What DON'T you want to see in the crown store?

Moonscythe

I have seen mention of barber shop, race change and name change mentioned as features to be added to the crown shop. I hate that idea! Maybe a race change since that essentially sends you back to the character creation page but not the other. Even Neverwinter will let you change your character name and heaven knows there should be some way to easily fix a poorly thought out name. As for the barber shop, hair color and style, tattoos, and adornments should be as changeable as the weather without requiring real money. It shouldn't even require massive game money since that would impact low level players who really want it the most.

asteldian

Gear.
As for cosmetic changes, they announced it coming to the store but haven't said it won't be in game for gold too.

MissBizz

Crafting improvement materials.

starkerealm

MissBizz wrote: »

Crafting improvement materials.

This. Very much this. I'm already on the fence because of the motifs. Upgrade materials or trait packs would definitely send me over the edge.

Faulgor

EXP/AP/Gold booster
Motifs
Crafting ingredients/improvements
Gear

bellanca6561n

Well, MissBizz certainly got an avatar makeover. But it didn't cost much

Gear....of course. Especially rare drops.

I would have said all drops that serve as game rewards but that's happened already.

But I've given up on this. There is a sensibility required for this that requires being in touch with your community. I'd reckon the developers have it. Many of the support folks play the game like crazy too. Folks in marketing and merchandising, however, have rarely had it in my experience.

Danikat

I agree that gear, crafting ingredients and improvements and motifs should stay out of the crown store.

With XP, gold etc. boosters I think it depends on how exactly it works. If it's small enough that it doesn't make a big difference, like the existing 10% boosts (and there's a limit on how many of them you can stack) or restrictive enough that again it won't make a big difference, like it only grants extra XP from specific sources and you can't just spam it then it's fine. The datamined +50% XP potion would be a terrible idea.

Things like name changes and appearance changes I don't mind being in the crown store. It would be nice if there was a way to get them in game as well but even for people like me who will delete and remake characters multiple times to get them exactly right they're not essential. I also think name changes should be restricted in some way to stop people abusing them to troll people, steal everything in a guild bank and then change their name so no one will recognise them etc. and making them expensive enough that they're not an impulse buy for most people is an effective way of doing that.

golfer.dub17_ESO

-Gear
-Appearance Changes (belongs in-game)
-Player Housing (belongs in-game)
-Materials
-Anything gaudy (Male dresses, silly emotes, etc)

kevlarto_ESO

My beloved Fart Emote LOL any kind of armor or weapons with stats, keep it pure cosmetic, outside of that I don't really care what they put in the store as long as it does not become a requirement for me to purchase as long as I have sub.

MissBizz

bellanca6561n wrote: »

Well, MissBizz certainly got an avatar makeover. But it didn't cost much

I just started noticing a LOT of people with my old one, not trying to trick anyone The thought did occur to me it could mess someone up though.. as avatars are a good way to remember someone. @bellanca6561n Plus.. this is my favourite mount and the selection when I first signed up was.. lacking.

Oh, while we're on the crown store topic... it has been mentioned that some items would be available for crowns OR in game for gold.. I would REALLY love to see that cover something NEW, rather than only cover items that have always been available in game for gold. (Ehem, barber shop and makeover services)

As for other items I wish not to see in the crown store..

• Anything that speeds up crafting research (if you want it, get a sub)
• Fishing bait (ok... they can put that garbage simple bait in there if they want)
• Anything else directly tied to an achievement (ehem, there is an achievement for knowing all motifs)
• "level up" anything. No I don't want to buy anything to level up my character/gear/ANYTHING
• Champion points
• Skill points
• Attribute points
• Any way to "upgrade" or "level up" a skill line
• Gear. Not even garbage gear. Why? After awhile it could slowly get "better" and before we know it the best stuff is in there. Gear is cheap and I know MANY crafters you will make you gear for free or just for some of the mats. Go make a friend.

I consider some of these a no-brainer, but.. you never know.

Heishi

starkerealm wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Crafting improvement materials.

This. Very much this. I'm already on the fence because of the motifs. Upgrade materials or trait packs would definitely send me over the edge.

This^ I'm exceedingly irritated that they not only put all the motifs in the store but also completely removed the rank requirement ONLY from the crown store version. I don't usually go on about ____ is p2w, but this is strongly pushing in that direction.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO

No craft materials/upgrades, no motifs, no gear. No potions etc that would give you an edge over anyone else may it be crafting or whatever.

Davadin

Easy.

Anything non-cosmetic that can't be acquired in-game.


I personally don't care if it takes someone two bucks to get something I worked on for months to get. I really don't. Annoyed maybe, but seriously not groundbreaking at all. For me anyway.


