Whats with the PVE lag?

Robbmrp

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

Hello @ZOS_GinaBruno,

See the below poll for additional areas where lag has been persistent since patch 1.6 was implemented. All of these areas were still having lag over this last weekend.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/156153/over-the-weekend-how-many-of-you-experienced-server-lag-and-where/p1

Caroloces

Well you are one in a thousand that has posted anything like this here.

Could you help the rest of us out by stating things like...

What do you have your in-game graphics set to

My resolution is 1920x1080 (running it on my hdtv)
I do have V-synq turned off; antialiasing on.
All graphic settings are high except shadows, which is set at ultra.
Particles set at 1024; particle suppression at 50; view distance is 100.
All other graphic settings are turned on.

Your location. (you do not have to be exact, but you may be close to the servers) Na or EU?

I'm in Vermont, USA on the NA server. I thought I heard that ZOS was in Maryland? So not too far.

What level of your characters in Fungle Grotto you ran

We did FG at vet level 1.

maybe even your rig specs might help

Home built rig: cpu: core i5-3570k, 3.4 ghz; gpu: geforce gtx 670; 8gigs of ram; Win7 pro 64bit. Installed client and game files on 225 GB SSD.

One thing I did notice is that in one of your posts, you mentioned turning v-synq off and getting better performance. I use Geforce experience to optimize graphic settings, and that was turned off as a result. Perhaps players experiencing lag might want to try turning it off and see if that improves things.

Vahrokh

Today I had the bad idea finding a group for Grotto gold key.

It was super-duper-hard-mode, with our whole group abilities not working at all, healing would not heal.
NPCs would not spawn or spawn all together, or attack then go away.
The bosses very ugly, 10 seconds+ time before skills would work, expecially the one that can bind people (must kill 1 add fast... too bad "fast" for us was delayed by 10 seconds).

At spawn of Mephala I'd get teleported in the spiders run, where spiders would either attack all together or just sit there doing nothing and not reacting nor getting damaged by my spells.

A terrible experience, I only had worse once in my life, in a MMO designed exactly by the guy who designed portions of ESO.

Edit: it was 8pm CET. We actually had to wait between pulls for the few, precious seconds when the lag would subside for 10 seconds.

I have been here at closed beta then open beta then launch day. Never, a single time, the game performace was so bad, not even with bots and everybody doing Grotto the first days past release. Somebody butchered your game code.

kewl

Just wait till Justice Phase 2. PvP battles in crowded cities is going to be a laggy mess.

j3crow

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

I've experienced some on the AD side at seemingly random intervals. I didn't make a note of it, but I will now. I think it was the second or third zone in. Various skill lags as well as occasionally odd lags in the voice-overs and cinematics. I thought maybe it was on my end, but it was episodic and I could never find anything wrong on the client side

Blockz888

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

This what I mentioned in a post I created, people don't submit problems if they don't get rewarded.

You guys are asking these questions because players are not telling you guys.

Man you guys should just make a "Bug" skill line and in order to level it requires submitting bugs and you only get rewarded xp if the bug legit. Once u hit a certain level like every other skill line u can choose skills that give you bonus's to whos knows what.

Think of the behaviour mechanics behind bug submitting, people generally ignore the bugs that are important to everyone not because they hate ZOS but just there is no need to pay attention.

felinith66

I was wondering why, players who were in full health ,would suddenly drop dead in a blink of an eye when we were doing vet dungeons the other day. As healer, it was horrifying.

I think it's all these PVP players coming to PVE to get their CPs. They have Lag Sickness from playing too long in a laggy environment, and now they have infected the PVE areas. We need to get these players back to Cyrodiil and then quarantine that area.

Merlin13KAGL

@ZOS_GinaBruno ,

• Vet Darkshade, Grobull about 3 different times.
• Engine Guardian about twice. (Actually died while standing in a super-heal, 2 ft from the templar healer on two different occasions, so healing ticks definitily not registering)
• Vet EH, lurcher boss (can't recall the name offhand)
• Loth'na Caverns in Crag, also.
• First mob in SO, as well, but not as bad as the other places.

Frustrating when the response is not their for the PC's, but the NPC skills seem to remain unaffected (being server side makes sense.)

daemonios

@ZOS_GinaBruno:

Problems today again. 17:45 GMT, EU server, Craglorn. First I was on horse and couldn't dismount or hand in my crafting writs. /reloadui didn't help, had to relog. A few minutes later I was kicked to the login screen with no message after a brief freeze.

onlinegamer1

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

Please log into a DC VR1+ character and go to Elden Root (city in DC's 2nd Silver zone, Grahtwood).

If you can't reproduce this bug, I seriously don't know what to tell you.....

Menelaos

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

I have seen it in

• Veteran Spindleclutch
• Veteran Darkshade Caverns
• Veteran Crypt of Hearts
• Veteran Elden Hollow
• Elden Hollow regular dungeon
• Volenfell regular dungeon
• Aetherian Archive normale mode
• Hel Ra Citadel normal mode
• Sanctum Ophidia normal mode

Generally, lag in these instances seems to build up, until it reaches a certain threshold where people get thrown to their login screen, game freezes for x seconds, red telegraphs are desynced (ppl dying/taking dmg well outside of them) or skill/potion activation becomes unresponsive. Sometimes, it's even all of these :-)

Hope you guys can fix this! :-)

MrStealth

Menelaos wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

Darkshade cavern normal mode was unplayable lagg started with every mass fight and finish after killing the last mob

Valnas

i just seem to get it during primetime (when there is lag in Cyrodiil).

