Cloaks/ capes

Revenant_Spartan

WhiskyBob wrote: »

Well allright cloaks might be good but please don't make them a piece of texture sticking out of your shoulders like in most other mmo's.

The ones showed in the video is just another mmo "cape". I hate that. I expect more than that.

I wholeheartedly agree... I want a cloak/cape that wraps around the shoulders - with or without cowls. Again, more the type of things you see in GoT, DS2, 300 etc. Badass cloaks, not some dinky bathtowel pinned to my shoulders with babypins.

Alphashado

WhiskyBob wrote: »

I actually hate tabards and capes.

Why every MMO has to have tabards and capes? Every-single-one.
There are other ways to identify yourself with a guild other than cliche tabards and bloody capes:

- War-Banners as I have linked above
- Mounted flags
- Guild emblems on mount armor

- Guild emblems on shields
- Guild emblems engraved/embroidered on armor (on the back or front with different variations)

Seriously. Stop with that tabard and cape thing, try for once doing something different.

The irony in this post is hilarious

Theosis

Revenant_Spartan wrote: »

ChampionSheWolf wrote: »

Messy1 wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Thanks for this thread. I love it when this comes up, cuz I get to do this:



Paul Sage is against capes.

Why are you so against capes?

Because capes would do nothing but strangle you, tangle up your feet, or otherwise get in the way, and were never worn in combat.

Yes and wearing helmets wit horns the size of a 2 year old child is realistic? (Primal heavy helm)

And don't forget those ugly stupid pink wings on level vet 14 imperial med armor

Gidorick

Ourorboros wrote: »

I could care less about capes. Paul Sage doesn't like capes.

Where did he speak against capes?

Donum-Dei

I believe if they do a good skeleton joints for cloaks it will be great addition, heck everybody is asking for them in the CS threat. Having cloaks, scarves, silk scarves and robes will be great as long as stay in the aesthetic of the game of course. But honestly having a cloak that is just resting in my back from my shoulders? and it doesn't have any sort of integration with the armor itself? I is not good at all.

It will be perfect if they give a little bit of love in the way they can come up with those for the armors and how can they be wrap around the armor giving the a perfect aesthetic.

WhiskyBob

Alphashado wrote: »

WhiskyBob wrote: »

I actually hate tabards and capes.

Why every MMO has to have tabards and capes? Every-single-one.
There are other ways to identify yourself with a guild other than cliche tabards and bloody capes:

- War-Banners as I have linked above
- Mounted flags
- Guild emblems on mount armor

- Guild emblems on shields
- Guild emblems engraved/embroidered on armor (on the back or front with different variations)

Seriously. Stop with that tabard and cape thing, try for once doing something different.

The irony in this post is hilarious

Not really man on the picture is wearing a cloak. Cloaks are allright if done properly. Capes are the toilet paper stuck to your back after you wake up after a heavy party. At least thats how they look like in games.

WhiskyBob

Theosis wrote: »

Revenant_Spartan wrote: »

ChampionSheWolf wrote: »

Messy1 wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Thanks for this thread. I love it when this comes up, cuz I get to do this:



Paul Sage is against capes.

Why are you so against capes?

Because capes would do nothing but strangle you, tangle up your feet, or otherwise get in the way, and were never worn in combat.

Yes and wearing helmets wit horns the size of a 2 year old child is realistic? (Primal heavy helm)

And don't forget those ugly stupid pink wings on level vet 14 imperial med armor

I believe the wings serve their purpose. The imperial army is based on post-modernisation Roman army. Armor in imperial army is not supposed to look cool, it's a uniform. Wings symbolize light infantry and scouts i guess. They are not stupid but they don't look cool, true.

Romo

Just want to say NO to capes.

That is all.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO

Silvrian wrote: »

Will cloaks, capes or even headbands and scarves be included into ESO in the future?

If so, how would this affect the game positively and negatively?

If not, how come they wouldn't be included? Haha we could add "hide ***" option. Premium players could get it I guess? Not sure :-)

Thanks so much fellow ESOers that are willing to chat with me!

