Forced to grind npcs?

dassneakereb17_ESO

I completed everything (quests, dungeons, dolmens etc.) in every location except craglorn and i am only vr11, is my exp bugged or what? Even if its not bugged, i cant level up further without nobrain npc grind since nobody doing quests in craglorn and it is not possible to solo crag pve content

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

Nope, not bugged, welcome to ESO past VR10 .. a 1990s group-or-die game where you have to endure forced-group content in order simply to level-up to cap.

Cue posts pointing out this is an MMORPG and Skyrim is a great solo game .. it's all so predictable.

NovaShadow

Nope, you're not bugged. I myself finished all content save Crag and was 30% shy of VR11. It's how it is, you have to do Crag to finish off your exp if you don't want to grind, otherwise there's dailies/pvp/etc or grinding. No other options.

LameoveR

Too much time you was solo player. It's time to group up and kick some monster's...head. Craglorn needs heroes!!

rager82b14_ESO

Or they might release content for the crown store that is for that levels. Genius plan!

LameoveR

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

Or they might release content for the crown store that is for that levels. Genius plan!

Soon.

dassneakereb17_ESO

LameoveR wrote: »

Too much time you was solo player. It's time to group up and kick some monster's...head. Craglorn needs heroes!!

If only there were more people that want to do anything but pledges/trials/grind

rager82b14_ESO

I am not a group person, I enjoy MMOS for social talking, profits like a merchant, and playing with set friends. However, grouping with others will never be my thing, and the group or die, raid or die mindset has changed from the old days.

I feel like when mmos try to force group content, and "hardcore" elements, they always seem to fall flat if history shows us any thing.

This game has some amazing stuff with it. It just lacks common sense.

wolonggong_ESO

One of the many reasons why people quit playing. Grind is rarely liked unless its wrapped in fun. Forcing group grinding in a single zone for as long as this game does it is just plain bad.

drogon1

LOL "endure" group content in an MMO. Jeez.

Nestor

I was fortunate that I was able to get my first character to finish Caldwells Gold to do so just about the time he became VR12. That was 3 months ago, and he is now VR12.2

ElliottXO

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Nope, not bugged, welcome to ESO past VR10 .. a 1990s group-or-die game where you have to endure forced-group content in order simply to level-up to cap.

Cue posts pointing out this is an MMORPG and Skyrim is a great solo game .. it's all so predictable.

Ummm what? Grinding alone or duo mobs is still the way to go for XP.

Group activities don't reward that much XP after the rollback in patch 202.

Nadijeh

That sounds really boring. I hate grinding mobs...I just came back from doing that in ArcheAge with it's Library update.

thelordoffelines

No the v10 zone brings you to a little above v10. And btw I hear the exp in the craglorn quests isnt that great I would recommend doing all of the cyrodiil dailies in the quest hubs to get the extra three levels.

rager82b14_ESO

drogon1 wrote: »

LOL "endure" group content in an MMO. Jeez.

You know MMOS is not about grouping right? That idea has been dead for a long time now.

UPrime

There are quest hubs inside cyrodiil with repeatable quests that you can do. It's a bit risky of course, but if you get killed by a player you don't have a repair bill. Just a longer ride back since you can't just res where you died.

ElSlayer

Try Cyrodiil daily quests in major cities (Bruma, Chorrol etc.)

vovus69

This guy is lucky. I am VR8 and just finished VR3 zone where I got like ~120 exp per mob. Now I am in zone 4 where I still getting reduced ~350 exp which is much better But full exp should be 450 exp and I doubt I'll see the day I'll get this. VR leveling is too fast for me. And I am not doing craglorn/cyrodiil at all. Otherwise I would jump too much...

Cthalion

ElSlayer wrote: »

Try Cyrodiil daily quests in major cities (Bruma, Chorrol etc.)

This.

Once you get used to these quests, you can complete them very quickly. Not exactly riveting, but you'll often encounter other players to keep things interesting.

