase price). I would go so far as to say it is high priced....because that box price also includes the lisence for a user (and the bandwidth to support that user) the use of the game and other things of value that an extra slot does not include.

SHADOW2KK

I would not buy more slots

8 is IMO too much as it is, if it were more classes then aye maybe, but I already have 1 of each class.

Don`t want more character slots, what is the point? hehe

BBSooner

Faugaun wrote: »

@BBSooner the reason for the pricing is that a new copy of the game is $50 and you can buy boxed versions New for $30 this creates a price cap. Why would someone (unless they are "supporting the game" pick a higher price than 8 slots from a new box for $30, I can see paying more for the convince of not having to drive to the store ...but outside of generosity there is no reason to pay more than the box value price per slot. Why would you pay more than that?

Because even at $10 it's still inexpensive.

And box value per slot is irrellevant. That standard for any other aspect of the game would be silly, and applying it to character slots is just as silly.

Nobody would expect:
A new race to coincide with box value.
A new zone to coincide with box value.
A new instance to coincide with box value.
A new weapon type to coincide with box value.
A new class to coincide with box value.
A new costume to coincide with box value.
A new motiff to coincide with box value.
A new guild slot to coincide with box value.
Additional slots on ignore/friend list to coincide with box value.

Extra features like this rarely coincide with box value. Some do, and some will, but that's more happenstance than a direct correlation.

Edit: On a semi-related note, the way Sage fights the addition of character slots it makes me think that they are hardcoded 1-8 slots, instead of something that can be dynamically added. I would guess they're saving a schema rewrite like that for when it can be properly monetized with a new class or something.

UrQuan

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure why people want more than 8 slots cause there is really no point in making more than 8 characters.

There are 10 playable races, and only 8 character slots.

Audigy wrote: »

I hope this never comes as a paid service, its too much P2W. The advantages that you can gain with additional slots is huge. Same applies to bank slots, such things should never be put into a shop, it ruins the game as we know from other MMOs.

Then surely you also believe that being able to buy a second account is P2W. If not, please explain the difference.

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

BBSooner wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

@BBSooner the reason for the pricing is that a new copy of the game is $50 and you can buy boxed versions New for $30 this creates a price cap. Why would someone (unless they are "supporting the game" pick a higher price than 8 slots from a new box for $30, I can see paying more for the convince of not having to drive to the store ...but outside of generosity there is no reason to pay more than the box value price per slot. Why would you pay more than that?

Because even at $10 it's still inexpensive.

And box value per slot is irrellevant. That standard for any other aspect of the game would be silly, and applying it to character slots is just as silly.

Nobody would expect:
A new race to coincide with box value.
A new zone to coincide with box value.
A new instance to coincide with box value.
A new weapon type to coincide with box value.
A new class to coincide with box value.
A new costume to coincide with box value.
A new motiff to coincide with box value.
A new guild slot to coincide with box value.
Additional slots on ignore/friend list to coincide with box value.

Extra features like this rarely coincide with box value. Some do, and some will, but that's more happenstance than a direct correlation.

Edit: On a semi-related note, the way Sage fights the addition of character slots it makes me think that they are hardcoded 1-8 slots, instead of something that can be dynamically added. I would guess they're saving a schema rewrite like that for when it can be properly monetized with a new class or something.

Oh, gosh if they hardcoded that...well that would be a huge oops, surely that's not the case....but even looking at this and the other survey it seems about 50% of the player base would be willing to pay money for more slots and 50% have a desire to do so. Even at $1 a slot half the player base * whatever the average buy would be (maybe 4 extra???) That's gotta be a pretty big chuck of change enough to motivate a rewrite to eliminate a hardcode like that. This should be entirely database driven...

AH93

I would not buy more slots

I will not buy more character slots if it is ever an option, so £0 to me.

Tandor

I would pay more than $6.25 because I want to support the game and money isn't that important.

Faugaun wrote: »

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?



IN OTHER WORDS NEED MOAR CLASSES!!!!!!!!!!

