If ZoS sold additional character slots what is the most you would pay per slot?

Faugaun

So quick math at $50 per game 8 slots are worth about $6.25. At the console transfer price 16 slots cost $20 or about $1.25 per slot. The options reflect the space between $6.25 and $1.25

There is a second poll related to this regarding how many slots you would purchase.

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

The other half is here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/169577/if-zos-sold-additional-character-slots-how-many-would-you-buy#latest

Please discuss your responses!

I think the most I would pony up is about 500 crowns obviously lower price would result in me buying more, perhaps an ideal price is 250-300 crowns

Arkadius

I would not buy more slots

8 slots are fine for me.

VictoriaRachel

$4.26 to $5.00

I thought the 16 character slots on Console was a bug and not a feature it will launch with.

However the 'maths' you have used is just misleading. Total cost divided by character number? Really? Because we only bought character slots? Might as well pull numbers from the air!

What you should be considering is crown values, and current crown costs. I can not see them selling them for any less than the crowns received from a months sub, so that is a 1500 crowns minimum. However, with their demand and limited supply I can also not see it being less than a mount so 2500 crowns.

Basically I think it is going to end up costing 2 months so £18. Your poll is far too low!

However what would I pay? $5, anything more than that I do not consider a micro-transaction. If my thoughts above are right it doesn't look like I will ever be buying one!

NewBlacksmurf

I would not buy more slots

Not sure why people want more than 8 slots cause there is really no point in making more than 8 characters.
Unless someone wants one of each class on three factions which is fine but I don't think most people are using slots this way. Most want more instead of buying inventory and bank space

So just ask ZOS for crown bank slots

Reb

I would pay more than $6.25 because I want to support the game and money isn't that important.

The consoles do not get 16 slots ...that was confirmed as a bug they get 8 slots just the same as pc

Danikat

$2.01 to $2.75

I don't think the $50 for 8 slots calculation is really accurate, because you're also getting the entire game for that price.

Personally I'd be willing to pay up to $3 per slot. But I'd likely buy at least 4 slots.

That gives me a total of 12: enough to have 1 character of each race, 1 mule and 1 slot free to experiment with. If any of those experimental characters became permanent I'd then buy a new experimental slot. (Yes I'm an altaholic.)

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

VictoriaRachel wrote: »

I thought the 16 character slots on Console was a bug and not a feature it will launch with.

However the 'maths' you have used is just misleading. Total cost divided by character number? Really? Because we only bought character slots? Might as well pull numbers from the air!

What you should be considering is crown values, and current crown costs. I can not see them selling them for any less than the crowns received from a months sub, so that is a 1500 crowns minimum. However, with their demand and limited supply I can also not see it being less than a mount so 2500 crowns.

Basically I think it is going to end up costing 2 months so £18. Your poll is far too low!

However what would I pay? $5, anything more than that I do not consider a micro-transaction. If my thoughts above are right it doesn't look like I will ever be buying one!

There is a nice discussion on this here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/169379/zos-why-can-i-not-buy-character-slots/p1

A lot of us feel that $6.25 is too high per slot because you in fact got a lot more per slot when you bought the game. I do not see how your 1500 or 2500 per slot is reasonable since the alternative would be to just buy a second account which caps the maximum value.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure why people want more than 8 slots cause there is really no point in making more than 8 characters.
Unless someone wants one of each class on three factions which is fine but I don't think most people are using slots this way. Most want more instead of buying inventory and bank space

So just ask ZOS for crown bank slots

Some of us are alt-a-holics and we use lots of characters for role playing.

Reb wrote: »

The consoles do not get 16 slots ...that was confirmed as a bug they get 8 slots just the same as pc

Source? I thought they got 16 because it was the only way to transfer both EU and NA server characters to the console.

Danikat wrote: »

I don't think the $50 for 8 slots calculation is really accurate, because you're also getting the entire game for that price.

Personally I'd be willing to pay up to $3 per slot. But I'd likely buy at least 4 slots.

That gives me a total of 12: enough to have 1 character of each race, 1 mule and 1 slot free to experiment with. If any of those experimental characters became permanent I'd then buy a new experimental slot. (Yes I'm an altaholic.)

That's kind of my general view but I would buy more than you You might also check the discussion I linked to @VictoriaRachel

Jitterbug

I only use 4 slots, one for each class, but around €5 seems fair

VictoriaRachel

$4.26 to $5.00

Discussion is great, but I am going off what it is likely to happen.

You are simply ignoring the fact a large number of people get 1500 crowns a month. You are ignoring a horse costs 2500. Character slots are a high value item. People are asking for something to spend the crowns they gain from monthly subs on. This is what they are going to give them. They will make it 2 months worth, and be done with it.

