Enlightment issue

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  • nerevarine1138
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    There is your problem. That is NOT THE POOL AT ALL.

    That is your current character's Champion XP Bar. That is PER CHARACTER as I said in my first post.

    You are confused.

    He's actually correct about that, but he's misstating his issue.

    The portion of the bar with the arrow does indicate that the character is gaining Champion XP at an enlightened rate. If they weren't, the bar wouldn't have that light coloring.

    But as far as I know, there is no way for that bar to only partially be colored in like that. Either the rest of the CP is going to be earned with enlightened XP, or none of it is.
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  • onlinegamer1
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    I don't know any other way of saying this:

    That screenshot shows something called the "Champion XP Bar". It shows your CHARACTER'S INDIVIDUAL PROGRESS towards earning another Champion Point. The bar is a 400,000 XP bar (like your main XP bar is a 1,000,000 XP bar). The highlighted portion of the bar in the screenshot is merely showing the CURRENT XP which THAT CHARACTER has earned towards that 400,000 end point.

    Again, the default UI of ESO does NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM show you your Enlightenment Pool. You have to use an AddOn for that.
  • nerevarine1138
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    I don't know any other way of saying this:

    That screenshot shows something called the "Champion XP Bar". It shows your CHARACTER'S INDIVIDUAL PROGRESS towards earning another Champion Point. The bar is a 400,000 XP bar (like your main XP bar is a 1,000,000 XP bar). The highlighted portion of the bar in the screenshot is merely showing the CURRENT XP which THAT CHARACTER has earned towards that 400,000 end point.

    Again, the default UI of ESO does NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM show you your Enlightenment Pool. You have to use an AddOn for that.

    I'm aware that it doesn't show the actual amount of XP in the total enlightenment pool in numerical form.

    BUT the image posted is technically showing, visually, that the character is earning Champion XP at an enlightened rate. The light coloring of the remainder of the bar indicates that.

    Just to make sure that you don't jump down my throat again: I agree with you. The OP is horribly confused about how enlightenment works and is displayed. But the actual image he linked does show enlightenment.
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  • onlinegamer1
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    I'm aware that it doesn't show the actual amount of XP in the total enlightenment pool in numerical form.

    BUT the image posted is technically showing, visually, that the character is earning Champion XP at an enlightened rate. The light coloring of the remainder of the bar indicates that.

    Just to make sure that you don't jump down my throat again: I agree with you. The OP is horribly confused about how enlightenment works and is displayed. But the actual image he linked does show enlightenment.

    OK, I see. To the OP, the pic shows "the enlightened STATE", but not the "enlightened POOL amount". For that, you need an addOn.
  • henryabelarwb17_ESO

    There is your problem. That is NOT THE POOL AT ALL.

    That is your current character's Champion XP Bar. That is PER CHARACTER as I said in my first post.

    You are confused.

    That is the POOL!!!!! look at it after 1CP gain...

    http://www.maleth.com/pool1.jpg
    Edited by henryabelarwb17_ESO on April 6, 2015 2:19PM
  • onlinegamer1
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    That is the POOL!!!!! look at it after 1CP gain...

    http://www.malubeth.com/pool1.jpg

    I am right, and you are wrong. Please re-read that until it sinks in.
  • henryabelarwb17_ESO
    Geez... You are WRONG! look at the image again and compare the two... if u dont get it you are an idiot
  • onlinegamer1
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    Geez... You are WRONG! look at the image again and compare the two... if u dont get it you are an idiot

    I can explain how it works to you, but I can't understand it for you.
  • henryabelarwb17_ESO
    Blimey! The darker shade of colour represents the pool, I always check it when I am enlightened, fter it reches the end of the dark orange the enlightment ends... its the POOL!!!!!
  • onlinegamer1
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    Blimey! The darker shade of colour represents the pool, I always check it when I am enlightened, fter it reches the end of the dark orange the enlightment ends... its the POOL!!!!!

    Incorrect, as explained to you multiple times.
  • Nestor
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    Takhistis wrote: »
    But I've been enlightened for 6 CP's straight, since friday. every time I hovered my mouse over the CP bar, it said enlightened and everytime I got exp, I got 4x more toward my CP gain. This is my first and only character, and friday I hit VR1.
    This doesn't seem normal, and although most people would stay quiet about it and enjoy it, I'd rather make sure I don't misunderstand it.

