FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING PVE LAG OR GAME FREEZES, post your issue here, server and home location.

Robbmrp

Hello All, we've had all kinds of discussions over the past few weeks about PVE LAG. Lets help ZOS by identifying all of the Countries that are having problems with PVE LAG and see if we can get this resolved ASAP.

I am on the NA Server, located in Utah(USA). I also know of people playing in Michigan, Minnesota and Oklahoma who are having PVE LAG issues.

Beesting

I am on the EU server and ran 15 vet dungeons last night, we had three massive lag spikes (10 secs freeze etc) in one Darkshade run wich was a bit annoying on the run we decided to make a speed run, because i guess the timer just keeps ticking. So we did another one after and without the lag we nailed it.

Other than that we are allready used to it tbh, it is just the way it is and we deal with it and smash the content anyway

Beesting

We were playing from Norway, Germany and Holland and we were on ts and had the exact same spikes, so location did not make a difference..

Robbmrp

Beesting wrote: »

We were playing from Norway, Germany and Holland and we were on ts and had the exact same spikes, so location did not make a difference..

That's why I created this post and what I hope to accomplish from it. To show @ZOS that it's not our individual ISP's causing the problem with PVE Lag. The issue lies with either their servers or game code.

Keep the posts coming people!

Thank you all for your time!

TomasZee

Finland - laaaaag spikes. And it all depends on the time of day. In the morning none. In the evening when more people play - huuuuuge spikes.

o_0

Robbmrp wrote: »

Hello All, we've had all kinds of discussions over the past few weeks about PVE LAG. Lets help ZOS by identifying all of the Countries that are having problems with PVE LAG and see if we can get this resolved ASAP.

I am on the NA Server, located in Utah(USA). I also know of people playing in Michigan, Minnesota and Oklahoma who are having PVE LAG issues.

I am in Utah as well (SLC) and rarely see any lag in PVE. When i do, its just a minor jump in ping that rarely affects my gameplay, never do i see the long term freezes and sync issues that i do in PVP, but thats PVP.

Robbmrp

o_0 wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

Hello All, we've had all kinds of discussions over the past few weeks about PVE LAG. Lets help ZOS by identifying all of the Countries that are having problems with PVE LAG and see if we can get this resolved ASAP.

I am on the NA Server, located in Utah(USA). I also know of people playing in Michigan, Minnesota and Oklahoma who are having PVE LAG issues.

I am in Utah as well (SLC) and rarely see any lag in PVE. When i do, its just a minor jump in ping that rarely affects my gameplay, never do i see the long term freezes and sync issues that i do in PVP, but thats PVP.

Heh, SLC here too. Sugarhouse area. The things I am seeing are spell cast delays. Every once in a while my wifes game will freeze up when she's in a really populated area like Rawl. We are running identical systems so it's not our hardware or ISP as we usually have the same lag spike times as those we game with in Michigan, Minnesota and Oklahoma.

Goresnort

27 march - EU Server.

Veteran Darkshade Caverns.

Total slideshow for all group members.

Player 1 - Norway
Player 2 - Norway
Player 3 - Finland
Player 4 - UK

We all had the same issues.

Mobs lagging.
Players lagging.
Animations lagging.
Skill execution lagging. (up to 5 second delays)
Animations disappearing.
Animations freezing.

In game latency indicator not functioning properly. Was showing white values and all bars full, but actual latency felt to be deep in the red.

Seen a few rare latency spikes in PvE dungeons before (past 9 months), but nothing as severe as this.
At least our group got a good laugh, but this wont be that entertaining long term : P

Anyone else seeing the same thing recently? (post update 6 / tamriel unlimited)

o_0

Robbmrp wrote: »

o_0 wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

Hello All, we've had all kinds of discussions over the past few weeks about PVE LAG. Lets help ZOS by identifying all of the Countries that are having problems with PVE LAG and see if we can get this resolved ASAP.

I am on the NA Server, located in Utah(USA). I also know of people playing in Michigan, Minnesota and Oklahoma who are having PVE LAG issues.

I am in Utah as well (SLC) and rarely see any lag in PVE. When i do, its just a minor jump in ping that rarely affects my gameplay, never do i see the long term freezes and sync issues that i do in PVP, but thats PVP.

Heh, SLC here too. Sugarhouse area. The things I am seeing are spell cast delays. Every once in a while my wifes game will freeze up when she's in a really populated area like Rawl. We are running identical systems so it's not our hardware or ISP as we usually have the same lag spike times as those we game with in Michigan, Minnesota and Oklahoma.

Maybe not ISP specifically. But what company does the ISP route through. Most major ISP's use the same companies to route their data. For example, my place uses a small little known provider on a slower internet connection and i get no PVE lag. When at different friends houses using Century link or Comcast with a much much much faster connection i will see syncing issues, rubberbanding, etc....

I think ping has very little to do with the issue, sure you will see ping spike to 999+ but that's what it does whenever there is packet, syncing, connection issues.

