Mist Form 75% DMG mitigation Bugged [Radiant Destruction]

hammayolettuce

Garbrac wrote: »

The issue I see is that Mist Form isn't negating damage that is already being performed when you initialize mist form. I do not know if this is intended or not, As Mist Form is suppose to negate damage taken after it's been initialized. In your testing I see you hitting Mist Form AFTER the Jesus Beam has been started, thus making Mist Form null and void since Jesus Beam is a continuous attack and not a DoT (damage is constant whereas a DoT has timed ticks and allows for recalculation).

That being said, and just to nitpick, your video appears to have been recorded over three days at least. At the begining of your video you stated the clips were recorded on Apr 20th, which isn't the case as that was yesterday, and the clock on your video shows 11:34pm, 11:32pm, 11:15pm, 11:25pm, 11:27pm, and 11:39pm. So unless you're a Time Lord, the video was over at least 3 days.

yeah you know there is this thing called time zones right? look at the original post date as well .. 4/20. Thanks for trying to troll. Gina already said they will look into it which is all that was needed out of this thread.

Attorneyatlawl

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Also worth noting is that the Templar would gain a 20% damage boost on the first tick of Radiant I think, from the Might of the Guild passive if he had recently refreshed Inner Light (Mage Guild skill). Someone correct me if I'm wrong on it being consumed by Radiant but I recall someone saying it is.

Inner light was only cast once on accident, all of the others it was not used. but in theory it should

Ah, gotcha, I was on my cell answering the post so I hadn't watched the video, just read the discussion cursorily.

Winnamine

Garbrac wrote: »

The issue I see is that Mist Form isn't negating damage that is already being performed when you initialize mist form. I do not know if this is intended or not, As Mist Form is suppose to negate damage taken after it's been initialized. In your testing I see you hitting Mist Form AFTER the Jesus Beam has been started, thus making Mist Form null and void since Jesus Beam is a continuous attack and not a DoT (damage is constant whereas a DoT has timed ticks and allows for recalculation).

That being said, and just to nitpick, your video appears to have been recorded over three days at least. At the begining of your video you stated the clips were recorded on Apr 20th, which isn't the case as that was yesterday, and the clock on your video shows 11:34pm, 11:32pm, 11:15pm, 11:25pm, 11:27pm, and 11:39pm. So unless you're a Time Lord, the video was over at least 3 days.

I'm the templar in the clip, and I can assure you, it was all filmed at the same time.
How many times do you think I'm going to hike up to the Alma Runa gate just for the chance to repeatedly Jesus Beam Asgari to death?

Alcast

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Updated with better footage


These clips were recorded 4/20 after the 2.0.6 update. Mist form should mitigate %75 of all incoming damage which it does for every ability accept these two. It also seems apparent that mist form and undeath do not stack as well (unsure if intended). The main [Bug] of discussion is the Radiant channeled execute fully penetrating (not being mitigated the full 75) from mist form and not being mitigated like other attacks and or executes.

Thank you for watching and I hope Zenimax fixes the issues or at least comments on this issue on the forums.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w9Z0lJuCPo


Posted for Princess Asgari.

looks fine to me, it def mitigates the dmg. And no wonder that you die if he starts to beam you at 25% health and AFTER that you start mist form. There is always a DELAY on your skills(aka lag/ping
And at less than 25% HP you usually INSTA die on beam, there in the vid ist still took 2 hits from beam to kill you. Dont excpect to take 0 dmg lol. I mean on execution phase the skill does 330% more dmg and you mitigate 75% of it, meaning it still will hit you for 5k per tick i guess

What you could do is perma spam Mist form and check how much longer it takes to kill you as when you just stand there doing nothing. Pretty sure spaming mist form it will take a lot longer till you die

Some math(more or les): Lets say it ticks for 5k/sec.
5k*4.3(the 330% WITHOUT 40% with full magicka)=21500dmg
21500*0,25(Mist mitigation)=5,3k dmg

means even in mist form you still get hit by 5k dmg every sec and at 25% of your hp you (in vid you had 21kHP) will die in 1sec.


so everything works fine

Garbrac

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Garbrac wrote: »

The issue I see is that Mist Form isn't negating damage that is already being performed when you initialize mist form. I do not know if this is intended or not, As Mist Form is suppose to negate damage taken after it's been initialized. In your testing I see you hitting Mist Form AFTER the Jesus Beam has been started, thus making Mist Form null and void since Jesus Beam is a continuous attack and not a DoT (damage is constant whereas a DoT has timed ticks and allows for recalculation).

