Group Member Disappearing Bug – Community Feedback Requested

Kavatchian

I don't see this happening anymore, however could I suggest something to improve groups? Can we get map markers for group members in PVE? Its always so difficult to find a group member while playing in PVE. Being the group leader is the only icon that actively shows on the directional meter.

Maybe adding a highlighted icon for group members and/or guild members would be nice. I cannot tell you how many times we get separated as a group because we lose track of each other while questing. It would also be nice feature that when your group leader accepts a quest the rest of the group also has the option to either accept or deny that quest. Its a hassle to jump to another menu to share a quest.

Just a couple of suggestions. Honestly I'd really just like to be able to find my group faster, and easier. The rest is just a bonus.

Thanks!

Volkodav

Thank you for fixing this! I've had it happen a couple of times. A group member is in the room,but I can only see their marker,not them.

Gargath

ZOS_RyanRuzich wrote: »

We've been monitoring the forums daily, and haven't noticed anyone complaining anymore about this particular bug. Due to the low frequency of the bug originally (it was very annoying, but happened very sporadically), We wanted to ask: Is anyone still experiencing it?

I wish to report this bug, which happened to me about 2 days ago in The Rift area (EU server/PC) and I remember details: I was around lvl 33 (Argonian Templar) and I grouped with one player of lvl around 39 (I can check his name if needed), afaik it was outside the Northwind Mine. Then we entered the mine together, did the quests inside and quit by Northwind Mine exit. Soon after that we accepted in-game friendship, and decided to do some more quests around. To this moment everything was going just fine, but then we started to encounter something is wrong between us, we were able to see eachother for some time, then friend was disappearing or his character was sliding like skating, than diasapparing again, and when we run a short trip to Vernim Woods we realised we disappeared for good against each other. I was still seeing his crown as a group leader in my compass in position close to me, and also on my minimap (addon), but could not see him by eyes. Also in on-screen group indicator he was marked like he was outside the group area (his name was shaded). He reported just the same was happening to him. Also, still staying in group but not seeing eachother, we could not attack the same mobs, even staying in exact same position on map.

I hope it helps you find and kill the bug for good .

Twing

It would seem that the bug is back.
This time, group mate's arrow above their head is also invisible.
Only way to tell their presence is if they have a pet up or they aggro'd the boss and start running around.

Both instances, only one of the group member would be invisible to another single member of that group. The invisible member is visible to the rest.

newtinmpls

Just last night had a thing where I and an EP friend went into IC, I could not see her, she could see me. Reloadui did not work, but I logged out and in and that did fix it.

Oddly, I could see the symbol above where she was, just not her.

dotme

I've experienced the "invisible group member" phenomenon on PS4/NA/BWB for the past few weeks.

Becomes more obvious in smaller groups - my experience has been that the one invisible member is invisible to most of the others. No symbol/marker, and if they die and you move to where they should be, you see a prompt to resurrect them but you can't actually do it. It's like they're in a parallel universe.

Haydenmango

This has happened a lot to me lately, group members are invisible except for their group marker and health bar.
I found out going to the group panel, right clicking the invisible person, and then clicking on travel to player makes the person visible again every time it has happened so far.

Molec

This still happens a lot in IC sewers and I think it's connected to players being in groups on there other logged off characters, it seems to happen to me when jumping from alt to alt whilst grouped on both and I usually vanish.

kratier

this happened to me yesterday i believe it was due to phasing of a low level quest in "Roost" where you fight the guy who possesses corpses

NewBlacksmurf

ZOS_RyanRuzich wrote: »

Greetings everyone!

We fixed an issue in patch 2.0.4 where player characters within groups would sometimes disappear when zoning or going through doors. To clarify, the bug would manifest as a member of your group being "Invisible", but the indicator above their head (either a crown for group leader or the carrot for group member) would be visible and moving around.

This bug is what we call a heisenbug. A heisenbug is a bug that does not occur when you attach a debugger or other measuring program to the game. This makes it very hard to find the root cause (it's difficult to kill a bug you cannot create on demand), and more difficult to say that the bug is fixed. The eventual reproduction steps involved hours of jumping into and out of Del's Claim to cause it to happen once.



We've been monitoring the forums daily, and haven't noticed anyone complaining anymore about this particular bug. Due to the low frequency of the bug originally (it was very annoying, but happened very sporadically), We wanted to ask: Is anyone still experiencing it?

It still occurs on Xbox one but I'm not sure if this discussion is PC only.
While there are not reports of this specifically there are touches of this within grouping tool bug topics as reasons why ppl kick or leave groups.