It doesn't matter if i'm in a dungeon, or thornblade, or chillrend, or craglorn. Ping rate 999+ no skill reply.

G0ku

Just logged out in Rawl Kha after aborting darkshade caverns due to lag. Cant connect to server anymore, always Error <<1>>. I blame myself to logout in RawhlKha on a friday evening, stupid me.

daemonios

@ZOS_GinaBruno we need an update on this! I just dropped out of (another) vet pledge because Darkshade Caverns was unplayable. THIS IS GAME BREAKING. Please let us know what you're doing to address the issue.

herrunterberg

This is unbearable and after a week it should be clear that it is no small problem! People are getting angry with each other, leaving pledge groups etc. not because the players are too stupid - they have done the bosses before! - it is just unplayable: barely chances to evade in time, massive damage spikes, each weapon swap practically a risk of dying.

Atrocious lags in VetDungeons was one of the main reasons I quit this game two or three months after launch. I got back on board in November and had some fun with PvE since then, even told friends to come back, but this will drive people away AGAIN.

Since this problem arrived with B2P this is especially annoying for erverybody who payed up till now or still does, because the Daily Dungeon thing actually worked before. Maybe this happens solely due to server overload at primetime and you might think it will go away, but that is not enough. People want to be able to play at primetime and it needs to get adressed!

We need to know what you are doing about this.

ArvenAldmeri

Today we were trying to do the Darkshade caverns also in the evening - UNPLAYABLE. We had to leave because it was not possible to finish. Then we tried once more after midnight. Everything was fine, probably because most of the people are sleeping already. This is getting more than annoying though and it is very game breaking.
Information about that someone is trying to solve this problem would be really appreciated.

seanvwolf

Lady_Guinevere wrote: »

And as @Moonscythe and others have commented we were not having these problems until the 17th, so NO I don't think it is on the client side and I'm sure others will agree with me on this.

I don't disagree with you. What I am saying is I think it has something to do with the clients (aka the ESO applications) themselves. Not the client side machine's capabilities or connection.

Zershar_Vemod

ANY update at all on this?

Lady_Rosabella

Not seeing anything!

Zathras

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

All of that should be detailed in the daily crash report that I send since Tamriel Unlimited went Live.

Heishi

Zathras wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

All of that should be detailed in the daily crash report that I send since Tamriel Unlimited went Live.

That's not a bad idea. Just keep track of the crashes and send one long report daily. Definately easier than sending one every hour or so.

LameoveR

So, how is lag in capital cities?

dietlime

Caroloces wrote: »

Well you are one in a thousand that has posted anything like this here.

Could you help the rest of us out by stating things like...

What do you have your in-game graphics set to

My resolution is 1920x1080 (running it on my hdtv)
I do have V-synq turned off; antialiasing on.
All graphic settings are high except shadows, which is set at ultra.
Particles set at 1024; particle suppression at 50; view distance is 100.
All other graphic settings are turned on.

Your location. (you do not have to be exact, but you may be close to the servers) Na or EU?

I'm in Vermont, USA on the NA server. I thought I heard that ZOS was in Maryland? So not too far.

What level of your characters in Fungle Grotto you ran

We did FG at vet level 1.

maybe even your rig specs might help

Home built rig: cpu: core i5-3570k, 3.4 ghz; gpu: geforce gtx 670; 8gigs of ram; Win7 pro 64bit. Installed client and game files on 225 GB SSD.

One thing I did notice is that in one of your posts, you mentioned turning v-synq off and getting better performance. I use Geforce experience to optimize graphic settings, and that was turned off as a result. Perhaps players experiencing lag might want to try turning it off and see if that improves things.

Your computer is not adequate for those settings.

Specifically, lose depth of field, distortions, a percentage of your particle count, or your anti-aliasing. I would lower shadows to high, the difference is intangible. Many people prefer the style of no AA at 1080p on a high-density (21"-24") monitor.

Your computer is in the range where you have choices, not the range where you get to choose everything.

NeoXanthus

I read through this post because it caught my eye, because it seemed strange. I am not having any lag issues whatsoever in PvE. I run res 5760x1080 dx11 with g-sync at 60fps. If anything I think the game has gotten more responsive after recent patches. I play every day manly after work and on the weekend at anytime of the day.

LameoveR

How is rig relates to server lag?

Athas24

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

For those of you running into lag outside of Cyrodiil, can you let us know exactly where you're seeing it? Is it a specific town, dungeon, etc.?

I often get it in the stonehelm on the pact side and basically any town that I'm in. My ping tends to hop on up unless im in a Veteran area.

daemonios

LameoveR wrote: »

How is rig relates to server lag?

It isn't. But victim blaming is a powerful tool to derail a discussion.

Jaxsun

Critical mass....

dietlime

I've definitely experienced a few hiccups today, idling around some busy towns.