Cloaks and capes would be a welcome addition.
Headbands would be difficult, as there are already options for those in character creation. Numerous ones for female characters.
Scarves? I'll pass on the medieval hipsters. Making them work with the existing armors would also be hard, at least without massive amounts of clipping.

TheShadowScout

If they added scarves, they'd have to be impractically long... no, wait... that's another universe, though who am I to tell timelords where to go

That said, it would be neat to have a "back" equipment slot. For capes, cloaks, back banners, oversized backpacks, trailing scarves, floating welkyn stones, heck, you could have a huge nord carrying a tiny gnome and call himself MasterBlaster... okay, maybe not that do they don't get a letter from the licenseholder to MadMax, but some other stuff to further customize our characters might be viable. And they could always turn off these visuals in cyrodil where lag is the biggest issue...

Clipping has been mentioned, and I agree, that would likely be a severa issue with most of those. Much like... the breechcloth tabard/armor part often clips nowadays?

Dragsooth

I like the idea, the more aesthetic, the better. People love playing dress up in MMOS

Huggernaut

Silvrian wrote: »

Will cloaks, capes or even headbands and scarves be included into ESO in the future?

Don't see many people asking for scarves, as a Canadian, I fully support this suggestion! lol .. next, the toque! lol




let's make it happen people!

titanofdoom

I would like cloaks but not capes...there is a slight differnce.

Snowstrider

Ourorboros wrote: »

Thanks for this thread. I love it when this comes up, cuz I get to do this:



Paul Sage is against capes.

Then Paul Sage is boring.
A epic cloak is the only thing thats missing from making my character look epic.

The arguments against cloaks are just silly,So many old mmos have them yet eso dont,Like if eso cant have them... Eso already has physics on some armors and clothing,Think of it like that but with cloaks.

Gidorick

I still want to know where Paul Sage has said he was against them....

Zet-7

I want kilts.
And a bath robe with a matching towel for my hair.

Donum-Dei

Really @Snowstrider it doesn't matter if we have capes or not, even thought it could be cool if they do it right, and not that ugly looking paper in the back that only hangs from your shoulders, I wouldn't like that alt all. I will like a more well made capes.




Capes that goes and are part of a clothing as a whole and can be a separated piece of cloth to that can be wearable with other clothing's as well. Hooded capes, clothing/armors that have silk scarves, hooded scarves, hooded chainmails that are also separated like the light armor hats and epaulets.

Ourorboros

Gidorick wrote: »

I still want to know where Paul Sage has said he was against them....

Gidorick wrote: »

I still want to know where Paul Sage has said he was against them....

There have been sooooo many posts about capes. Somewhere in all that is an anecdote about how Paul Sage would send Incredibles clips to whichever staff was promoting capes. For those not familiar with the Incredibles, the super hero costume designer gives example after example of super heros who die tragically because of their capes. @Gidorick , if you are looking for a Paul Sage quote, I don't have it. But the above story came from ZO$ team.

Personally, I have no opinion on capes. Like I posted earlier, they are a cosmetic item, so you never know if they might turn up in the Crown $tore. I just find it both amusing and annoying that so many posts ask for this or that COSMETIC game change when there are bigger issues facing the game, like never ending, never fixed bugs and LAG, LAG, LAG.

Gidorick

Thanks for the response @orboros.

I hope that when they ARE added they aren't just Crown Store items. My fear for ESO is that every single update will come from the crown store. I don't mind variations of items being in the crown store, like how we can only get horses for free but we can buy Senche Mounts and Guar in the Crown Store.

If capes are ever added, I hope we get some capes in the base game with other's in the crown store.

Donum-Dei

Gidorick wrote: »

If capes are ever added, I hope we get some capes in the base game with other's in the crown store.

Indeed.

PKMN12

Gidorick wrote: »

Thanks for the response @orboros.

I hope that when they ARE added they aren't just Crown Store items. My fear for ESO is that every single update will come from the crown store. I don't mind variations of items being in the crown store, like how we can only get horses for free but we can buy Senche Mounts and Guar in the Crown Store. .

welcome to the wonderful world of a cash shop!