You don't want to pay that much for just character slots? Fine, I do not want to either. However, you maths is just wrong! Lets look at mounts. There were how many in the original version 4? So that makes it $12.50 each. But with a $15 horse and now a 2500 crown horse (which is $15 worth). They are already charging more than you originally did!

Do you really think they will charge a third of the price for a mount as something as popular as a character slot?

Gandrhulf_Harbard

$3.51 to $4.25

I'd expect to spend no more than 400 crowns for a Character Slot.

Which at current conversion rates equals about $3.80.

All The Best

Danikat

$2.01 to $2.75

VictoriaRachel wrote: »

I thought the 16 character slots on Console was a bug and not a feature it will launch with.

However the 'maths' you have used is just misleading. Total cost divided by character number? Really? Because we only bought character slots? Might as well pull numbers from the air!

What you should be considering is crown values, and current crown costs. I can not see them selling them for any less than the crowns received from a months sub, so that is a 1500 crowns minimum. However, with their demand and limited supply I can also not see it being less than a mount so 2500 crowns.

Basically I think it is going to end up costing 2 months so £18. Your poll is far too low!

However what would I pay? $5, anything more than that I do not consider a micro-transaction. If my thoughts above are right it doesn't look like I will ever be buying one!

I really don't understand this, especially the bit in bold. Why do you assume a character slot must cost more than the monthly crown allotment for subscribers? I don't recall anything where ZOS suggested they only intend this to be enough for 1 item per month and there are already many items that cost a lot less than that, including some permanent upgrades like motifs.

I'm also not sure what you mean about demand and limited supply. What part of this transaction is limited? Since both crowns and character slots are digital ZOS can create as many of them as they want or need.

Or do you mean subscribers get a limited supply of crowns? Firstly that's not entirely true since they can buy more at any time, secondly as above I don't think ZOS intends to limit how many items subscribers (or anyone else) can buy per month, that would be a terrible way to run a business. They really have no incentive to make the price prohibitively high because there is no need for them to limit how many slots people buy. (Beyond maybe a cap on the number per account to stop people overwhelming their servers. I know of people in other games with over 40 characters each.)

I actually think it'd make more sense for them to go the other way and try to make them seem cheap so people are more likely to buy them on impulse, especially since it's something we can buy multiple times.

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

VictoriaRachel wrote: »

Discussion is great, but I am going off what it is likely to happen.

You are simply ignoring the fact a large number of people get 1500 crowns a month. You are ignoring a horse costs 2500. Character slots are a high value item. People are asking for something to spend the crowns they gain from monthly subs on. This is what they are going to give them. They will make it 2 months worth, and be done with it.

You don't want to pay that much for just character slots? Fine, I do not want to either. However, you maths is just wrong! Lets look at mounts. There were how many in the original version 4? So that makes it $12.50 each. But with a $15 horse and now a 2500 crown horse (which is $15 worth). They are already charging more than you originally did!

Do you really think they will charge a third of the price for a mount as something as popular as a character slot?

Do you really think they can charge $15 and sell any when I can buy a second account (which gives me 8 more) for $30?

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

Danikat wrote: »

VictoriaRachel wrote: »

I thought the 16 character slots on Console was a bug and not a feature it will launch with.

However the 'maths' you have used is just misleading. Total cost divided by character number? Really? Because we only bought character slots? Might as well pull numbers from the air!

What you should be considering is crown values, and current crown costs. I can not see them selling them for any less than the crowns received from a months sub, so that is a 1500 crowns minimum. However, with their demand and limited supply I can also not see it being less than a mount so 2500 crowns.

Basically I think it is going to end up costing 2 months so £18. Your poll is far too low!

However what would I pay? $5, anything more than that I do not consider a micro-transaction. If my thoughts above are right it doesn't look like I will ever be buying one!

I really don't understand this, especially the bit in bold. Why do you assume a character slot must cost more than the monthly crown allotment for subscribers? I don't recall anything where ZOS suggested they only intend this to be enough for 1 item per month and there are already many items that cost a lot less than that, including some permanent upgrades like motifs.

I'm also not sure what you mean about demand and limited supply. What part of this transaction is limited? Since both crowns and character slots are digital ZOS can create as many of them as they want or need.

Or do you mean subscribers get a limited supply of crowns? Firstly that's not entirely true since they can buy more at any time, secondly as above I don't think ZOS intends to limit how many items subscribers (or anyone else) can buy per month, that would be a terrible way to run a business. They really have no incentive to make the price prohibitively high because there is no need for them to limit how many slots people buy. (Beyond maybe a cap on the number per account to stop people overwhelming their servers. I know of people in other games with over 40 characters each.)