Different story though when it's CROWN STORE ONLY, and it does affect gameplay. (Ps: different mounts or pet for me is simply texture change. So it's cosmetic.)

Islyn

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

-Gear
-Appearance Changes (belongs in-game)
-Player Housing (belongs in-game)
-Materials
-Anything gaudy (Male dresses, silly emotes, etc)

Agree except the gaudy. The orcish brides make me grin every time.

sheggorathb16_ESO

My autobiography, empty skooma bottles, dragon scales that are too heavy to carry, broken dreams...

Apart from that, obviously we dont want anything apart from cosmetics, personally I'm not even bothered about the items that make things easier. I like working hard and going at my own speed, I race through too little quests at lower levels with the exp buff... Though once it gets a little more grindy I'm sure I wont mind it. However I would certainly love to see the Senche in the crown store... since its the most popular khajiit style I'm sure it wouldnt have any trouble selling... and people who got ripped off by the help service and wasted a ton of money could finally right that wrong... just saying... They have no trouble selling the 'steam only' dog in the crown store, along with various other things that I thought were exclusive to those at the start of the game... why anything cosmetic and amazing (and that I desperately want) wouldnt be sold is beyond me. But to get back on topic I wouldnt agree with selling anything that directly affected stats, though I'm a bit edgy about the motifs. It'll be curious to see what it does to the market. I'm also a bit curious about the DLC, if you can get better gear from those then isnt it essential P2W? Or are they like paying for an ESO holiday for your character and you only come back with cheap souvenirs? In which case people will probably still complain about them being pointless... It'll be interesting to see how this works out.

NewBlacksmurf

I don't want to see these types of posts....

Pallmor

The Nord Leather Thong Costume

Davadin

Pallmor wrote: »

The Nord Leather Thong Costume

I would pay $20 for such a thong.

bellanca6561n

Heishi wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Crafting improvement materials.

This. Very much this. I'm already on the fence because of the motifs. Upgrade materials or trait packs would definitely send me over the edge.

This^ I'm exceedingly irritated that they not only put all the motifs in the store but also completely removed the rank requirement ONLY from the crown store version.

Uh....ummm.....they did....WHAT??!!

Destai

Anything beyond the following

1. Name changes.
2. Mounts (should be buyable in game only)
3. Costumes
4. Pets
5. Content Expansions (not one zone at a time like LOTRO)

In fact, just put the game back as a sub.

Islyn

bellanca6561n wrote: »

Heishi wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Crafting improvement materials.

This. Very much this. I'm already on the fence because of the motifs. Upgrade materials or trait packs would definitely send me over the edge.

This^ I'm exceedingly irritated that they not only put all the motifs in the store but also completely removed the rank requirement ONLY from the crown store version.

Uh....ummm.....they did....WHAT??!!

Yep they did.

Elsonso

bellanca6561n wrote: »

Heishi wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Crafting improvement materials.

This. Very much this. I'm already on the fence because of the motifs. Upgrade materials or trait packs would definitely send me over the edge.

This^ I'm exceedingly irritated that they not only put all the motifs in the store but also completely removed the rank requirement ONLY from the crown store version.

Uh....ummm.....they did....WHAT??!!

What rock were you hiding under?

Yeah, the Dwemer motif (I have not looked at the others) is better than what is in the game. It is an all-in-one motif that is so rare in the game that they have called it the rarest item in the game, and requires Rank 1 (first craft passive) to use. The in-game version requires Rank 9 and you need 14 of them to get the same as what is being sold in the store.

I do not have a problem with the common racial motifs, they should be dirt easy to get to anyone who does Cadwell (hack spit) and the store versions can simply make that easier. Imperial should also be common. Motifs are cosmetic, so this is fair play to me.

But the rare ones, and the achievement that goes with learning them, should never have been put in the store.

Sylvyr

From Matt Firor:

“I want to take a moment and talk about the philosophy we use to determine the types of items we put in the store—you’ve heard us refer to them as “customization and convenience” items before. Simply put, this means that an item in the Crown Store serves one of two purposes: it either provides a visual upgrade or distinction for your character, or it provides a way to save time at the expense of spending crowns. When it comes to this second category of items, we generally will make in-game variants of similar items available either as drops or as player-craftable items, as well.”

from Road Ahead Feb

Saltypretzels

Sylvyr wrote: »

From Matt Firor:

“I want to take a moment and talk about the philosophy we use to determine the types of items we put in the store—you’ve heard us refer to them as “customization and convenience” items before. Simply put, this means that an item in the Crown Store serves one of two purposes: it either provides a visual upgrade or distinction for your character, or it provides a way to save time at the expense of spending crowns. When it comes to this second category of items, we generally will make in-game variants of similar items available either as drops or as player-craftable items, as well.”

from Road Ahead Feb

Let's see... what would save a player time? XP boosts. Automatic levels. Automatic CP. Researched traits. Anything that could be purchased with gold in game. All of those things are basically pay-to-not-play-the-game and things that would drive me away from the game.