That being said, and just to nitpick, your video appears to have been recorded over three days at least. At the begining of your video you stated the clips were recorded on Apr 20th, which isn't the case as that was yesterday, and the clock on your video shows 11:34pm, 11:32pm, 11:15pm, 11:25pm, 11:27pm, and 11:39pm. So unless you're a Time Lord, the video was over at least 3 days.

yeah you know there is this thing called time zones right? look at the original post date as well .. 4/20. Thanks for trying to troll. Gina already said they will look into it which is all that was needed out of this thread.

So you're switching time zones every clip? And time zones that are only change by 15mins? Dude, what planet are you living on? You went from 11:35pm to 11:15pm. What timezone switch was that?

Unless you did your "testing" in some weird ass order. Which really makes your "testing" seem very inaccurate. Since you said in your video you did it naked than with armour, which by the time stamps you did with armour first.

Accurate Testing and accurate portrayal of such testing is important.

Also the above math looks more legit than your testing.

Huntler

Garbrac wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Garbrac wrote: »

The issue I see is that Mist Form isn't negating damage that is already being performed when you initialize mist form. I do not know if this is intended or not, As Mist Form is suppose to negate damage taken after it's been initialized. In your testing I see you hitting Mist Form AFTER the Jesus Beam has been started, thus making Mist Form null and void since Jesus Beam is a continuous attack and not a DoT (damage is constant whereas a DoT has timed ticks and allows for recalculation).

That being said, and just to nitpick, your video appears to have been recorded over three days at least. At the begining of your video you stated the clips were recorded on Apr 20th, which isn't the case as that was yesterday, and the clock on your video shows 11:34pm, 11:32pm, 11:15pm, 11:25pm, 11:27pm, and 11:39pm. So unless you're a Time Lord, the video was over at least 3 days.

yeah you know there is this thing called time zones right? look at the original post date as well .. 4/20. Thanks for trying to troll. Gina already said they will look into it which is all that was needed out of this thread.

So you're switching time zones every clip? And time zones that are only change by 15mins? Dude, what planet are you living on? You went from 11:35pm to 11:15pm. What timezone switch was that?

Unless you did your "testing" in some weird ass order. Which really makes your "testing" seem very inaccurate. Since you said in your video you did it naked than with armour, which by the time stamps you did with armour first.

Accurate Testing and accurate portrayal of such testing is important.

Also the above math looks more legit than your testing.

Dude, chill about the time zones. They are fine.

Winnamine

Garbrac wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Garbrac wrote: »

The issue I see is that Mist Form isn't negating damage that is already being performed when you initialize mist form. I do not know if this is intended or not, As Mist Form is suppose to negate damage taken after it's been initialized. In your testing I see you hitting Mist Form AFTER the Jesus Beam has been started, thus making Mist Form null and void since Jesus Beam is a continuous attack and not a DoT (damage is constant whereas a DoT has timed ticks and allows for recalculation).

That being said, and just to nitpick, your video appears to have been recorded over three days at least. At the begining of your video you stated the clips were recorded on Apr 20th, which isn't the case as that was yesterday, and the clock on your video shows 11:34pm, 11:32pm, 11:15pm, 11:25pm, 11:27pm, and 11:39pm. So unless you're a Time Lord, the video was over at least 3 days.

yeah you know there is this thing called time zones right? look at the original post date as well .. 4/20. Thanks for trying to troll. Gina already said they will look into it which is all that was needed out of this thread.

So you're switching time zones every clip? And time zones that are only change by 15mins? Dude, what planet are you living on? You went from 11:35pm to 11:15pm. What timezone switch was that?

Unless you did your "testing" in some weird ass order. Which really makes your "testing" seem very inaccurate. Since you said in your video you did it naked than with armour, which by the time stamps you did with armour first.

Accurate Testing and accurate portrayal of such testing is important.

Also the above math looks more legit than your testing.

We started with armor, then we wondered if there was some interaction between armor and mistform, so we took the armor off, then we did it with armor again to compare.
I'm actually not sure if the clips are in order, but it hardly matters since each test was independent of the others.
How would it affect the testing if armor was tested before or after no amor?

hammayolettuce

Any word yet @ZOS_GinaBruno?

asneakybanana

If its working the same way to reduce damage as it does with fire its only going to mitigate 75% of the base damage not the additional 300%. When you pop mist and get hit by a fire ability you take 65% of the base damage not 75% of the 140% damage you take. So if RD is using the same logic then it would be reducing the damage to 225% instead of 300% Havent tested to confirm yet though.

hammayolettuce

@ZOS_GinaBruno , I know these things can take some time but any word on whats going on with the mitigation issue with mist form yet?

hammayolettuce

Been a while, wondering if any updates are to be had on this?

Davadin

so whats the big difference between Temp's Jesus Beam and Soul skill line Ultimate?

MudcrabsRus

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the video! We'll take a look and see if we can clear this up for you all. Stand by for answers...

Still standing by

LameoveR

MudcrabsRus wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the video! We'll take a look and see if we can clear this up for you all. Stand by for answers...

Still standing by

Pff, it's just 5 months passed. Have a patience!

hammayolettuce

LameoveR wrote: »

MudcrabsRus wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the video! We'll take a look and see if we can clear this up for you all. Stand by for answers...

Still standing by

Pff, it's just 5 months passed. Have a patience!

Don't worry, this is just one of the many bugs Asgari has pointed out that go overlooked for months .. At least this go around it was "being looked into" lol

Huckdabuck

Maybe we should all just keep posting in threads where ZOS isn't holding up their end.

Fruitdog

Huckdabuck wrote: »

Maybe we should all just keep posting in threads where ZOS isn't holding up their end.

that wouldn't leave anytime to play the broken game tho

hammayolettuce

Fruitdog wrote: »

Huckdabuck wrote: »

Maybe we should all just keep posting in threads where ZOS isn't holding up their end.

that wouldn't leave anytime to play the broken game tho

Double liked.

Firerock2

Maybe ZOS should fix the fact that Radiant Destruction's damage can now be dodged.

Teiji

This fixed?

Mr_Nobody

Teiji wrote: »

This fixed?

This was never a bug or whatever. The tests were not done properly and illustrate nothing but the fact that both RD and mitigation worked perfect. There is another thread where i made the original creator of the same thread cry.

hammayolettuce

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

Teiji wrote: »

This fixed?

This was never a bug or whatever. The tests were not done properly and illustrate nothing but the fact that both RD and mitigation worked perfect. There is another thread where i made the original creator of the same thread cry.

It was in fact proven it was not mitigating dmg correctly. It is still not doing the full 75%.

Mr_Nobody

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

Teiji wrote: »

This fixed?

This was never a bug or whatever. The tests were not done properly and illustrate nothing but the fact that both RD and mitigation worked perfect. There is another thread where i made the original creator of the same thread cry.

It was in fact proven it was not mitigating dmg correctly. It is still not doing the full 75%.

It, actually, was not. ~

it took twice as less jesus beams to kill a person while using mist form (you would imagine, 50% mitigation then, right?). Except few things:

1) Misting after first 1-2 initial ticks.
2) The actual recording started when the person was nearly half hp and compared it to the one with full.

I would in fact say it was jesus beam not dealing enough damage. Im glad you are all happy now since the ability is basically useless ~ Better go back to spamming that dark cloak.

frozywozy

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

Teiji wrote: »

This fixed?

This was never a bug or whatever. The tests were not done properly and illustrate nothing but the fact that both RD and mitigation worked perfect. There is another thread where i made the original creator of the same thread cry.

It was in fact proven it was not mitigating dmg correctly. It is still not doing the full 75%.

It, actually, was not. ~

it took twice as less jesus beams to kill a person while using mist form (you would imagine, 50% mitigation then, right?). Except few things:

1) Misting after first 1-2 initial ticks.
2) The actual recording started when the person was nearly half hp and compared it to the one with full.

I would in fact say it was jesus beam not dealing enough damage. Im glad you are all happy now since the ability is basically useless ~ Better go back to spamming that dark cloak.

Do your own testing and recording to test otherwise, and until that happens, your words are not more valid than anyone else here. ty good sir.

Ara_Valleria

hammayolettuce wrote: »

Updated with better footage


These clips were recorded 4/20 after the 2.0.6 update. Mist form should mitigate %75 of all incoming damage which it does for every ability accept these two. It also seems apparent that mist form and undeath do not stack as well (unsure if intended). The main [Bug] of discussion is the Radiant channeled execute fully penetrating (not being mitigated the full 75) from mist form and not being mitigated like other attacks and or executes.

Thank you for watching and I hope Zenimax fixes the issues or at least comments on this issue on the forums.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w9Z0lJuCPo


Posted for Princess Asgari.

Its called Jesus Beam for a reason.

#Can'tMitigateTheLord'sWrath
#RepentSinner