Starting next week EP

MADshadowman

Better stock up on tampons, you'll need them.

Karamis_Vimardon

MADshadowman wrote: »

Better stock up on tampons, you'll need them.

Thanks for the reminder! Keep forgetting to clean up the puddles of red at my feet tonight

Roechacca

MADshadowman wrote: »

Better stock up on tampons, you'll need them.

Why ? You're vamp . This will make Vamp more fun for one of Us .

Jauriel

LonePirate wrote: »

@Roechacca EP may have a preference for the speed and efficiency that results from our numbers; but please do not assume the faction is incapable of other play styles. We have plenty of DKs who can solo resources right now. The same goes for a couple of high DPS bow users. Next week's changes to VR12 may necessitate 2-3 DKs instead of 1 or maybe a couple of more bow users to take any resource we want. We have the numbers to spare, especially if DC has to divert soldiers from the primary battles to the secondary battles at resources.

We are also not intimidated by the increase in siege weapon damage. Our healers will simply use their skills more instead of standing around spamming chat like they do now. We will adapt and we will continue to capture Aleswell as much as we currently do.

A couple of things that won't be happening as much are DC captures of Chalman and the stealth flagging of EP keeps by a couple of DC players during the overnight hours. In fact, I am already in the process of consolidating EP support behind a proposal to use the title of "DC Memorial Graveyard" for the plot of land between the west Chalman wall and the Chalman Mine. The number of DC corpses there will skyrocket in the weeks to come.

While we appreciate your newfound optimism for the battles still to come, please prepare yourself for more of the same (EP reigning supreme).

Oh don't you worry. We have some of our best NB's and DK's watching those favorite DC resources you clowns like to troll at and they will certainly deal with yours. Not only that but my best NB, best DK, best Sorc all have the havoc causing ep players names on their guild note and we pay handsome bounties for your deaths. Death is coming for you EP. Prepare to enter sovngarde.

Jauriel

Roechacca wrote: »

Infact I heard so many people say just leave them in the tower last night I said fine , just give them Ales . That's exactly what happened , they took ales and everything shortly after . DC just all went south and farmed AP . So I didn't waste my time , went south and farmed AP too . ZFG

NPK never said that. We wore a path between ales and Chalman all night-defending and then attacking.

Jauriel

LonePirate wrote: »

sirston wrote: »

this graph again with no numbers.......

You mean that graph which does not reflect the significant changes in population numbers that have occurred on Thornblade in the past couple of weeks? AD and DC routinely trot that old information even when I present them with current information that differs with those old levels.

Satiar wrote: »

I got told I was zerging last night. With my 12 people.

How small is small enough, DC?!?!?! Must i literally send my warriors out to fight you, honorably one at a time?

@Safdar, in DC's defense, your group of 12 administered such a beat down at Aleswell and Rayles last night that they thought you were leading 100 or more EP soldiers into battle. Next time you might want to remove your armor and stop using ultimates when battling the DC masses in their territory in order to make it more of a fair fight

I think we ALL know by now when ep chimps come here and make these ridiculous 12 man strong claims it really means 40-50+ mindless 12-14 year old pugs riding WITH your 12 "brave" men. And those 12-14 year old pugs have been coached by some of the best havoc causers on your side to exploit, burden the server in order to cause game breaking lag. Yep. But please do not remove your armor. We wouldn't want ep to shame themselves even MORE.

Jauriel

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Well I'm looking forward to a invigorated adversary. DC is playing a strong game, and it is good to see them not giving away their game to AD in hopes of punishing EP. I used to hate dc, not because they were a challenge, but because they reminded me of that line from Fight Club, you guys were the Pandas that wouldn't *** to save their species. Keep up the good work, everyone want a challenge.

Just can NEVER give DC props without slipping in a backdoor insult, can you? DC has never "given" their game away to ad. Most of us just merely stay focused on EP. Now if we could just get ad to do the same. Time for you to come back to Thorn WRX.

Roechacca

Jauriel wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

Infact I heard so many people say just leave them in the tower last night I said fine , just give them Ales . That's exactly what happened , they took ales and everything shortly after . DC just all went south and farmed AP . So I didn't waste my time , went south and farmed AP too . ZFG

NPK never said that. We wore a path between ales and Chalman all night-defending and then attacking.