Basically, their definition of convenience gives them license to do whatever they want (not that they need our permission, but they will have to deal with the ramifications of cheapening the game experience).

Heishi

lordrichter wrote: »

bellanca6561n wrote: »

Heishi wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Crafting improvement materials.

This. Very much this. I'm already on the fence because of the motifs. Upgrade materials or trait packs would definitely send me over the edge.

This^ I'm exceedingly irritated that they not only put all the motifs in the store but also completely removed the rank requirement ONLY from the crown store version.

Uh....ummm.....they did....WHAT??!!

What rock were you hiding under?

Yeah, the Dwemer motif (I have not looked at the others) is better than what is in the game. It is an all-in-one motif that is so rare in the game that they have called it the rarest item in the game, and requires Rank 1 (first craft passive) to use. The in-game version requires Rank 9 and you need 14 of them to get the same as what is being sold in the store.

I do not have a problem with the common racial motifs, they should be dirt easy to get to anyone who does Cadwell (hack spit) and the store versions can simply make that easier. Imperial should also be common. Motifs are cosmetic, so this is fair play to me.

But the rare ones, and the achievement that goes with learning them, should never have been put in the store.

I could go with having the common racial motifs in the store. You can get those at any level, pretty much anywhere, and use them anytime. In fact this could be a nice alternative for people who were complaining about it being harder to get them without stealing. I agree about the Imperial as well, I've always thought it should be common.

utzpretzels wrote: »

Sylvyr wrote: »

From Matt Firor:

“I want to take a moment and talk about the philosophy we use to determine the types of items we put in the store—you’ve heard us refer to them as “customization and convenience” items before. Simply put, this means that an item in the Crown Store serves one of two purposes: it either provides a visual upgrade or distinction for your character, or it provides a way to save time at the expense of spending crowns. When it comes to this second category of items, we generally will make in-game variants of similar items available either as drops or as player-craftable items, as well.”

from Road Ahead Feb

Let's see... what would save a player time? XP boosts. Automatic levels. Automatic CP. Researched traits. Anything that could be purchased with gold in game. All of those things are basically pay-to-not-play-the-game and things that would drive me away from the game.

Basically, their definition of convenience gives them license to do whatever they want (not that they need our permission, but they will have to deal with the ramifications of cheapening the game experience).

Definately this. Gold farmers are a convenience, are they going to allow them back as well? Where are they going to draw the line on convenience? $50 and you get an instant VR14 char with max CP, all skill points, 5mil gold, all bank upgrades, and 1 stack of each type of mat in the game. Sounds pretty convenient to me? It meets the qualifications: "it provides a way to save time at the expense of spending crowns..

Zershar_Vemod

What is already being added / is planned to be added in the near future.

Jaxsun

The crown store

Zershar_Vemod

Jaxsun wrote: »

The crown store

This too.

Nifty2g

they'll bring gear in, but it wont be set gear, probably just crappy gear for low level casual players with no gold

Audigy

I want to say that all I mention is a "if not also in game for Gold" statement.

- Barber Shop
- Bank & Char slots
- Entry to pvp or pve zones
- New Crafting motifs, materials
- Lockboxes with special rewards

What I don't mind is,

- Full Chars
- XP Potions
- Items that drop in dungeons
- Gold or any of the current trade goods

NewBlacksmurf

utzpretzels wrote: »

Sylvyr wrote: »

From Matt Firor:

“I want to take a moment and talk about the philosophy we use to determine the types of items we put in the store—you’ve heard us refer to them as “customization and convenience” items before. Simply put, this means that an item in the Crown Store serves one of two purposes: it either provides a visual upgrade or distinction for your character, or it provides a way to save time at the expense of spending crowns. When it comes to this second category of items, we generally will make in-game variants of similar items available either as drops or as player-craftable items, as well.”

from Road Ahead Feb

Let's see... what would save a player time? XP boosts. Automatic levels. Automatic CP. Researched traits. Anything that could be purchased with gold in game. All of those things are basically pay-to-not-play-the-game and things that would drive me away from the game.

Basically, their definition of convenience gives them license to do whatever they want (not that they need our permission, but they will have to deal with the ramifications of cheapening the game experience).

It's optional...unless you desire to leave because another person is choosing to purchase those items.
Why does another players buying habits bother you? There is no advantage or disadvantage vs you