Please reduce XP needed in VR levels!

titanofdoom

As per title...

So, i really enjoyed getting to VR1. The levelling pace was decent and enjoyable. Then I made VR and realised with horror I needed 1 million XP to obtain VR2!!

While I fully understand why they did this (so you can experience the other factions zones via silver / gold). Doing this, makes alting rather obsolete don't you think? I am something of a self confessed alt-a-holic, and would like to experience the other zones with a new class.

I know by now, this thread is a commonplace and no doubt I'll be flamed for it...but I really cannot put the time in now (I have a life and family) to grind / quest through other zones just to obtain VR14. I idea of needed 14 million XP is offputting frankly - my grinding days are over thankyou!

So I guess I'll be alting until VR1, wash, rinse and repeat...that makes me most lugubrious, since I really love my character and wanted to get VR14 in a more conducive and sensible way.

This is just my personal feelings, and one should have a right to express them without generating hate.

Thanks

Heishi

You're "supposed" to get about 1vr rank per main land zone. The problem comes when you get to a certain point, I think it's around VR10, you run out of zones and have to go to Craiglorn, Cyrodiil, or find other such methods to grind the last 4. I kinda get tedious though because for this to be true, you pretty much have to 100% clear each zone (bosses, dolmens, skyshards, explorer, delves, public dungeon+bosses, ect) I could see 750k being more reasonable. Or maybe set it to a curve such as 500k-VR2, 600k-VR3, 700k-VR4, 800k-VR5, 900k-VR6, 1m-VR7, 1.1m-vr8, 1.2m-VR8, 1.3m-VR9, 1.4m-VR10, 1.5m-VR11, 1.6m-VR12, 1.7m-VR13, and 1.8m-VR14

The total would come out to 16.1m rather than 13m (instead of 14m since you don't count VR1 which you start at), but you would level more in the early areas.

Junipus

Except they nerfed the XP gains in Craglorn so that if you didn't PvP, your final 6.6m VP would need to come from continual repetition of endgame content where the main quest VP is 5k for each stage.

What ZOS should do is scale the VP gain based on VR level, starting higher and going lower so that at VR1 you might get 500VP from killing a zombie but at VR13 you might only get 2-300VP for killing a similar scaled zombie. That would allow players to progress up the VR ranks until the higher levels when it would be more of a grind but with faster progression to get there.

mfrd36nrb18_ESO

So, did you know how much XP were needed at first to go through all vet ranks? They are already nerfed and if you can't get a place to grind I suggest you to keep looking, Caldwell's gold is full of them, I suggest you to keep looking.

Then you get to vr14 fast and whine about thelack iof endgame content.

Stop it already.

mfrd36nrb18_ESO

I hate replying from phone, you can put the same phrase twice without even knowing, sorry.

SHADOW2KK

titanofdoom wrote: »

As per title...

So, i really enjoyed getting to VR1. The levelling pace was decent and enjoyable. Then I made VR and realised with horror I needed 1 million XP to obtain VR2!!

While I fully understand why they did this (so you can experience the other factions zones via silver / gold). Doing this, makes alting rather obsolete don't you think? I am something of a self confessed alt-a-holic, and would like to experience the other zones with a new class.

I know by now, this thread is a commonplace and no doubt I'll be flamed for it...but I really cannot put the time in now (I have a life and family) to grind / quest through other zones just to obtain VR14. I idea of needed 14 million XP is offputting frankly - my grinding days are over thankyou!

So I guess I'll be alting until VR1, wash, rinse and repeat...that makes me most lugubrious, since I really love my character and wanted to get VR14 in a more conducive and sensible way.

This is just my personal feelings, and one should have a right to express them without generating hate.

Thanks

I can understand your POV, but its already been nerfed, 1 million xp per vet level is not as bad as it used to be before, when my main finally hit vr14, I played with him for absolutely ages, as I hate grinding, until xp got nerfed then built another alt to vr14 and it was a lot less painful hehe.

No hate here, we all got personal feelings about the game and everyone imo has a right to express them.