If it is a routing issue, good luck getting companies such as L3 communications to do anything about it, even if ISP's, game companies, data centers, the ALMIGHTY HIMSELF complains. The routing companies have nothing to lose as there isn't much of an alternative for companies to switch to.

Robbmrp

o_0 wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

o_0 wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

Hello All, we've had all kinds of discussions over the past few weeks about PVE LAG. Lets help ZOS by identifying all of the Countries that are having problems with PVE LAG and see if we can get this resolved ASAP.

I am on the NA Server, located in Utah(USA). I also know of people playing in Michigan, Minnesota and Oklahoma who are having PVE LAG issues.

I am in Utah as well (SLC) and rarely see any lag in PVE. When i do, its just a minor jump in ping that rarely affects my gameplay, never do i see the long term freezes and sync issues that i do in PVP, but thats PVP.

Heh, SLC here too. Sugarhouse area. The things I am seeing are spell cast delays. Every once in a while my wifes game will freeze up when she's in a really populated area like Rawl. We are running identical systems so it's not our hardware or ISP as we usually have the same lag spike times as those we game with in Michigan, Minnesota and Oklahoma.

Maybe not ISP specifically. But what company does the ISP route through. Most major ISP's use the same companies to route their data. For example, my place uses a small little known provider on a slower internet connection and i get no PVE lag. When at different friends houses using Century link or Comcast with a much much much faster connection i will see syncing issues, rubberbanding, etc....

I think ping has very little to do with the issue, sure you will see ping spike to 999+ but that's what it does whenever there is packet, syncing, connection issues.

If it is a routing issue, good luck getting companies such as L3 communications to do anything about it, even if ISP's, game companies, data centers, the ALMIGHTY HIMSELF complains. The routing companies have nothing to lose as there isn't much of an alternative for companies to switch to.

I hear you. There could be a bottleneck at ZOS or the data routing company it uses though which is what I am hoping to find. This way if we can show them that people all over the world are having the same issues that mainly it's not an individual ISP issue. ZOS customer service is so quick to just tell people that it's their ISP that's the problem. We'll have to wait and see what turns up.

The main reason I don't think it's my(or anyone elses) ISP is, I haven't changed anything on them and for it all of a sudden to show up the exact same time as 1.6 and increase with each update implemented is too coincidental IMO.

o_0

How many experience the majority of PVE lag in instanced dungeons compared to open world PVE? The dungeons run on different servers/hardware as far as i know. I admit i do more open world then instanced, which could also be why i dont see it nearly as often.

Sylvyr

Is this helpful to ZoS? Will they even look at this? OP doesn't work for ZoS so... waste of time?

istateres

NA server, Indiana, lag spikes in PVE at random (+999), ZOS blames my pathping path, My ISP blames ZOS

Will Battleping help??

Robbmrp

Sylvyr wrote: »

Is this helpful to ZoS? Will they even look at this? OP doesn't work for ZoS so... waste of time?

No one's forcing you to help. If you don't have issues that's great for you. Anything we can provide data on can help ZOS try and resolve the issue.

asteldian

EU server, tends to happen in instance zones. Entire party has suffered in DSA, lasted about 60s, also in vet wayrest sewers, vet elden hollow, vet crypt of hearts.
Also 9.30pm UK time seems to have become lag tradition when in an instance at this time.

Moonscythe

I am on the NA server in Louisiana. I play mid-day during the week so I'm not at all in peak hours. I have been experiencing unacceptable lag in Vulkhel Guard and Khenarthi's Roost. Loading is slow, my weapons don't work, and sometimes everything just freezes and I return to the log in screen. I am not even attempting to do anything exciting like going into dungeons since this all happens in the open just wandering around taking pot shots at skeevers. Do you know how embarrassing it is to be killed by a skeever?

Sylvyr

Robbmrp wrote: »

Sylvyr wrote: »

Is this helpful to ZoS? Will they even look at this? OP doesn't work for ZoS so... waste of time?

No one's forcing you to help. If you don't have issues that's great for you. Anything we can provide data on can help ZOS try and resolve the issue.

I am having issues with lag. That's not the issue I'm pointing out. You are assuming 1) that ZoS will look at this thread as a source 2) That the information of where we are located is helpful. 3) That no other data in addition to issue and our location is needed by ZoS to make good assessments.

Where is their support staff? Why aren't they asking people for data that would help them?

But if the goal is to start yet another mega thread and everyone falls for it... sure why not. Might make people feel better.

ArconSeptim

Happened to my group and me today in Darkshade! Whole run was lagging we were inside like 1 hour spamming spells...

renton1x1x1

Goresnort wrote: »

27 march - EU Server.

Veteran Darkshade Caverns.

Total slideshow for all group members.

Player 1 - Norway
Player 2 - Norway
Player 3 - Finland
Player 4 - UK

We all had the same issues.