See I would see the classes disappear to become classless but still more slots

Aneima wrote: »

8 slots are more than enough for me. I use 4 for the classes I play and 4 to hold all my crafting materials. I upgraded bags on all my alts and I have every craft maxed out to LVL 50. If I ever choose to play an alt I made sure to pick a name for each one according to my liking along with the right race, class, etc.

But for those who want more I am for them being able to purchase extras slots if that's what they want.

Thanks for the feedback!

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?

One of each class in each faction?

All The Best

Thats 12, then if you want a magicka and a stamina of each class for each factions (I'm not that bad...) That could be 24...for me it is 12 + rp characters + experimental characters (trying out new race/class combinations) ...

BBSooner wrote: »

Odd choice in pricing. I'd pay up to $10 each, if I had a reason to want another slot. Not because of some silly "I'm supporting the game!" or money lacking importance like the last option denotes. $10 for another slot is fair and inexpensive imo, and if I really wanted one I'd spend it.

Though at the moment I don't have a reason to want another slot.

@BBSooner the reason for the pricing is that a new copy of the game is $50 and you can buy boxed versions New for $30 this creates a price cap. Why would someone (unless they are "supporting the game" pick a higher price than 8 slots from a new box for $30, I can see paying more for the convince of not having to drive to the store ...but outside of generosity there is no reason to pay more than the box value price per slot. Why would you pay more than that?

Tandor wrote: »

It's nonsensical to claim that the ability to buy extra character slots is P2W.

In EQ2 you can buy extra slots for 800 DBC (used to be SC), which costs either side of £6 depending on whether you buy the DBC in bulk. What's that worth today, about $10?

I'd certainly buy a couple of extra slots on that basis. Mine are all used and I wish I'd had the wit to buy a second box when they were so cheap before they were withdrawn from sale pending the switch to TU. However, extra slots have the advantage of being more easily managed on the one account with the shared bank, against which with a second account you obviously benefit from a second bank inventory. I'd personally prefer a couple of extra slots on my existing account than the hassle of running two accounts.

The poll options are ridiculously low priced and narrow banded.

@Tandor thanks for sharing. I am curious why you think it is ridiculously low priced? You think a fair price is greater than the second account option (8 slots from second account divided by purchase price). I would go so far as to say it is high priced....because that box price also includes the lisence for a user (and the bandwidth to support that user) the use of the game and other things of value that an extra slot does not include.

Currently 11% would pay less than $2.75 for a character slot. I'm not American so I wouldn't know, what can you buy in the real world for $2.75? I just think 8 bands covering the range $1.25 to $6.25 (I'm guessing that's between about 75p and £4 in my money) is too many.

There's no direct connection in marketing terms between the price of extra character slots and the price of the box, nothing that says because you get 8 slots plus a whole lot more with the box therefore the price of one slot must be a lot less than one eighth the cost of the box. If the box is currently about $50 then people would easily pay $10 per slot if they only wanted one or two rather than have to pay $50 for the box when all they wanted was a couple of character slots. If they wanted more than that they'd consider buying the box, but most buyers would probably only be looking for an extra slot or two, those looking for a lot more would already have bought a second account anyway.

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

UrQuan wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure why people want more than 8 slots cause there is really no point in making more than 8 characters.

There are 10 playable races, and only 8 character slots.

Audigy wrote: »

I hope this never comes as a paid service, its too much P2W. The advantages that you can gain with additional slots is huge. Same applies to bank slots, such things should never be put into a shop, it ruins the game as we know from other MMOs.

Then surely you also believe that being able to buy a second account is P2W. If not, please explain the difference.

@UrQuan Don't forget 4 classes and 3 factions ....thats 120 unique combinations.

@AH93 Thanks for the comment! Would you be opposed to someone else having the option?

Tandor wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?



IN OTHER WORDS NEED MOAR CLASSES!!!!!!!!!!

See I would see the classes disappear to become classless but still more slots

Aneima wrote: »

8 slots are more than enough for me. I use 4 for the classes I play and 4 to hold all my crafting materials. I upgraded bags on all my alts and I have every craft maxed out to LVL 50. If I ever choose to play an alt I made sure to pick a name for each one according to my liking along with the right race, class, etc.