I actually think it'd make more sense for them to go the other way and try to make them seem cheap so people are more likely to buy them on impulse, especially since it's something we can buy multiple times.

And here is the follow up for this argument where I even suggest 100 crowns might be a smart business move for ZoS:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1784595/#Comment_1784595

Basically the argument is that by selling them cheap they will net more future sales due to continued player interest. The full post goes into more detail.

VictoriaRachel

$4.26 to $5.00

Danikat wrote: »

I really don't understand this, especially the bit in bold. Why do you assume a character slot must cost more than the monthly crown allotment for subscribers? I don't recall anything where ZOS suggested they only intend this to be enough for 1 item per month and there are already many items that cost a lot less than that, including some permanent upgrades like motifs.

I assume it will cost more (or at least 1) because it is such a high value item, people want it. The motifs are a far lower demand item to be honest, especially the ones they are selling cheap. You will note the rare motifs cost over three months. They will charge as much as they think they can get, they can get at least 1 month payment, I just can not seem them missing that sort of opportunity.

Danikat wrote: »

I'm also not sure what you mean about demand and limited supply. What part of this transaction is limited? Since both crowns and character slots are digital ZOS can create as many of them as they want or need.

Or do you mean subscribers get a limited supply of crowns? Firstly that's not entirely true since they can buy more at any time, secondly as above I don't think ZOS intends to limit how many items subscribers (or anyone else) can buy per month, that would be a terrible way to run a business. They really have no incentive to make the price prohibitively high because there is no need for them to limit how many slots people buy. (Beyond maybe a cap on the number per account to stop people overwhelming their servers. I know of people in other games with over 40 characters each.)

It is indeed that part in brackets I was referring to along with demand per player. While there are other games with a LOT of characters. I would imagine there is still going to be a cap on the number of characters per player. I can see it being doubled to the 16, or perhaps just another 4, I can not see them adding 32! Even then will everyone want a lot? The other poll suggests most will only buy a couple however many are on offer. So they want to make sure they really cash in on those early purchases.

Danikat wrote: »

I actually think it'd make more sense for them to go the other way and try to make them seem cheap so people are more likely to buy them on impulse, especially since it's something we can buy multiple times.

I think spending those 1500 you get free would be seen as an impulse to most subscribers when there is no good alternative in the store.

Aballister

I would not buy more slots

I still have seven free

Slurg

Faugaun wrote: »

VictoriaRachel wrote: »

Discussion is great, but I am going off what it is likely to happen.

You are simply ignoring the fact a large number of people get 1500 crowns a month. You are ignoring a horse costs 2500. Character slots are a high value item. People are asking for something to spend the crowns they gain from monthly subs on. This is what they are going to give them. They will make it 2 months worth, and be done with it.

You don't want to pay that much for just character slots? Fine, I do not want to either. However, you maths is just wrong! Lets look at mounts. There were how many in the original version 4? So that makes it $12.50 each. But with a $15 horse and now a 2500 crown horse (which is $15 worth). They are already charging more than you originally did!

Do you really think they will charge a third of the price for a mount as something as popular as a character slot?

Do you really think they can charge $15 and sell any when I can buy a second account (which gives me 8 more) for $30?

I think they can charge $10-15, and they'd sell plenty, because a lot of people who want this have said they don't want to have to buy a second account to get more character slots. They want to use the mounts, costumes, pets, etc on the account they already have, not buy these things all over again on a second account. That's worth a premium.

Reb

I would pay more than $6.25 because I want to support the game and money isn't that important.

Faugaun wrote: »

Reb wrote: »

The consoles do not get 16 slots ...that was confirmed as a bug they get 8 slots just the same as pc

Source? I thought they got 16 because it was the only way to transfer both EU and NA server characters to the console.

It was mentioned during the last ESO live

Moonshadow66

$2.76 to $3.50

Danikat wrote: »

I don't think the $50 for 8 slots calculation is really accurate, because you're also getting the entire game for that price.

Personally I'd be willing to pay up to $3 per slot. But I'd likely buy at least 4 slots.

That gives me a total of 12: enough to have 1 character of each race, 1 mule and 1 slot free to experiment with. If any of those experimental characters became permanent I'd then buy a new experimental slot. (Yes I'm an altaholic.)

