How to get proper anti-aliasing in ESO with nvidia card

Arki

I think ESO is a good looking game, especially for an MMO, but I allways found the anti-aliasing to be lacking.

Tried ESO Launcher, Sweet FX and stuff but didnt find anything i liked - i just wanted proper AA. Then I found a web page where someone told this simple thing: To get proper AA on an Nvidia card, go to Nvidia control panel, and check that:

1. You have normal AA set to 2x, 4x or 8x (important, dont use any kind of CDAA or whatever, just regular multisampling)
2. You have enabled transparency AA 2x, 4x or 8x supersampling
3. You have THE SAME VALUE for normal AA and transparency AA (e.g. 4x on both, 8x on both etc)

I set mine to 8x for both and it looks just right!

Hopefully this is useful for anyone, it sure was for me

Kalfis

Great advice, will check this out.



Also, has anyone but me noticed that there's no anisotropic filtering?

Paths /roads in ESO without it look DREADFUL.

I forced 16x anisotropic filtering via Nvidia control panel, it works.

Endurance

you will have to disable FXAA in the NVIDIA control panel or in game

Grymdael

Always looking for handy tips to improve the game experience / appearance.

I'll give it a try and let you know how things turn out for me.

Cheers.

Update: Worked well for me thank you.

I also included the Anisotropic filtering feature mentioned by Kalfis as well.

Not only does the game look much better on my system, it also runs a little smoother as well.

It's well worth a try folks.

danno8

I don't know if it's a Win 8.1 thing but you simply can not force any AA mode from the Nvidia CP to work in the game. I tried your advice and got nothing but jaggies...as usual.

Holycannoli

I have to try this. The control panel is how I used to enable ambient occlusion in Skyrim (until it no longer worked for some reason).

Arki

danno816_ESO wrote: »

I don't know if it's a Win 8.1 thing but you simply can not force any AA mode from the Nvidia CP to work in the game. I tried your advice and got nothing but jaggies...as usual.

I have Win8.1 as well, worked fine for me. Did you use the exact settings that i described? I fiddled alot with 32x CDAA and lots of other settings to no avail until i tried the beforementioned setup - which finally clicked for me.

danno8

Arki wrote: »

danno816_ESO wrote: »

I don't know if it's a Win 8.1 thing but you simply can not force any AA mode from the Nvidia CP to work in the game. I tried your advice and got nothing but jaggies...as usual.

I have Win8.1 as well, worked fine for me. Did you use the exact settings that i described? I fiddled alot with 32x CDAA and lots of other settings to no avail until i tried the beforementioned setup - which finally clicked for me.

I set Anti-aliasing-setting to 4X, and Antialiasing-Transparancy to 4X(supersampling), and get no ingame result.

Questions:

1. Are you using the Global Tab or the Program specific tab
2. What is your setting for Antialiasing- mode

SweetRoll

I don't understand why this is necessary...shouldn't the settings from within the video settings in-game work? If not, why not? Seems to me this should be a relatively important part of a "cutting edge" MMO...

Kragorn

SweetRoll wrote: »

I don't understand why this is necessary...shouldn't the settings from within the video settings in-game work? If not, why not? Seems to me this should be a relatively important part of a "cutting edge" MMO...

What's 'cutting edge' about ESO?

It's a fine game, yes, but 'cutting edge' it certainly isn't technologically, in fact I can't think any MMO has ever been able to be called that.

FishBreath

With Nvidia DSR you can get better anti-aliasing: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology
Also setting 16x Anisotrophic Filtering improves textures.

I have 1080p screen and I run the game with 2880x1620 (1.5x) DSR resolution.

Sacadon

@Arki, same as @danno816_ESO are you setting via global tab (currently I'm setting mine for eso.exe specifically,)?

And please state what you have for each of these:

Antialiasing - Gamma Correction
Antialiasing - Mode
Antialiasing - Setting (assuming 8x)
Antialiasing - Transparency

Sacadon

SweetRoll wrote: »

I don't understand why this is necessary...shouldn't the settings from within the video settings in-game work? If not, why not? Seems to me this should be a relatively important part of a "cutting edge" MMO...

If we get the game looking better why wait on ZOS? And while not necessary your point was still taken.

Sacadon

FishBreath wrote: »

With Nvidia DSR you can get better anti-aliasing: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology
Also setting 16x Anisotrophic Filtering improves textures.

I have 1080p screen and I run the game with 2880x1620 (1.5x) DSR resolution.

thanks, did you see a perf change with this?

danno8

SweetRoll wrote: »

I don't understand why this is necessary...shouldn't the settings from within the video settings in-game work? If not, why not? Seems to me this should be a relatively important part of a "cutting edge" MMO...