But for those who want more I am for them being able to purchase extras slots if that's what they want.

Thanks for the feedback!

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?

One of each class in each faction?

All The Best

Thats 12, then if you want a magicka and a stamina of each class for each factions (I'm not that bad...) That could be 24...for me it is 12 + rp characters + experimental characters (trying out new race/class combinations) ...

BBSooner wrote: »

Odd choice in pricing. I'd pay up to $10 each, if I had a reason to want another slot. Not because of some silly "I'm supporting the game!" or money lacking importance like the last option denotes. $10 for another slot is fair and inexpensive imo, and if I really wanted one I'd spend it.

Though at the moment I don't have a reason to want another slot.

@BBSooner the reason for the pricing is that a new copy of the game is $50 and you can buy boxed versions New for $30 this creates a price cap. Why would someone (unless they are "supporting the game" pick a higher price than 8 slots from a new box for $30, I can see paying more for the convince of not having to drive to the store ...but outside of generosity there is no reason to pay more than the box value price per slot. Why would you pay more than that?

Tandor wrote: »

It's nonsensical to claim that the ability to buy extra character slots is P2W.

In EQ2 you can buy extra slots for 800 DBC (used to be SC), which costs either side of £6 depending on whether you buy the DBC in bulk. What's that worth today, about $10?

I'd certainly buy a couple of extra slots on that basis. Mine are all used and I wish I'd had the wit to buy a second box when they were so cheap before they were withdrawn from sale pending the switch to TU. However, extra slots have the advantage of being more easily managed on the one account with the shared bank, against which with a second account you obviously benefit from a second bank inventory. I'd personally prefer a couple of extra slots on my existing account than the hassle of running two accounts.

The poll options are ridiculously low priced and narrow banded.

@Tandor thanks for sharing. I am curious why you think it is ridiculously low priced? You think a fair price is greater than the second account option (8 slots from second account divided by purchase price). I would go so far as to say it is high priced....because that box price also includes the lisence for a user (and the bandwidth to support that user) the use of the game and other things of value that an extra slot does not include.

Currently 11% would pay less than $2.75 for a character slot. I'm not American so I wouldn't know, what can you buy in the real world for $2.75? I just think 8 bands covering the range $1.25 to $6.25 (I'm guessing that's between about 75p and £4 in my money) is too many.

There's no direct connection in marketing terms between the price of extra character slots and the price of the box, nothing that says because you get 8 slots plus a whole lot more with the box therefore the price of one slot must be a lot less than one eighth the cost of the box. If the box is currently about $50 then people would easily pay $10 per slot if they only wanted one or two rather than have to pay $50 for the box when all they wanted was a couple of character slots. If they wanted more than that they'd consider buying the box, but most buyers would probably only be looking for an extra slot or two, those looking for a lot more would already have bought a second account anyway.

@Tandor looking out the window 1 gallon (3.75 liters) of gasoline costs $2.19 if that helps put it in perspective.

AH93

I would not buy more slots

Tandor wrote: »

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Faugaun wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure why people want more than 8 slots cause there is really no point in making more than 8 characters.

There are 10 playable races, and only 8 character slots.

Audigy wrote: »

I hope this never comes as a paid service, its too much P2W. The advantages that you can gain with additional slots is huge. Same applies to bank slots, such things should never be put into a shop, it ruins the game as we know from other MMOs.

Then surely you also believe that being able to buy a second account is P2W. If not, please explain the difference.

@UrQuan Don't forget 4 classes and 3 factions ....thats 120 unique combinations.

@AH93 Thanks for the comment! Would you be opposed to someone else having the option?

Tandor wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?



IN OTHER WORDS NEED MOAR CLASSES!!!!!!!!!!

See I would see the classes disappear to become classless but still more slots

Aneima wrote: »

8 slots are more than enough for me. I use 4 for the classes I play and 4 to hold all my crafting materials. I upgraded bags on all my alts and I have every craft maxed out to LVL 50. If I ever choose to play an alt I made sure to pick a name for each one according to my liking along with the right race, class, etc.

But for those who want more I am for them being able to purchase extras slots if that's what they want.

Thanks for the feedback!