    Once you get about 4 CPs in one play session, you will see your Enlightenment go away. Until then, unless you use up the 4 CPs in a session, you will always carry over some Enlightenment from one log in to another. It was not until I used up 4CPs in one day that I got a limited amount of CPs on the next session.

    Since I tend to get 2 or 3 CPs per session of play each day, I tend to remain "perma-enlightened".

    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

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  • henryabelarwb17_ESO
    Last try...

    http://www.maleth.com/pool2.jpg

    For the last time... I am not confused at all... and I am not saying it gives you an amount but it gives you an indication of how much you have left before you get unenlightened... The problem I had is that when i switch between alts the dark bar shortened...



    Edited by henryabelarwb17_ESO on April 6, 2015 2:37PM
  • Valymer
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    The shaded, unfilled (by exp) portion of the bar does indeed show you how much enlightenment you have remaining, but only as far as your next CP. You can't see beyond that without addons.

    It is possible for the bar to be partially shaded with enlightenment, as shown in the last pic above.

    But if your amount of shaded Enlightenment is changing when you change characters, that sounds like a bug.

    The linear distance from the end of the EXP portion of the CP bar and the end of the shaded enlightenment portion of the bar should, in theory, be consistent among all alts if enlightenment is account-wide.
  • henryabelarwb17_ESO
    Valymer wrote: »
    The shaded, unfilled (by exp) portion of the bar does indeed show you how much enlightenment you have remaining, but only as far as your next CP. You can't see beyond that without addons.

    It is possible for the bar to be partially shaded with enlightenment, as shown in the last pic above.

    But if your amount of shaded Enlightenment is changing when you change characters, that sounds like a bug.

    The linear distance from the end of the EXP portion of the CP bar and the end of the shaded enlightenment portion of the bar should, in theory, be consistent among all alts if enlightenment is account-wide.

    At last someone that understood :) it is changing when I switch between alts...
  • dido9880ub17_ESO
    Well it depends on how much of the bar is left to be filled. It will be different on different alts and if the amount of enlightenment is less than the xp needed to get a cp on one character is more or less than needed on another the amount of unenlightened xp will be different.
  • Valymer
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    Well it depends on how much of the bar is left to be filled. It will be different on different alts and if the amount of enlightenment is less than the xp needed to get a cp on one character is more or less than needed on another the amount of unenlightened xp will be different.

    Yes, but if enlightenment is account-wide then the numerical value of current enlightenment should not change.

    Example:

    Your main has 200k of exp and 100k of enlightenment (the shaded enlightenment extends 3/4 of the way to the end of bar).

    Your VR alt has 100k of exp, which means that his shaded enlightenment should extend 1/2 of the way to the end of the bar. Because it is the same 100k that your main had.
  • henryabelarwb17_ESO
    Well it depends on how much of the bar is left to be filled. It will be different on different alts and if the amount of enlightenment is less than the xp needed to get a cp on one character is more or less than needed on another the amount of unenlightened xp will be different.

    They should be the same if its account wide... If I stayed on my first alt i would have reached 1 cp before i got unenlightenend but when i switched the amount decreased by like 50% so if on 1st alt was liek 10% light blue and 90% darker blue (enlightment status) on 2nd character it became 60% light blue and like 10% enlightment (dark) and rest (30%) till CP point black
    Edited by henryabelarwb17_ESO on April 6, 2015 2:54PM
  • Takhistis
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    Even though I hit VR1 friday, my "pool" seems to be lit for 6 CP's non stop... in 3 days...
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  • AlnilamE
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    OP, what I have noticed is that, if you have less than 100K of enlightenment left, it will display differently on different toons depending on how much XP they've already earned towards a champion point.

    For example, say I have 50K enlightenment left and I'm on Alnibis, who is 50% towards her next CP. The bar will show enlightenment all the way to the end (because there is enough enlightenment to grant her that point).

    If I switch to Potion Ivy, who is only 25% of the way to her next CP, the bar will show enlightenment up to the 75% point (25% + 50K) and then it will be black to the end.