Artemiisia

Hexi

You already overlevel the zones bv roughly half a level. You are always vr lvl of the next zone roughly halfway or 60-70% through the zone if you do everything.

Simply, the exp needed is where it's supposed to be in contrast to the amount of content there is.

Merlin13KAGL

Yeah, they already did.

You find it odd that they have 10 zones that grant 10 levels, then provide an additional zone (Crag) for some of the rest?

You can be a zone and a half over leveled before 50 without really trying, unless you're skipping a lot of content. If you're skipping a lot of content, you've nothing to complain about.

Don't wanna grind? Don't grind. There are 50 dailies in Cyrodiil involving zero PvP which grant about 5k each. That's a quarter of a vet level a day for some legwork - more when you include the mobs you'll have to clear for some of it. (Also, that ends up being 1.5 million enlightened XP's. Show up 2/3 days and in 6 days you'll have 15 CP's and a vet level...for PvE.)

There are also other repeatable's - you can redo dungeons, delves...friggin' crafting writs give you XP's.

1,000,000 XP's is cheap. I don't understand why some seem to think you need to be able to hit max level in a weekend.

EDIT: Let's not forget that certain achievements grant XP's now too...

zeuseason

VR levels are a chore for sure, and reducing the XP requirement might make it more manageable. Remember, players like to experience progress. Look at WoW for example, and the current VR leveling has progress too far spaced out to be enjoyable and keep players playing.

Qyrk

@titanofdoom
Every vet zone is roughly 1 level as oppose to previous zones (level 1-50) where one zone will get you 4-5 levels (more or less). This change might be a bit of a surprised, but you get used to it. NO GRINDING is even required, just do the quest (play the game and you'll gain the levels)

I also want to put it to your attention to the following threads. This will make you realize that the game is already too easy (and rightfully so as the difficulty has been nerfed a long time ago - which sucks for some of us that liked the original difficulty). Making exp more available in vet zones (to level quicker) so you can gain higher veteran ranks than the level of what is required to complete each zone is just asking for too much, might as well ask for an instant v14 potion from ZOS (which is never going to happen). Honestly enjoy the game. You are only v1, getting a veteran level may take you an hour and a half to three hours of completing one whole veteran map just doing quests, no grind is required!


ESO PVE difficulty is so easy it's frustrating
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/160656/eso-pve-difficulty-so-easy-its-frustrating-video-included

Girlfriend's Reaction to ESO: Game too easy
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/154143/girlfriends-reaction-to-eso-game-too-easy

This game is TOO easy (PVE)
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/156020/this-game-is-too-easy-pve


Honestly, many players these days are looking for easy way out to gain max level. Long gone are the days of EQ where getting a level takes days and getting killed continuously might make you lose exp (or even a level!)

Elara_Northwind

Qyrk wrote: »

@titanofdoom
Every vet zone is roughly 1 level as oppose to previous zones (level 1-50) where one zone will get you 4-5 levels (more or less). This change might be a bit of a surprised, but you get used to it. NO GRINDING is even required, just do the quest (play the game and you'll gain the levels)

I also want to put it to your attention to the following threads. This will make you realize that the game is already too easy (and rightfully so as the difficulty has been nerfed a long time ago - which sucks for some of us that liked the original difficulty). Making exp more available in vet zones (to level quicker) so you can gain higher veteran ranks than the level of what is required to complete each zone is just asking for too much, might as well ask for an instant v14 potion from ZOS (which is never going to happen). Honestly enjoy the game. You are only v1, getting a veteran level may take you an hour and a half to three hours of completing one whole veteran map just doing quests, no grind is required!


ESO PVE difficulty is so easy it's frustrating
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/160656/eso-pve-difficulty-so-easy-its-frustrating-video-included

Girlfriend's Reaction to ESO: Game too easy
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/154143/girlfriends-reaction-to-eso-game-too-easy

This game is TOO easy (PVE)
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/156020/this-game-is-too-easy-pve


Honestly, many players these days are looking for easy way out to gain max level. Long gone are the days of EQ where getting a level takes days and getting killed continuously might make you lose exp (or even a level!)