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?

One of each class in each faction?

All The Best

Thats 12, then if you want a magicka and a stamina of each class for each factions (I'm not that bad...) That could be 24...for me it is 12 + rp characters + experimental characters (trying out new race/class combinations) ...

BBSooner wrote: »

Odd choice in pricing. I'd pay up to $10 each, if I had a reason to want another slot. Not because of some silly "I'm supporting the game!" or money lacking importance like the last option denotes. $10 for another slot is fair and inexpensive imo, and if I really wanted one I'd spend it.

Though at the moment I don't have a reason to want another slot.

@BBSooner the reason for the pricing is that a new copy of the game is $50 and you can buy boxed versions New for $30 this creates a price cap. Why would someone (unless they are "supporting the game" pick a higher price than 8 slots from a new box for $30, I can see paying more for the convince of not having to drive to the store ...but outside of generosity there is no reason to pay more than the box value price per slot. Why would you pay more than that?

Tandor wrote: »

It's nonsensical to claim that the ability to buy extra character slots is P2W.

In EQ2 you can buy extra slots for 800 DBC (used to be SC), which costs either side of £6 depending on whether you buy the DBC in bulk. What's that worth today, about $10?

I'd certainly buy a couple of extra slots on that basis. Mine are all used and I wish I'd had the wit to buy a second box when they were so cheap before they were withdrawn from sale pending the switch to TU. However, extra slots have the advantage of being more easily managed on the one account with the shared bank, against which with a second account you obviously benefit from a second bank inventory. I'd personally prefer a couple of extra slots on my existing account than the hassle of running two accounts.

The poll options are ridiculously low priced and narrow banded.

@Tandor thanks for sharing. I am curious why you think it is ridiculously low priced? You think a fair price is greater than the second account option (8 slots from second account divided by purchase price). I would go so far as to say it is high priced....because that box price also includes the lisence for a user (and the bandwidth to support that user) the use of the game and other things of value that an extra slot does not include.

Currently 11% would pay less than $2.75 for a character slot. I'm not American so I wouldn't know, what can you buy in the real world for $2.75? I just think 8 bands covering the range $1.25 to $6.25 (I'm guessing that's between about 75p and £4 in my money) is too many.

There's no direct connection in marketing terms between the price of extra character slots and the price of the box, nothing that says because you get 8 slots plus a whole lot more with the box therefore the price of one slot must be a lot less than one eighth the cost of the box. If the box is currently about $50 then people would easily pay $10 per slot if they only wanted one or two rather than have to pay $50 for the box when all they wanted was a couple of character slots. If they wanted more than that they'd consider buying the box, but most buyers would probably only be looking for an extra slot or two, those looking for a lot more would already have bought a second account anyway.

@Tandor looking out the window 1 gallon (3.75 liters) of gasoline costs $2.19 if that helps put it in perspective.

No I wouldn't be opposed to the option being there for other people, I think it's a fairly reasonable service for players that like to make tons of characters, I just wouldn't purchase any more slots than the default setting.

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

@AH93 Excellent and Thanks again!

@Tamdor I guess I can kinda see your point that not many players want 8 (based on the other survey) so if the options are 3 characters for $30 vs 8 for $50 then I might choose the 3. I'm in a slightly different catagory in that I do want 8 ...or more.. I don't want another account (because I do buy cosmetic stuff and want access to all that) but if its priced at $10 per then I am likely going to buy the $30 box get 8 and buy less in the crown store because I'm not happy with that treatment. Either way ZoS prolly gets $30 from me but depending on how I do it (which is based on the options available) it could negatively impact future spending (dunno if I'm alone on that stance ...if I am then ZoS probably doesn't care, but if a decent subset of players is of similar mind then it could be something to tread carefully with.

Tandor

I would pay more than $6.25 because I want to support the game and money isn't that important.

Faugaun wrote: »

@AH93 Excellent and Thanks again!