LordSkyKnight

Don't like grouping or group content? That's a shame I guess. I guess the leveling ends for you at your VR 11 rank. I suggest making a new character or maybe try something outside your comfort zone like making friends to group with.

spryler

Basically you should do anything you want, just don't "worry" about xp. What do I mean?

Do daily Undaunted pledges for Skill progression, silver/gold keys, and gear drops.
Farm Upper Craglorn mats, bonus is possible Ninhorned. Kill mobs to get to nodes that people skip.
PVP - just join a group and try it out for awhile.
PVE in Cyrodiil - do the delves, kill all the bosses for the achieve, do the dolmens - be a completionist like you did for every other zone.
Open all chests - xp, gold, and soon to be nerfed Soul Gems (since you can buy them in the Crown Store)
Farm Group Dungeons - I like Razzak's Wheel - Dwemer scraps, V10 Soulshine jewelry (I'm AD), lots of urns for mats/recipes/motifs.

Basically your primary goal of playing should be something besides XP. The XP and CPs you get along the way will be a bonus and you will level up faster than you think. That's how I try to approach it, it's all in your head after all.

linoge63

drogon1 wrote: »

LOL "endure" group content in an MMO. Jeez.

I wonder how much moola MMOs would make if they took the very same game and sold it as a solo instanceable game...

Answer? Lots...

...or you could buy a key to open a portal from the groupie game to a purely soloable area..

dassneakereb17_ESO

LordSkyKnight wrote: »

Don't like grouping or group content? That's a shame I guess. I guess the leveling ends for you at your VR 11 rank. I suggest making a new character or maybe try something outside your comfort zone like making friends to group with.

spent 2 hours trying to find a group for quest yes i dont like grouping or group content like this

dassneakereb17_ESO wrote: »

LameoveR wrote: »

Too much time you was solo player. It's time to group up and kick some monster's...head. Craglorn needs heroes!!

If only there were more people that want to do anything but pledges/trials/grind

McDoogs

They just buffed trial boss xp. Who's going to queue up immediately to farm the first AA boss for a few hours? lol

Dragondc3

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

drogon1 wrote: »

LOL "endure" group content in an MMO. Jeez.

You know MMOS is not about grouping right? That idea has been dead for a long time now.

No, no it has not been dead for a long time now. It has only been dead on the pansy immediate gratification games that spawned since the release of WoW. As good as that game is/was it has done serious disservice to the MMO community as a whole. The youth of today are so used to getting a stupid trophy for not doing anything that they forgot what it is like to actually work for something. If you do not enjoy a game where you must work with others in a team like environment than you should reconsider they type of games you want to invest your money and time in.

The mmo community now considers any game that has a megaserver or massive multiplayer under the same genre as an mmorpg. An mmorpg originally was designed to bring such paper or txt based games in which a player immersed him/herself into a 3d fantasy game world and lived a virtual life through the eyes of their character. Games back then took years to reach any sort of end game content and definitely years to acquire the majority of any end game type content that was in place for said games. If you could solo which I personally enjoy and always try to give myself the option to do, I always did so with full knowledge that my solo experience would only be viable to a certain extent and that grouping up and meeting other players would be absolutely required if I wanted to experience high level content.

Your an individual and by no means am I telling you to conform or die, however I am telling you that it annoys me beyond belief when players from other games come over to the game I enjoy and start barking and crying about how they cant stand the way this games content is being run or delivered. Its quite simple, if you like the game than sweet, stay; help it grow. If not, go try another game that offers the type of content your looking for.

dassneakereb17_ESO

spryler wrote: »

Basically you should do anything you want, just don't "worry" about xp. What do I mean?

I know how to get exp in this game, tnx. The problem is you can get max level only through grinding/dailies, ZOS should do something about this.

rager82b14_ESO

Dragondc3 wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

drogon1 wrote: »

LOL "endure" group content in an MMO. Jeez.

You know MMOS is not about grouping right? That idea has been dead for a long time now.

No, no it has not been dead for a long time now. It has only been dead on the pansy immediate gratification games that spawned since the release of WoW. As good as that game is/was it has done serious disservice to the MMO community as a whole. The youth of today are so used to getting a stupid trophy for not doing anything that they forgot what it is like to actually work for something. If you do not enjoy a game where you must work with others in a team like environment than you should reconsider they type of games you want to invest your money and time in.