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Gidorick

PKMN12 wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Thanks for the response @orboros.

I hope that when they ARE added they aren't just Crown Store items. My fear for ESO is that every single update will come from the crown store. I don't mind variations of items being in the crown store, like how we can only get horses for free but we can buy Senche Mounts and Guar in the Crown Store. .

welcome to the wonderful world of a cash shop!

I'm reserving judgment on ESO, ZOS, and the whole Buy to Play change until the end of this year. I think ZOS has had their hands tied by Zenimax for the past 9 months or so. I'm hoping we get "on track" after console release.

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

TheRealDoc

Guild cloaks worked well in DAOC pvp.

Just saying....

nimander99

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

Silvrian wrote: »

Will cloaks, capes or even headbands and scarves be included into ESO in the future?

If so, how would this affect the game positively and negatively?

If not, how come they wouldn't be included? Haha we could add "hide ***" option. Premium players could get it I guess? Not sure :-)

Thanks so much fellow ESOers that are willing to chat with me!

Cloaks were in the game at one point In the video I link below you can see characters wearing capes at times: 2:28, 2:55(argonian on the left has one), 3:06 (guy in full Imperial)

[url=https://youtube.com/watch?v=YlEipFtHw7o[/url]

So they were in the game at one point but they must have decided to scrap the idea shortly before ESO came out. A few things I'd like to point out is not everyone was wearing capes, which could mean that they might have to been hard to obtain (this could show you've done something like titles, or they could have been very rare drops)

There is also a lot of stuff in the video that was left out, tons of different abilities, flags in the courtyard of a keep, armors, etc.

one day they may bring them back, if enough people ask for em.

Ever time i see this video I chuckle, notice the elements of the Justice System in early beta and the dyed armors? Also, bring back that flip!

But yeah, to the o.p we all want capes... there isn't a single player that doesn't want capes, if someone says they don't they are just being contrary.

FreedomDude

Capes are for children...



But cloaks are for men!

MCMancub

I don't want capes, or even cloaks, because so many people seem to think it will make them look "epic". Capes/cloaks serve a specific purpose, warmth (or perhaps sand/sun in the Alik'r Desert). They don't exist in the Elder Scrolls world to make the wearer look cool. They exist as an article of clothing to meet a need.

I have no problem with them being the focal point of a majorly popular mod in Skyrim, because they make sense in that environment. If they were added to Elder Scrolls they would only be seen as a way to make your character look more "epic". There are only a handful of locations we have available to us now that they would appear to fit the standard dress code of the environment.

Wolfchild07

Capes/cloaks/more clipping issues. If people want them then fine, but I won't be using them. As is long hair still clips through the shield on my back. Seriously annoying.

Silvrian

wait... so we can buy and wear a wedding dress, but no capes? thats messed up!

capes or cloaks... scarves, need something to cover my back. Those guards keep pinching my ass!

also, for those of you that don't want them, I can't understand why. I'm sure there could be a /hide option.

SHADOW2KK

Gidorick wrote: »

Search function works wonders mate. Here are the highlights:

• Yes we want them.
• ESO had them in early beta/alpha
• They couldn't get them right.
• They caused significant performance issues.
• Most of us assume we will get them at some point in the future.

Aye very true, annoyingly....

SHADOW2KK

WhiskyBob wrote: »

I actually hate tabards and capes.

Why every MMO has to have tabards and capes? Every-single-one.
There are other ways to identify yourself with a guild other than cliche tabards and bloody capes:

- War-Banners as I have linked above
- Mounted flags
- Guild emblems on mount armor

- Guild emblems on shields
- Guild emblems engraved/embroidered on armor (on the back or front with different variations)

Seriously. Stop with that tabard and cape thing, try for once doing something different.

?, well the game is based loosely on a fantasy medieval setting, so cloaks/capes/tabards and other house markings etc would be the norm, especially in PvP.

Now I could be wrong, but I am distinctly getting the feeling you don`t like capes etc?:P hehe