    Is that what is happening to you? Because it sounded from what you described that the opposite was happening.
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  • Leeric
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    This stuff is so hard to explain... lets say i logge don my 1st alt and had 100,000 pool, when i log on 2nd alt like 2min after with no exp gain etc... the pool becomes like 20k... hope u understand :)

    We understand, and has been explained to you multiple times by multiple people.
    It doesnt show your enlightenment pool, that is your champion pool, which people have also told you, multiple times...cmon man.
  • henryabelarwb17_ESO
    Leeric wrote: »

    We understand, and has been explained to you multiple times by multiple people.
    It doesnt show your enlightenment pool, that is your champion pool, which people have also told you, multiple times...cmon man.

    Call it what you like... The thing is it should not shorten... if you have a full bar that will get you to the next CP point why shuld it get shorter when you switch on an alt????
  • Valymer
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    Leeric wrote: »

    We understand, and has been explained to you multiple times by multiple people.
    It doesnt show your enlightenment pool, that is your champion pool, which people have also told you, multiple times...cmon man.

    But it does show your enlightenment pool. Can you guys not see the shaded area?
  • Leeric
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    Call it what you like... The thing is it should not shorten... if you have a full bar that will get you to the next CP point why shuld it get shorter when you switch on an alt????

    lol I am not going to explain it to you, when everyone has. If you dont get it, you dont get it, although I wouldn't call people an idiot since you dont know how to explain or understand things.
    Edited by Leeric on April 6, 2015 3:06PM
  • henryabelarwb17_ESO
    AlnilamE wrote: »
    OP, what I have noticed is that, if you have less than 100K of enlightenment left, it will display differently on different toons depending on how much XP they've already earned towards a champion point.

    For example, say I have 50K enlightenment left and I'm on Alnibis, who is 50% towards her next CP. The bar will show enlightenment all the way to the end (because there is enough enlightenment to grant her that point).

    If I switch to Potion Ivy, who is only 25% of the way to her next CP, the bar will show enlightenment up to the 75% point (25% + 50K) and then it will be black to the end.

    Is that what is happening to you? Because it sounded from what you described that the opposite was happening.

    What happened to me was I had a bar with 10%xp and 90% enlightment status (If i stayed here i would have had enlightment till i reached cp point), I switched on another alt it had like 50%XP 20% Enlightment and 30% black. Both ar v14 and nothing happened between switches...
  • Leeric
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    Takhistis wrote: »
    Even though I hit VR1 friday, my "pool" seems to be lit for 6 CP's non stop... in 3 days...

    Since its stored for a whole day up to 12 days and you can earn 1 cp per hour as enlightened. Its working normally. Also explained this earlier. See link provided in my other post.
    Edited by Leeric on April 6, 2015 3:09PM
  • henryabelarwb17_ESO
    Leeric wrote: »

    lol I am not going to explain it to you, when everyone has. If you dont get it, you dont get it, although I wouldn't call people an idiot since you dont know how to explain or understand things.

    Read this and explain it then...
    What happened to me was I had a bar with 10%xp and 90% enlightment status (If i stayed here i would have had enlightment till i reached cp point), I switched on another alt it had like 50%XP 20% Enlightment and 30% black. Both ar v14 and nothing happened between switches...
  • henryabelarwb17_ESO
    So I had to make a visual representation of how the bar changed when i switched between Alt1 to Alt 2

    http://www.maleth.com/enlight.jpg

    It should not act that way...
  • AlnilamE
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    Yeah. Did you file a bug report?
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  • Takhistis
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    Leeric wrote: »

    Since its stored for a whole day up to 12 days and you can earn 1 cp per hour as enlightened. Its working normally. Also explained this earlier. See link provided in my other post.

    But can we even store enlightenment before hitting VR1?
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  • Valymer
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    So I had to make a visual representation of how the bar changed when i switched between Alt1 to Alt 2

    http://www.maleth.com/enlight.jpg

    It should not act that way...

    Those images would seem to suggest that Enlightenment is not account-wide.

    Or, the enlightenment pool shaded indicator is not displaying its information correctly (a more likely scenario).
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