Perhaps placing this atop the general forums would lead to more feedback as I'm on the forums everyday but very rarely go here. To be specific....this issue was not seen prior to the Thieves Guild update but as of the update and even as of lat night, it still occurs during randoms.

Is it due to faction differences? As I've only seen it happen to tanks and healers per their role assigned in the tool.

mateoz

This has happened a lot to me lately, group members are invisible except for their group marker and health bar.
I found out going through door make them visible again every time it has happened so far.

Is it due to faction differences?
Beeing group with other faction seem to be related as 3 AD could not see a DC player and vise versa.

saf227_ESO

This has begun happening to me. Using the 64 bit client. Other than that, it seems random. Different dungeons, different groupings. I haven't noticed if it tends to happen with players of different factions.

x_t7ink_x

ZOS_RyanRuzich wrote: »

Greetings everyone!

We fixed an issue in patch 2.0.4 where player characters within groups would sometimes disappear when zoning or going through doors. To clarify, the bug would manifest as a member of your group being "Invisible", but the indicator above their head (either a crown for group leader or the carrot for group member) would be visible and moving around.

This bug is what we call a heisenbug. A heisenbug is a bug that does not occur when you attach a debugger or other measuring program to the game. This makes it very hard to find the root cause (it's difficult to kill a bug you cannot create on demand), and more difficult to say that the bug is fixed. The eventual reproduction steps involved hours of jumping into and out of Del's Claim to cause it to happen once.



We've been monitoring the forums daily, and haven't noticed anyone complaining anymore about this particular bug. Due to the low frequency of the bug originally (it was very annoying, but happened very sporadically), We wanted to ask: Is anyone still experiencing it?

Hi PS4 EU - Heisenbug is very much still alive!! I took two groups into Sanctum last night and on both occasions people were invisible including the tank, meaning logging out and back in again until we could see them otherwise people are unable to RES them

NewBlacksmurf

FYI there is another thread here where this occurs in PvP!

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/259654/another-invisibility-bug-after-patch

MissBizz

Well, looks like this old thread for bumped..

FYI this is happening in group dungeons again.

Mcwoods55

It has been back. It has been occurring at random to me and my friends since new DLC.

Glaiceana

Yeah this is still happening:

Can see his healthbar in the ground on this image:


And finally visible after relog:

Slurg

Holy necrothread!

I actually saw this when I was in a Wrothgar WB group last week (invisible group member with marker over head) but assumed I was either seeing things due to too much cake or old bugs were intentionally invited to the celebration.

USMCAggie0351

NA XB1 I see this quite often. Corrects itself if the invisible member goes through any type of load screen.

Mcwoods55

Last night it was even worse. Normally it is only 1 person of my normal 4 man crew that we can't see. Yesterday it was 2, me and the normal that couldn't be seen.

Hookgrin

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

Last night it was even worse. Normally it is only 1 person of my normal 4 man crew that we can't see. Yesterday it was 2, me and the normal that couldn't be seen.

Yep, I'm a healer and could not see 2 of my 4. They did not appear in the group frame either. Had to log out and back in, which poses a risk of getting a long load screen and/or a crash.

The frequency by which they re-introduce old bugs is amazing.

WuffyCerulei

Aye this has been happening a lot more on PC after the Thieves Guild update.

RogueShade

It's not just dungeons either I grouped with a guild mate for a vampire bite and had to relog since I was invisible.

NewBlacksmurf

Still occurs on Xbox one NA server
This is from today

saf227_ESO

This still happens on occasion. Re-logging will usually fix it. We've found you cannot restore anyone who dies if they're invisible to you. Certain party members may be invisible to you - but not to others.

SolarCat02

I can also confirm this is still a bug on Xbox One.

Glaiceana

Happened again today in Silver, this time it seems I was the only person who couldn't see the group member, the other 2 I was playing with could, and they could see me too. PC/EU.

FilteredRiddle

Yes. All the time.

linlilia

This bug happens in about 1 in 4 dungeon runs for me and the groups I am with, with at least 1 person having an invisible person at a time, usually the same person being invisible for most of the group. Relogging and disbanning and rejoining groups does not seem to help. Also a fair bit of phasing with a 2 man group where relogging seems to help that one mostly in silver and gold.

I am playing on PC.

newtinmpls

I have semi-regularly noted this, and I'm seeing a pattern. When we gather up (by we I mean four characters from different players but all DC) in the Wayrest Undaunted area to start doing dailies, usually one person is "invisible" and while we have tried to have various folks who can't see the person attempt /reloadui the only thing that fixes it is the person who is invisible has to log out of the game and re-login.

Still happening.

Edited to say "PC NA"
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