I voted slightly higher but I'm all with you. And I'm an altaholic, too

Audigy

I would not buy more slots

I hope this never comes as a paid service, its too much P2W. The advantages that you can gain with additional slots is huge. Same applies to bank slots, such things should never be put into a shop, it ruins the game as we know from other MMOs.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO

I would not buy more slots

I don't believe that math makes sense at all.
You're acting like the character slots make up the full value of the game.
The character slots are just for characters, not actual content... I don't really understand why people are so willing to pay for this when it could be done for free.

And no... I don't expect things to be given away for free. I just refuse to pay for anything that's simply changing the cap on a function we already have. I expect real content.

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

Reb wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

Reb wrote: »

The consoles do not get 16 slots ...that was confirmed as a bug they get 8 slots just the same as pc

Source? I thought they got 16 because it was the only way to transfer both EU and NA server characters to the console.

It was mentioned during the last ESO live

Thanks I missed that tidbit apparently

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

Audigy wrote: »

I hope this never comes as a paid service, its too much P2W. The advantages that you can gain with additional slots is huge. Same applies to bank slots, such things should never be put into a shop, it ruins the game as we know from other MMOs.

And all said advantages (which I respectfully disagree, they are not p2w) are gainable from simply purchasing a second account.

Merlin13KAGL

Nice duplicate post, for all intents and purposes.

Tomg999

I understand the $50 for 8 more slots - I just paid it. I just purchased a second copy of the game in order to get a second account for 8 more slots.

I also wonder a little about folks posting in a thread about something they are not interested in (more slots). I suppose it is because of the title "How much would you pay for..." which does invite answers of $0, but it still strikes me a bit like jumping into a PVP thread to say "I only do solo PVE".

Gandrhulf_Harbard

$3.51 to $4.25

Audigy wrote: »

I hope this never comes as a paid service, its too much P2W. The advantages that you can gain with additional slots is huge. Same applies to bank slots, such things should never be put into a shop, it ruins the game as we know from other MMOs.

How is having an extra Character or 10 extra bank slots even remotely related to P2W?

It isn't.

In fact it isn't even in the same ball park.

LOTRO has extra personal and shared bank space available for in game gold up to certain levels and then extra slots beyong that only purchasable via the store. Extra character slots are also available via the Store.

Neither are, in any way, shape or form, related to P2W in any way... ...ever.

All The Best

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

Tomg999 wrote: »

I understand the $50 for 8 more slots - I just paid it. I just purchased a second copy of the game in order to get a second account for 8 more slots.

I also wonder a little about folks posting in a thread about something they are not interested in (more slots). I suppose it is because of the title "How much would you pay for..." which does invite answers of $0, but it still strikes me a bit like jumping into a PVP thread to say "I only do solo PVE".

My wife did yesterday....I'm holding out hoping zos will offer individual slots because I do not want the extra bank etc... But I do want access to the cosmetic items that I have purchased on my account....to me it is crazy that I purchase a cosmetic upgrade (nightmare couraair, and 7k worth of other crownshop account wide cosmetics ) and the be expected to pay for the same things again, not get my dye colors, not have access to CP etc... I will absolutely not buy the cosmetics on a second account, thats insane.

At the same time many people are not concerned about that and would likely be better off just ignoring this and buying a second account for mules and bank space and trade guilds. No biggie you guys have fun with that, I want to ride my leopard seneche and my striped seneche and my flaming horse while wearing my wedding dress typing out " I'm a lumberjack and thats OK ...."

Ashtaris

$3.51 to $4.25

Audigy wrote: »

I hope this never comes as a paid service, its too much P2W. The advantages that you can gain with additional slots is huge. Same applies to bank slots, such things should never be put into a shop, it ruins the game as we know from other MMOs.

/facepalm

How in God's name do you come up with the logic that having extra character slots is P2W? Please, explain that one to me

Faugaun

$4.26 to $5.00

Ashtaris wrote: »

Audigy wrote: »

I hope this never comes as a paid service, its too much P2W. The advantages that you can gain with additional slots is huge. Same applies to bank slots, such things should never be put into a shop, it ruins the game as we know from other MMOs.

/facepalm

How in God's name do you come up with the logic that having extra character slots is P2W? Please, explain that one to me

@Audigy and me.

Pallmor

I would pay more than $6.25 because I want to support the game and money isn't that important.

They shouldn't sell extra character slots, they should rent them for a monthly fee. If you just HAVE to have that 9th, 10th, 100th character, fine. But that will be 100 crowns per month, per slot.

General_Kefka

I would not buy more slots

umm let us do some simple math....

4 character classes....
8 character slots.....

why would you need more slots? Rerolling same class twice isnt enough?



IN OTHER WORDS NEED MOAR CLASSES!!!!!!!!!!