@Tamdor I guess I can kinda see your point that not many players want 8 (based on the other survey) so if the options are 3 characters for $30 vs 8 for $50 then I might choose the 3. I'm in a slightly different catagory in that I do want 8 ...or more.. I don't want another account (because I do buy cosmetic stuff and want access to all that) but if its priced at $10 per then I am likely going to buy the $30 box get 8 and buy less in the crown store because I'm not happy with that treatment. Either way ZoS prolly gets $30 from me but depending on how I do it (which is based on the options available) it could negatively impact future spending (dunno if I'm alone on that stance ...if I am then ZoS probably doesn't care, but if a decent subset of players is of similar mind then it could be something to tread carefully with.

The obvious solution to that is to have a sliding scale based on how many slots you're buying - say from $10 for one slot to $30 for 8 slots.

We mustn't forget the technical aspect of this. It isn't just a case of putting the item up in the Crown Store, the character screen has to be altered to fit in the other slots and the database has to be capable of containing all the extra character information. I recall those sorts of issues being raised by developers when extra slots have been asked for in other games. It isn't an insuperable problem necessarily, but it does raise issues over and above listing stuff in the Crown Store. However, it's such an obvious money-spinner that what would probably be rejected as impractical by P2P developers becomes extremely worthwhile with B2P/F2P and therefore pretty inevitable.

SturgeHammer

$5.76 to $6.25

Being a realist here, but if they offer this it will most likely be at a steep premium. My guess would be that slots will not be sold at a per slot rate anyway, but in packs because it would encourage people to continue playing (and paying) more than what the quick fix of a single slot would allow. I speculate a 2 pack of slots for $15 or 3 slots for $20.

UrQuan

Tandor wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

@AH93 Excellent and Thanks again!

@Tamdor I guess I can kinda see your point that not many players want 8 (based on the other survey) so if the options are 3 characters for $30 vs 8 for $50 then I might choose the 3. I'm in a slightly different catagory in that I do want 8 ...or more.. I don't want another account (because I do buy cosmetic stuff and want access to all that) but if its priced at $10 per then I am likely going to buy the $30 box get 8 and buy less in the crown store because I'm not happy with that treatment. Either way ZoS prolly gets $30 from me but depending on how I do it (which is based on the options available) it could negatively impact future spending (dunno if I'm alone on that stance ...if I am then ZoS probably doesn't care, but if a decent subset of players is of similar mind then it could be something to tread carefully with.

The obvious solution to that is to have a sliding scale based on how many slots you're buying - say from $10 for one slot to $30 for 8 slots.

We mustn't forget the technical aspect of this. It isn't just a case of putting the item up in the Crown Store, the character screen has to be altered to fit in the other slots and the database has to be capable of containing all the extra character information. I recall those sorts of issues being raised by developers when extra slots have been asked for in other games. It isn't an insuperable problem necessarily, but it does raise issues over and above listing stuff in the Crown Store. However, it's such an obvious money-spinner that what would probably be rejected as impractical by P2P developers becomes extremely worthwhile with B2P/F2P and therefore pretty inevitable.

As to the bolded part, depending on how they set up their database tables, it could be very difficult to allow them to give people more character slots, or it could be very easy.

If, for example, the table for the account info basically looks something like this:
Primary Key__AccountID__AccountPassword__AccountEmail
123456______@Ur-Quan___FakePassword1____fakeemail@email.com

While the table for the character info looks something like this (where the foreign key is the primary key of the account the character is associated with, and the primary key for this table is a composite key consisting of the foreign key and the character number):
Foreign Key__Character#__CharacterName__CharacterRace__CharacterClass
123456______1____________Caius Drusus____Imperial_________Dragonknight

Then it would be easy from a database perspective to add as many character slots as you want, by simply adding rows to the second table.

If, on the other hand, the table for the account info looks more like this:
Primary Key__AccountID__AccountPassword__AccountEmail_________CharSlot1__....__CharSlot8
123456______@Ur-Quan___FakePassword1____fakeemail@email.com_Caius___________Manut

Then from a database perspective it's much more complicated to add additional character slots to an account.

Of course, that's aside from the potential issues of database storage space and performance, which would also play a role in this.

Edit: dang, that lined up nicely when I was writing the post, but it didn't line up at all when the post was submitted. Let me try to fix that.