The in-game AA settings is an FXAA mode that just blurs the whole scene. Like spreading Vaseline over the lens of a camera. I have never been able to force a decent AA mode through NVIDIA CP and like many other have assumed it was simply unenforceable due to the engine ESO uses.

The op has stated he was able to force it so others (like me) are trying to figure out how he has had any success.

And no, it shouldn't be necessary. It's 2015 for crying out loud, and there are like a dozen different AA modes out there and ESO uses none of them except for the FXAA mode mentioned earlier.

Arki

Sacadon wrote: »

FishBreath wrote: »

With Nvidia DSR you can get better anti-aliasing: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology
Also setting 16x Anisotrophic Filtering improves textures.

I have 1080p screen and I run the game with 2880x1620 (1.5x) DSR resolution.

thanks, did you see a perf change with this?

DSR is ofc a way to do it, but it will most likely come with a noticable perf drop - since you actually have to render lots more pixels for the same screen resolution. For me that was not an option, dont have enough horsepower.

Arki

Sacadon wrote: »

@Arki, same as @danno816_ESO are you setting via global tab (currently I'm setting mine for eso.exe specifically,)?

And please state what you have for each of these:

Antialiasing - Gamma Correction
Antialiasing - Mode
Antialiasing - Setting (assuming 8x)
Antialiasing - Transparency

I'll dig up my settings and post them for you later today. Using per aplication setting, not global btw. From memory though:
Antialiasing - Gamma Correction => no change
Antialiasing - Mode => "improved" or whatever it says in english (mine is in norwegian
Antialiasing - Setting (assuming 8x) => 8x
Antialiasing - Transparency => 8x supersampling

Note: FXAA is disabled (as in not available and greyed out) in nvidia control panel for eso.exe. Maybe you need to actively diable it like Endurance posted if you have a diffirent card then me. Dunno.

If it works you should not be in doubt, I saw the difference immediately.

Sacadon

Arki wrote: »

Sacadon wrote: »

@Arki, same as @danno816_ESO are you setting via global tab (currently I'm setting mine for eso.exe specifically,)?

And please state what you have for each of these:

Antialiasing - Gamma Correction
Antialiasing - Mode
Antialiasing - Setting (assuming 8x)
Antialiasing - Transparency

I'll dig up my settings and post them for you later today. Using per aplication setting, not global btw. From memory though:
Antialiasing - Gamma Correction => no change
Antialiasing - Mode => "improved" or whatever it says in english (mine is in norwegian
Antialiasing - Setting (assuming 8x) => 8x
Antialiasing - Transparency => 8x supersampling

Note: FXAA is disabled (as in not available and greyed out) in nvidia control panel for eso.exe. Maybe you need to actively diable it like Endurance posted if you have a diffirent card then me. Dunno.

If it works you should not be in doubt, I saw the difference immediately.

Thanks & Did you disable the in-game setting?

Arki

Sacadon wrote: »

Arki wrote: »

Sacadon wrote: »

@Arki, same as @danno816_ESO are you setting via global tab (currently I'm setting mine for eso.exe specifically,)?

And please state what you have for each of these:

Antialiasing - Gamma Correction
Antialiasing - Mode
Antialiasing - Setting (assuming 8x)
Antialiasing - Transparency

I'll dig up my settings and post them for you later today. Using per aplication setting, not global btw. From memory though:
Antialiasing - Gamma Correction => no change
Antialiasing - Mode => "improved" or whatever it says in english (mine is in norwegian
Antialiasing - Setting (assuming 8x) => 8x
Antialiasing - Transparency => 8x supersampling

Note: FXAA is disabled (as in not available and greyed out) in nvidia control panel for eso.exe. Maybe you need to actively diable it like Endurance posted if you have a diffirent card then me. Dunno.

If it works you should not be in doubt, I saw the difference immediately.

Thanks & Did you disable the in-game setting?

No, pretty sure it still says ON. Never saw any difference wether it was on or off though...

Arki

Btw not sure how good it works on the login screen, I allways logged all the way in and checked my twohanded sword when tilting camera - that looked like crap before the change, lots of jagged lines. Now its a nice clean edge catching the last rays of the setting sun!

mhmfrogub17_ESO

Windows 8 is the biggest mistake since Windows Vista.

BigM

Blah win8 is bad, win8.1 better win10 we will all love.

Arki

mhmfrogub17_ESO wrote: »

Windows 8 is the biggest mistake since Windows Vista.

Well, this worked for me on Win8.1 so it's pretty premature to assert that this is an OS problem. I'd sooner point the finger at Nvidia and ESO in this case. ESO for not using proper AA in the first place and nvidia for making it so hard to forcing stuff in a working way.