I so agree with this. The game is FAR too easy. With my second character, I purposely completed cadwells silver and did no other quests in the second alliance zones so that I could get to the third alliance and have more of a challenge, but soloing a vet10 dolmen at vet4 was the last straw for me (surely that shouldn't even be possible!?) and the grind after completing gold was so painful, as this was before the update and so completing the lower level quests was giving pitiful xp! They even scale the instanced areas for mages and fighters guild quests now, so that those of us who enjoy a challenge are a little screwed really... There should definitely be an option for increasing the difficulty somehow without missing out on xp by skipping zones..

SHADOW2KK

Qyrk wrote: »

@titanofdoom
Every vet zone is roughly 1 level as oppose to previous zones (level 1-50) where one zone will get you 4-5 levels (more or less). This change might be a bit of a surprised, but you get used to it. NO GRINDING is even required, just do the quest (play the game and you'll gain the levels)

I also want to put it to your attention to the following threads. This will make you realize that the game is already too easy (and rightfully so as the difficulty has been nerfed a long time ago - which sucks for some of us that liked the original difficulty). Making exp more available in vet zones (to level quicker) so you can gain higher veteran ranks than the level of what is required to complete each zone is just asking for too much, might as well ask for an instant v14 potion from ZOS (which is never going to happen). Honestly enjoy the game. You are only v1, getting a veteran level may take you an hour and a half to three hours of completing one whole veteran map just doing quests, no grind is required!


ESO PVE difficulty is so easy it's frustrating
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/160656/eso-pve-difficulty-so-easy-its-frustrating-video-included

Girlfriend's Reaction to ESO: Game too easy
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/154143/girlfriends-reaction-to-eso-game-too-easy

This game is TOO easy (PVE)
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/156020/this-game-is-too-easy-pve


Honestly, many players these days are looking for easy way out to gain max level. Long gone are the days of EQ where getting a level takes days and getting killed continuously might make you lose exp (or even a level!)

To be fair, IMO, Zeni is in a impossible position, if they make things more difficult to pander to the ones who think pve is too easy, then it will enrage the instant gratification crew, then vica versa, and making things too easy...well you get the idea...

It is what it is, I get round it by going on PvP and killing people, well ....PvP has its own problems as well...

For the ones who wanna get to vr14, you can either quest, grind or go PvP, you will eventually get to vr14.

But the xp is nerfed a lot, 1 million xp is not that bad tbh, compared to, as I have previously stated, the old days...

You will get there, do what you wanna do.

Merlin13KAGL

Last character I made I was level 8 before I set foot in the first non-starter zone. You can be level 4 before you exit Coldharbor.

Vet zones + dungeons + achieves from dungeons give more than enough to hit VR14 in a reasonable amount of time.

There are more than enough XP's.

xarguideb17_ESO

They did reduce the exp required to level, however they also reduced the exp gained. Some say the latter got more nerfed so in that way VR ranks are even harder to get now.

Yes, the game is so easy it's stupid. I really miss the original difficulty. Maybe there's a chance to make it happen with help of crown store?

Make me a potion that increases damage taken from NPC-s 2x, but also increases exp gained 2x for 2 hours.
I'd buy it.
Hardcore Potion.

Johngo0036

Why the hell are you all asking for things to be nerfed,

Just suck it in and do what needs to be done.

I have done it with 3 characters already and am doing it with 3 others now.

It IS the way it IS,
Really

TequilaFire

Work on killing all the mobs in each zone while working on the Monster Hunter achievement and you will gain a vet level per zone.
As a bonus you will get gold and drops for decon from all the mobs you kill.
If you play stealthy and sneak by most overland and quest mobs you may end up short xp for a vet level.

Rune_Relic

Vr levels wil be removed in Phase 4.
Silver and Gold will be optional content
SOON[tm]

DerpyShadowz

Just be thankful you dont have to do the old exp values of 4.5million, 5 million....

-____-

olsborg

Yea , VR levels is a hassle now, bleh.