Victus

Yeah again, can't say how much I'd be willing to pay yet as I'm not sure if/how many I'd like. As it is I do not have a Bosmer, Nord or Imperial character yet (though my Argonian Templar I'd consider rerolling or race changing) I probably would like to play them at some point. Right now I have my main and 3 primary alts (all lvl 40 or higher) so I'm happy with that.

PKMN12

$5.01 to $5.75

General_Kefka wrote: »

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?



IN OTHER WORDS NEED MOAR CLASSES!!!!!!!!!!

you forgot faction........................you would need at LEAST 4 more so you could have one of each class for each faction.

qsnoopyjr

$1.25 or less

Kinda dumb poll.

Why on earth would you pay more than the lowest listing?

To be honest, all those that put the $5 option, they picked it because its the norm.

Game should do $5 and follow the norm because that's what people expect..

But if you ask me if I'd rather pay $5 or $1.25 or less.... Ummm what you think I'm going to pick?? Of course I'll do the $1.25 or less.

Its like asking me... You want to get paid $39,000 a year.. Or $139,000 a year??
I'm not going to pick the norm $39,000 a year.. I'm picking the $139,000 a year.

Danikat

$2.01 to $2.75

Something I'm curious about: If offering extra character slots is a major P2W issue that would ruin the game how do you explain all the people saying they don't use the 8 they've got now?

Surely if extra characters game you a significant advantage it would be in everyone's interest to use all the slots, even if they only actually play 1 character.

Wyietsayon

I would not buy more slots

I'd prefer something that removes the utility of bank alts. It seems silly and like an exploit that they are so widely used. I'm not sure how to avoid it though, without harming the necessary money sinks in expanding inventory space, or preventing items from being freely transfer between characters, both of which are needed.

But if we could get rid of the need to make bank alts, then people could use their 8 character slots for actual use.

Also, maybe a small salon/saved character spot. I'm thinking of the people who just like to play with the character editor, but not actually play with those characters. If we could have a system that, after designed a character, you could save them in a design/preset vault, sort of like in Sims, then they could make more characters, and avoid filling all 8 slots. If they want to try one of those characters in game, for better lighting/scenery or whatever, they could just select it from the vault and use a character slot for that character. Then run around, take their pics, and delete the slot when they are done, without losing the character design. There's still the max character deletions per day thing, to prevent bots. But then rpers and artists are happy.

wrlifeboil

Not many people will buy additional character slots, just the more intense ESO gamers. Additional character slots are mainly for experienced mmo gamers who like to have the option of playing many different styles or builds or need more bank toons or mules for storage.

Most players new to mmos don't roll that many alts.

My guess is that new character slots will be priced at 1500 crowns or $15 USD equivalent based on some other mmos.

wrlifeboil

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Kinda dumb poll.

Why on earth would you pay more than the lowest listing?

To be honest, all those that put the $5 option, they picked it because its the norm.

Game should do $5 and follow the norm because that's what people expect..

But if you ask me if I'd rather pay $5 or $1.25 or less.... Ummm what you think I'm going to pick?? Of course I'll do the $1.25 or less.

Its like asking me... You want to get paid $39,000 a year.. Or $139,000 a year??
I'm not going to pick the norm $39,000 a year.. I'm picking the $139,000 a year.

I'd like to know where the op got the prices for his poll too. Does any mmo on the planet Earth charge only $1.25 for an additional character slot?

UrQuan

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Not many people will buy additional character slots, just the more intense ESO gamers. Additional character slots are mainly for experienced mmo gamers who like to have the option of playing many different styles or builds or need more bank toons or mules for storage.

Most players new to mmos don't roll that many alts.

My guess is that new character slots will be priced at 1500 crowns or $15 USD equivalent based on some other mmos.

Um, I think I'm an anomaly. ESO is my first MMO, and I've got 2 accounts and 16 alts (none of whom are mules). I played previous TES games, and ironically when I had the ability to have as many different characters as I wanted, I didn't take advantage of it. I mean, in Skyrim I had a whopping 2 characters: my Dunmer that I created when I first got Skyrim on my PS3, and then my Nord that I created when I decided to get Skyrim on my PC (so I could use some mods).