The mmo community now considers any game that has a megaserver or massive multiplayer under the same genre as an mmorpg. An mmorpg originally was designed to bring such paper or txt based games in which a player immersed him/herself into a 3d fantasy game world and lived a virtual life through the eyes of their character. Games back then took years to reach any sort of end game content and definitely years to acquire the majority of any end game type content that was in place for said games. If you could solo which I personally enjoy and always try to give myself the option to do, I always did so with full knowledge that my solo experience would only be viable to a certain extent and that grouping up and meeting other players would be absolutely required if I wanted to experience high level content.

Your an individual and by no means am I telling you to conform or die, however I am telling you that it annoys me beyond belief when players from other games come over to the game I enjoy and start barking and crying about how they cant stand the way this games content is being run or delivered. Its quite simple, if you like the game than sweet, stay; help it grow. If not, go try another game that offers the type of content your looking for.

It also annoys me that people think that grouping and raiding should be what a MMO is. A mmo comes from muds, and the core of a MMO is the RPG element. It is a virtual world, that has its own sets of rules and lore.

You got that part, but your knowledge of soloing is wrong. Groups are stronger, and could get beat rare things. GROUP content, raids is just things to do in a mmo. Not what a mmo is about.

So I will say it again. The days of badly design group focus raid or die mmos are done. Going back to the mud roots of rpg and worlds.

Wildstar alone is proof of that of the hardcore elements. See you call people pansy and say that people want instant gratification, yet I don't think you understand the meaning of that. People who solo, who don't want to group up, want tough content also. They just like doing it at their own pace.

It has nothing to do with casual, in fact..in some mmos, raiders and soloers can get the same type of gear. However, it is much harder for the soloer to get it and time consuming compare to the raider.

options and more play styles= Good, and what mmos need.

Natjur

Levelling from V1 to V10 doing the cadwell Silver and Gold quests and all other quests in those zones was good exp. (20 min quest giving 60k exp and soloable)

But the quests chains in Craglorn are broken (1.5 hr quest that need more then 1 person, 4k exp!!!!!)

So once you have done cadwell Silver and Gold quests which will get you to around V10...... the game breaks!
They nerfed exp in Craglorn so bad, there is no reason to go to that zone and your forced to grind instead of doing quests.

What the point of the daily quests (or even the normal quests) in Craglorn if they are a punishment for finding a group and doing them. The loot and exp is the worst in the game per hour. You would think the dev's could review how many people are doing the quests and clearly see, its badly broken.

badmojo

Running in a group of two gives you more xp from killing enemies. If you play the whole game solo, I can imagine you would be lacking a bit in XP.

But, what exactly do you want to do that requires you to be v14? You don't seem interested in grouping, and all the things that require v14 are group based, except going solo in cyrodiil, but that doesn't' require v14, it just requires a high tolerance for dying lots.

Group up, it's an mmo ffs.

rager82b14_ESO

badmojo wrote: »

Running in a group of two gives you more xp from killing enemies. If you play the whole game solo, I can imagine you would be lacking a bit in XP.

But, what exactly do you want to do that requires you to be v14? You don't seem interested in grouping, and all the things that require v14 are group based, except going solo in cyrodiil, but that doesn't' require v14, it just requires a high tolerance for dying lots.

Group up, it's an mmo ffs.

Sounds like this game has more problems than I thought, If grouping is the center of end game. No wonder it is going on life support. *sighs* Well, they live and learn I guess. Funny how the mmos who have sub base respect end game content for soloers.

LonePirate

OP, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but your dilemma is of no consequence to ZOS because you are not a console player. They have decided that it is more important to work on a new UI for the console players instead of providing new content for PC players or fixing game breaking issues like the lag in Cyrodiil. Follow my lead by accepting the fact that we are second class customers and try to enjoy the game as much as you can. Our complaints are fruitless so keep that in mind when you post. Have a good day, though!