AMD/ATI has great AA, never had any issues there, while nvidia are still messing around with stuff like this:

http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/19098-Nvidia-users-Let-us-unite-to-make-Nvidia-notice-this-issue!-They-can-fix-it!

If they had fixed that issue I might not have to run with so much AA supersampling (in theory at least).

I like nvidia cards...when they work its great, but shouldn't have to require so much fiddling

Sacadon

Arki wrote: »

Sacadon wrote: »

Arki wrote: »

Sacadon wrote: »

@Arki, same as @danno816_ESO are you setting via global tab (currently I'm setting mine for eso.exe specifically,)?

And please state what you have for each of these:

Antialiasing - Gamma Correction
Antialiasing - Mode
Antialiasing - Setting (assuming 8x)
Antialiasing - Transparency

I'll dig up my settings and post them for you later today. Using per aplication setting, not global btw. From memory though:
Antialiasing - Gamma Correction => no change
Antialiasing - Mode => "improved" or whatever it says in english (mine is in norwegian
Antialiasing - Setting (assuming 8x) => 8x
Antialiasing - Transparency => 8x supersampling

Note: FXAA is disabled (as in not available and greyed out) in nvidia control panel for eso.exe. Maybe you need to actively diable it like Endurance posted if you have a diffirent card then me. Dunno.

If it works you should not be in doubt, I saw the difference immediately.

Thanks & Did you disable the in-game setting?

No, pretty sure it still says ON. Never saw any difference wether it was on or off though...

Ok, made the change... Hard to tell on EU because it always looked visually better pre-1.6 anyway. Will take a look once NA is back.

BTW, the ESOLauncher did make a noticeable difference in overall fidelity for me. However, I just didn't feel comfortable running an injection DLL when the developer chose not to share the source. Nothing against the dev and understand why he/she would do such. I just don't trust by default with such things and didn't want to take the time to do my homework on it. Also figured ESO would fight back by moving the settings that were being adjusted by it and just didn't want to get too attached to it after having done that homework only to have it broken then fixed again by the dev and so on. At this juncture, I'm inclined to run it though.

Arki

Did some more testing tonight. Interesting to note, when i choose "override" it does nothing it seems. I need to choose "improve" to get any effect. Also forcing anisotropic filtering to 16x seemed to make the AA worse for me, go figure.

It still isn't perfect though i have to admit, still some jaggies on some objects - especially far away ones. But its getting there...

Apokh

DOwnsampling is imo bringing the best results without messing around. The perf drop is not as big as one woud think, compared with forced AA. I am playing with 4k dsr resolution - in full rawl kha around 30fps, dungeons around 60 and trials around 40. thats fine for me. Of course nothimg for the ppl that say 40 fps is " stuttering noticeable" but im over 30 and do not see this stuttering ;j

Athas24

Arki wrote: »

Sacadon wrote: »

FishBreath wrote: »

With Nvidia DSR you can get better anti-aliasing: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology
Also setting 16x Anisotrophic Filtering improves textures.

I have 1080p screen and I run the game with 2880x1620 (1.5x) DSR resolution.

thanks, did you see a perf change with this?

DSR is ofc a way to do it, but it will most likely come with a noticable perf drop - since you actually have to render lots more pixels for the same screen resolution. For me that was not an option, dont have enough horsepower.

Recently rocked 4x DSR and still run 50-60 fps woo ya! Game looks sweet!

danno8

OK tried it all again. Still nothing for me. Turning on in game AA is the only way I see any difference, but I can tell it is JUST the in-game AA.

Have used 4k DSR and I go from 60FPS in most places down to 20-30 FPS. Twice the pixels half the framerate. Only good if you got SLI or crossfire imo.

Sacadon

Ok, made just those changes and leaving in-game AA on did improve it... Very nice.

Arki

Apokh wrote: »

DOwnsampling is imo bringing the best results without messing around. The perf drop is not as big as one woud think, compared with forced AA. I am playing with 4k dsr resolution - in full rawl kha around 30fps, dungeons around 60 and trials around 40. thats fine for me. Of course nothimg for the ppl that say 40 fps is " stuttering noticeable" but im over 30 and do not see this stuttering ;j

Downsampling looks amazing from what i've seen, as soon as i get a new card i'll try this out. Anyone tried downsampling from lower resolutions to 1920x1280 e.g. not full 4k but maybe around half that?

Tempted to try this guide to see what my current card can deliver:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509076

Merlin13KAGL

OP, could you post some before/after, with/without screenshots to make the differences more visible for your thread readers?

Would be much appreciated!