Considering what an altaholic I am in ESO, it's really weird.

UrQuan

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Kinda dumb poll.

Why on earth would you pay more than the lowest listing?

To be honest, all those that put the $5 option, they picked it because its the norm.

Game should do $5 and follow the norm because that's what people expect..

But if you ask me if I'd rather pay $5 or $1.25 or less.... Ummm what you think I'm going to pick?? Of course I'll do the $1.25 or less.

Its like asking me... You want to get paid $39,000 a year.. Or $139,000 a year??
I'm not going to pick the norm $39,000 a year.. I'm picking the $139,000 a year.

I don't think you read the poll question very carefully. He didn't ask which price you would be happiest to see them offered for, or which price you'd rather pay. He asked which is the most you would pay. So if you pick $1.25 or less, then you're saying that if they offered extra character slots at $1.30 you wouldn't be willing to buy them (which may be accurate for you - I don't know).

Lord_Kreegan

$1.25 or less

Considering that the new character would be playing the same quests in the same zones that I've already played multiple times and I've already got two of each class, the only thing different would be the race.

I need a lizard, but it's not that important to me.

My cat tends to brings me lizards every night since it ran out of garter snakes, mice, and birds; so, really, a lizard isn't worth that much...

qsnoopyjr

$1.25 or less

UrQuan wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Kinda dumb poll.

Why on earth would you pay more than the lowest listing?

To be honest, all those that put the $5 option, they picked it because its the norm.

Game should do $5 and follow the norm because that's what people expect..

But if you ask me if I'd rather pay $5 or $1.25 or less.... Ummm what you think I'm going to pick?? Of course I'll do the $1.25 or less.

Its like asking me... You want to get paid $39,000 a year.. Or $139,000 a year??
I'm not going to pick the norm $39,000 a year.. I'm picking the $139,000 a year.

I don't think you read the poll question very carefully. He didn't ask which price you would be happiest to see them offered for, or which price you'd rather pay. He asked which is the most you would pay. So if you pick $1.25 or less, then you're saying that if they offered extra character slots at $1.30 you wouldn't be willing to buy them (which may be accurate for you - I don't know).

Ya that's accurate for me.
I don't spend any real $$$ on any game besides buying it and the expansion packs.

Nice thing about GW2 is that you can convert gold to gems (also gems to gold).
Wish this game offered the same thing, gold to crowns.

Right now if they had a gold to crown and crown to gold, I'd expect crowns to be dirt cheap, because there aint nothing good in the crown store. Probably 100 gold per crown, 100,000 gold per 1000 crowns. Heck maybe 50,000 gold per 1000 crowns or even less.

Only person wanting all those crowns are people who like to collect stuff, like they have to have every single pet and mount in the game.

But idk, you have to consider the crown hoarders too. Theres junk now, but perhaps in future there will be something nice.

MrGhosty

$1.25 or less

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure why people want more than 8 slots cause there is really no point in making more than 8 characters.
Unless someone wants one of each class on three factions which is fine but I don't think most people are using slots this way. Most want more instead of buying inventory and bank space

So just ask ZOS for crown bank slots

I would buy more character slots for a low price point as I've used my 8 and enjoy creating new characters, playing with different ideas and what have you. Also with the way PvP goes I wouldn't mind have a couple extra slots to make and delete characters to PvP in Blackwater blade without having to get rid of the characters i've invested a lot of time and gold into. This also seems like a simple(ish) feature which would make a fair amount of coin for ZOS without tiptoeing into the realm of pay to win or some of the other acronyms people are so afraid of.

Grunim

I would pay more than $6.25 because I want to support the game and money isn't that important.

SturgeHammer wrote: »

Being a realist here, but if they offer this it will most likely be at a steep premium. My guess would be that slots will not be sold at a per slot rate anyway, but in packs because it would encourage people to continue playing (and paying) more than what the quick fix of a single slot would allow. I speculate a 2 pack of slots for $15 or 3 slots for $20.

And those kind of prices don't even seem crazy to me because chances are if you wish to buy an additional character slot now, you'll probably want more later too.