Mobs lagging.
Players lagging.
Animations lagging.
Skill execution lagging. (up to 5 second delays)
Animations disappearing.
Animations freezing.

In game latency indicator not functioning properly. Was showing white values and all bars full, but actual latency felt to be deep in the red.

Seen a few rare latency spikes in PvE dungeons before (past 9 months), but nothing as severe as this.
At least our group got a good laugh, but this wont be that entertaining long term : P

Anyone else seeing the same thing recently? (post update 6 / tamriel unlimited)

this pretty much also EU server tried doiing grublog - the netch boss he just wasn't going down enough for us to damage him. Felt like doing simmur without the shards. I did it with same group last week did it no problem.

Had the same 4-5 second freezes in fungal grotto on wednesday but that was manageable - sort of.

MY fps and ping rate isnt that bad i don't have the best pc so put everything on low for dungeons

Occasional lag spikes during normal play.

Also Ferocious leap either wont activate or gets stuck in the animation for a good 3-4 seconds.

Submitted a ticket with:

Usersetting.txt- current

Game consultant file

Dxdiag

Done all the usual recommended maintenance-

Virus Checks

Registry Clean

Ipconfig .flushdns

Updated nvidia and Windows Drivers

Tried with and without add-ons

Updated Add-ons

Removed old add-on .lua files from the saved varible file.

Moonshadow66

NA server, and I'm in Germany.
Same thing along with other bugs and issues.
But nothing surprises me here anymore considering that the devs don't even see the obvious.

Naor_Sarethi

Germany, EU Megaserver. 4pm-2am every once an hour a massive lagspike, in between windows of 2 second delays.
PvE more than on PvP, however it's happening on both.

Kreetar

North American - NJ
I've about had it with this.

edit: I only play PvE, if that's somehow helpful. never have I experienced such severe issues.

BigM

NA Michigan, thanks for making this post. Maybe we should also put addons we use?

ihartsnape

North America - FL
I've been experiencing game freezes primarily in or around the bank in Davon's Watch.
I've also been experiencing game lag in the form of skill delays, inability to mount/dismount, inability to talk NPC's or choose conversation options, inability to enter doors, and stamina getting stuck going down as if I'm still sprinting when I'm not. The majority of my lag is experienced in the open world, not in dungeons or instanced areas.

Anath_Q

NA server, playing in Arizona. Since 1.6 went live, I've had random PVE lag in open world and cities, whether there are lots of players around or not. Game now completely freezes and must be shut from task manager 1-3 times per game session. Kicked to log in screen with <<1>> error if I make the mistake of leaving a character parked in Rawl, or try to directly travel there. Repaired, reinstalled, turned add-ons off, drivers checked, etc...makes no difference.

Maotti

We were a group now trying to do the Darkshade gold pledge, two from Norway, one from Slovenia and one from South Africa.

We got lag at the same time, and it was lasting for a long time each time.

Same group did Banished Cells and had no issues whatsoever.

EU server btw.

gard

Robbmrp wrote: »

Hello All, we've had all kinds of discussions over the past few weeks about PVE LAG. Lets help ZOS by identifying all of the Countries that are having problems with PVE LAG and see if we can get this resolved ASAP.

I am on the NA Server, located in Utah(USA). I also know of people playing in Michigan, Minnesota and Oklahoma who are having PVE LAG issues.

It might be helpful for ZOS to tell us how we can best help them to troubleshoot this.
I run a toolbar that shows the latency and the zone I'm in at the top of my screen, so for me a ticket with a screenshot would probably help.

But what about people not running that addon? Also, surely there is more information that we could provide, like traceroute to the server's we're connected to?

Nysticc

I have huge lag spikes in Grathwood and malabal tor when i'm doing quests in those zones.

daemonios

Tried to do vet Darkshade just now. The result would have been hilarious, if it hadn't been game-breaking.

Mobs froze, skills froze, died while having full damage shield, mobs kept getting aoe cones after dead, skill animations kept being spammed after I'd stopped casting and all enemies were dead, team member health bars bugged out and wouldn't go above ~50% even out of combat...

This was on EU server, with 30+ fps and ~200 ms ping.

Soriana

Pre 1.6 I used to look forward to dungeons as I would never, and I mean never get lag spikes at all. Now I cringe every time I get invited into a dungeon because I know it will be a lagfest from the time I zone in until I leave.

NA server, Arizona, 40+FPS inside dungeons, 50+ FPS outside, except in town. In town FPS drops to 30 or below.

Streega

I'm from Poland, rolling on EU Server - huge lags in all major cities (in every alliance). Between 18:00-22:00 GMT totally unplayable, you can enjoy the slideshow. Best time to play? Between 4:00-6:00 GMT
My suggestion: turn off the stupid pets and familliars in towns, and use of magic outside the MG or enchanting station should be considered as a crime. I don't know if it would help much, but at least no more fireworks, flapping, growling, rattling and uuking.

EDIT: Adding a screenshot from Bank in Davon's Watch: