[Rogues Folio] Thieves' Maps (All Cities) & Thievery Guide [Updated 1/14/16]

Anemonean

UrQuan wrote: »

Wow, I just found this thread, and I freaking love the work you've done on these maps... So very cool.

Of course, to be truly immersive they wouldn't have the legend telling you what the symbols all mean - you'd have to be taught that by other members of your thieves' guild, and keep it in memory. That way, any authorities who found the map would have no incriminating evidence of what the symbols meant, and you might be able to talk your way out of some time in the stocks, or losing a hand.

But I think the convenience of being able to know what symbol means what probably outweighs that little bit of immersiveness

Thanks for the kind words!

I know this is tongue firmly in cheek, but I had thought about it. I had considerations of including the book in the about page and making players go back and forth/memorize it. Hell, thought about no key at all so people could reckon the symbols themselves through trial and error.
But I think you gotta draw the line so it's difficult enough that people are intrigued but not so difficult they don't give a ***.

There is, I'll say, more to the story of the thief's journey in between the lines, the haphazzard way he/she travels Tamriel is intentional-ish.

PaulD

Looks like excellent work! Haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but it looks grand.

Anemonean

A quick bump for new console player visibility and an update. Took a quick break but expect to have the last three maps (Daggerfall city, rawl'kha, and belkarth) done this coming week. Keep stealing my brothers and sisters in shadow!

seroso

Lovely design & execution -- especially those individual border ornaments.
Keep it up, my shadowy friend.

Uzdo

Awesome maps!
Making Black Market Mogul achievement was easier with your maps.
Thanks.

OzJohnD

This is what thieves and beggars do ... use a coded mark to inform. Guild members learn what the marks mean ... coming here means you are coming to the mark reading lessons

the maps don't make you a better thief nor do they make it easier to not be caught

Simply gorgeous ... you need to get these published imo

LillyAngel

I have never done pickpocketing or stealing myself as i've just been to busy levelling but you really make me to try it out Seems like lots of fun. Also, this really looks like some serious work. Keep it up.

I've always admired people that spent their time doing game guides and other helpful stuff, thank you so much.

BlackEar

Bookmarked! Thank you for this - excellent and I love it.

Using it to get the Black Market Mogul achievement
Can I put a link to this thread / website in my signature ?

Anemonean

@BlackEar Yes of course! And thanks for the support. Real life got in the way of finishing the last few maps but I haven't abandoned the project, should be out soonish

Contraptions

Great work! I've been compiling a list of lockbox locations for the UESP as well, and your maps have proven very helpful indeed.

I have a small question though. For Elden Root Mages guild, do you remember where the two lockboxes are? I know one is near the beds, but can't seem to find the second one.

Any hints to its location would be much appreciated!

alaiham2002

maryriv wrote: »

What's with all the eyes in triangles, you some kind of illuminati or something?

I think he is following the thieves guild marks like the ones in Skyrim.they are also mentioned in a book where the thieves guild npc's live.

alaiham2002

BTW great work in this,

Anemonean

alaiham2002 wrote: »

maryriv wrote: »

What's with all the eyes in triangles, you some kind of illuminati or something?

I think he is following the thieves guild marks like the ones in Skyrim.they are also mentioned in a book where the thieves guild npc's live.

nope, I'm def an Illuminati.

haha, yes it's all inspired by Skyrim's shadow marks adjusted in meaning to fit my needs. In Riften's little text thing I tried to make it a sort of origin story for shadow marks.

Anemonean

Contraptions wrote: »

Great work! I've been compiling a list of lockbox locations for the UESP as well, and your maps have proven very helpful indeed.

I have a small question though. For Elden Root Mages guild, do you remember where the two lockboxes are? I know one is near the beds, but can't seem to find the second one.

Any hints to its location would be much appreciated!

Lemme check my addon data tonight when I get back on, (I'm getting fighters guild and mages guild chests mixed up in my head and I forget if it's on a table or not) I'll check tonight and send ya a pm. I recorded the data thanks to 'chest master 9000' addon btw if you don't already have it, its sooo helpfull.

Glad someone is compiling this data on the wiki! you're doin' gods work son.

thenichir

Nice guide before this I mainly did stuff in Reaper's march. Sticking to DB and thief guild style as my bounty on my main is more than I have money on my all characters combined, created it for those guilds in advance anyway

Chapmaaaan

v nice. will you be making one for the delves in Cyrodiil?

BlackEar

Anemonean wrote: »

Lemme check my addon data tonight when I get back on, (I'm getting fighters guild and mages guild chests mixed up in my head and I forget if it's on a table or not) I'll check tonight and send ya a pm. I recorded the data thanks to 'chest master 9000' addon btw if you don't already have it, its sooo helpfull.

Glad someone is compiling this data on the wiki! you're doin' gods work son.

This is off topic regarding lockboxes but I am in desperate need of an addon that shows and/or saves with the help of other player' information the location of every post and note in Tamriel.

I am not talking Mages Guild I am talking the general eidetic memory with ove 2320 notes.
Is it possible to create such an addon by example pooling a database from different players?

Anemonean

BlackEar wrote: »

Anemonean wrote: »

Lemme check my addon data tonight when I get back on, (I'm getting fighters guild and mages guild chests mixed up in my head and I forget if it's on a table or not) I'll check tonight and send ya a pm. I recorded the data thanks to 'chest master 9000' addon btw if you don't already have it, its sooo helpfull.

Glad someone is compiling this data on the wiki! you're doin' gods work son.

This is off topic regarding lockboxes but I am in desperate need of an addon that shows and/or saves with the help of other player' information the location of every post and note in Tamriel.

I am not talking Mages Guild I am talking the general eidetic memory with ove 2320 notes.
Is it possible to create such an addon by example pooling a database from different players?

Sadly, nothing I can think of. I dont think ESOhead records the non-lore book locations. Someone on reddit was talking about making one but have no idea what its called or if it's available
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2to58r/eidetic_memory_addon/

BlackEar

Anemonean wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

Anemonean wrote: »

Lemme check my addon data tonight when I get back on, (I'm getting fighters guild and mages guild chests mixed up in my head and I forget if it's on a table or not) I'll check tonight and send ya a pm. I recorded the data thanks to 'chest master 9000' addon btw if you don't already have it, its sooo helpfull.

Glad someone is compiling this data on the wiki! you're doin' gods work son.

This is off topic regarding lockboxes but I am in desperate need of an addon that shows and/or saves with the help of other player' information the location of every post and note in Tamriel.

I am not talking Mages Guild I am talking the general eidetic memory with ove 2320 notes.
Is it possible to create such an addon by example pooling a database from different players?

Sadly, nothing I can think of. I dont think ESOhead records the non-lore book locations. Someone on reddit was talking about making one but have no idea what its called or if it's available
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2to58r/eidetic_memory_addon/

Thank you for looking into it. I guess I'll either have to manually search on ESOHEAD (they have some locations uploaded) or find them myself. Or wait for someone to make the addon, since I do not know how to do it myself.

Anemonean

Hey guys, got a new map up today (after a bit of work related hiatus). Here's the Dominion faction's final city RAWL'KHA

First post updated accordingly. Happy hunting!

Kammakazi

bump

Drax76

Have you applied for Thieves' Guild Master yet?

BlackEar

Finally getting the Black Market Mogul tomorrow!
Your guide helped me plan the optimal route so thank you for that

Drax76

This is an awesome thieving resource. I've already recommended it to all of my disreputable guildies.

dodgehopper_ESO

This is definitely really cool. I haven't looked at this before, but it meshes well with some of the routes I like to take. (I've got a few of my own things I like to do as well). I definitely think the art and theme behind this is fantastic though, and it reminds me a lot of the "Thief" series with Garret. Fantastic work.

Anemonean

bump for 2 new maps, Belkarth & Daggerfall. Orsinium coming soon!

Anemonean

bump, just finished Orsinium map, check the first post under the MISC section!

Much faster than expected. Please let me know if you spot any omissions.

Anemonean

Two new sections added,

First a guide which is still in progress and only covers the intro and lockpicking so far but seeks to have all the legerdemain, sneaking & thievery info you could ever need or want and also strives to be fully illustrated both with in-game and zos' art and my own. Even has its own lockpick simulator (made by a fellow redditor)!
Legerdemain & Thievery Guide(work in progress)


The other section is for you more fiction minded players. Had a lot of emails on the site and reddit pms and even forum messages about liking the little stories and city descriptions I put with each map (some people even liked em more than the maps, hah). In the back of my mind there's always been a sort of plot that followed the order I did the maps in. Well, the order was random but I built the story as I went, art imitates life, ya know? Anyway, this is firmly fan-fiction so if that isn't your cup of tea then ya won't get *** all from this, I'm afraid.
I will say it doesn't excite cringing like some fan-fics nor does it dwell in unsavory erp waters (shudder) and further still its grammar & spelling are not as bad as my forum posts. I really tried to make it the same quality as the little city blurbs. Hold myself to a high standard, yadda yadda.

Can safely say its a better story than twilight. Though I understand that is "damning with faint praise"

Anyway, this is still in progress too and only coveres the events leading up to the first map(About 5 chapters total). Lil' back story here, lil mayhem there, lil horrible arrest and torture over there, lil' escaping for your life from submerging sand prisons. et cetera et cetera.
Features some characters like the trusty camel, Ush Ush and a pretty dope Khajiit who speaks in my best attempt at Ta'agra (the khajiit language from Redguard adventures). I crammed ALOT of lore into this, just as I did with the city passages and I think half the fun is finding it all. It really made for people like me who love the elder scrolls lore, straight up, no diggity. Also wrote it for people who love being told bedtime stories and if people dig I'll continue it along for the whole journey, weaving through the maps and tying in to each cities respective journal entries. I got big plans for mournhold. Anyway, here it is:
Fiction about the Thiefs Origins
Its great for morning commutes (Unless you're driving) and formats nicely on phones (or at least my phone)
Would love to hear what y'all think. But then again this is the guide section not "rp & fiction" so, you know, no pressure.

I've added both these sections to the main page. Thanks again and happy thieving. >>>--->

Anemonean

Added 3 new chapters to the fiction section, bringing the backstory up to the point where the first map (Sentinel) is made.

Did some updating to the thieving guide

Anemonean

The first part of the fiction section is complete! Chapters 1-8
also
The second part of the fiction section is underway and is updated with new content every week, see how the story unfolds!

first post updated accordingly