I never said any guild names

Pancake-Tragedy

Roechacca wrote: »

JDar wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

There will be no more Ales farm tower shenanigans . You're not gonna sit at the top of the tower with 9 Trebs raining down on your ballistas laughing merrily as you keep Ales burst . When Seige get deadly again the tower train will be a death trap . Now everything will change as well . More points for branching out and gathering resources across the map and soon towns . Your numbers will be spread thin trying to keep on the score board . This is exactly the play style DC has already mastered . We told you if you didn't stop zerging they'd change the rules on Ya to settle the lag issues . The chickens roost next week . I hope you're ready .

You must not play on Chill, the HOME of the DC ZERGFEST. EP patiently awaits the day when we can give those 60 plus person smurf blobs something to think about.

Play on Chillrend ? I thought people just went there for a day or two to escape serious pvp . Oh wait .. You're not seriously playing there are you ..?

I have trouble calling Thornblade serious play, although that could just be because I'm AD.

I'm stealing this GIF.

Roechacca

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

JDar wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

There will be no more Ales farm tower shenanigans . You're not gonna sit at the top of the tower with 9 Trebs raining down on your ballistas laughing merrily as you keep Ales burst . When Seige get deadly again the tower train will be a death trap . Now everything will change as well . More points for branching out and gathering resources across the map and soon towns . Your numbers will be spread thin trying to keep on the score board . This is exactly the play style DC has already mastered . We told you if you didn't stop zerging they'd change the rules on Ya to settle the lag issues . The chickens roost next week . I hope you're ready .

You must not play on Chill, the HOME of the DC ZERGFEST. EP patiently awaits the day when we can give those 60 plus person smurf blobs something to think about.

Play on Chillrend ? I thought people just went there for a day or two to escape serious pvp . Oh wait .. You're not seriously playing there are you ..?

I have trouble calling Thornblade serious play, although that could just be because I'm AD.

I'm stealing this GIF.

Wish I had my old phone I had a Racoon at work that use to hang out in my office and eat slim jims .

PeggymoeXD

Roechacca wrote: »

There will be no more Ales farm tower shenanigans . You're not gonna sit at the top of the tower with 9 Trebs raining down on your ballistas laughing merrily as you keep Ales burst . When Seige get deadly again the tower train will be a death trap . Now everything will change as well . More points for branching out and gathering resources across the map and soon towns . Your numbers will be spread thin trying to keep on the score board . This is exactly the play style DC has already mastered . We told you if you didn't stop zerging they'd change the rules on Ya to settle the lag issues . The chickens roost next week . I hope you're ready .

Not all EP guilds zerg. My guild since early access has played the low pop servers, with only fair fights or with us being outnumbered. Chrysamere, for example, where DC outnumbered us in every battle. We were forced to use tactics beyond blobbing and spamming. Of course, there isn't a whole lot we can do when 5 of us are roflstomped by 50 AD in Haderus because they're mad we attempted to take a home keep's resource back, especially in 1.6. So I'm REALLY hoping this fix will allow the guilds who specialize in strategic warfare to stand out.

WraithAzraiel

LonePirate wrote: »

@Roechacca EP may have a preference for the speed and efficiency that results from our numbers; but please do not assume the faction is incapable of other play styles. We have plenty of DKs who can solo resources right now. The same goes for a couple of high DPS bow users. Next week's changes to VR12 may necessitate 2-3 DKs instead of 1 or maybe a couple of more bow users to take any resource we want. We have the numbers to spare, especially if DC has to divert soldiers from the primary battles to the secondary battles at resources.

We are also not intimidated by the increase in siege weapon damage. Our healers will simply use their skills more instead of standing around spamming chat like they do now. We will adapt and we will continue to capture Aleswell as much as we currently do.

A couple of things that won't be happening as much are DC captures of Chalman and the stealth flagging of EP keeps by a couple of DC players during the overnight hours. In fact, I am already in the process of consolidating EP support behind a proposal to use the title of "DC Memorial Graveyard" for the plot of land between the west Chalman wall and the Chalman Mine. The number of DC corpses there will skyrocket in the weeks to come.

While we appreciate your newfound optimism for the battles still to come, please prepare yourself for more of the same (EP reigning supreme).

All evidence points to the contrary. EP may be the most organized and teamwork oriented of all the factions but it doesn't exclude the fact that certain abilities are slotted at all times with the sole function of producing as many particle effects as possible with intention of causing lag.

While yes, every faction has individuals that utilize this tactic, it is by FAR more prevalent with EP. And only made all the more obvious with the coordination of multiple groups.

Roechacca

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

Roechacca wrote: »

There will be no more Ales farm tower shenanigans . You're not gonna sit at the top of the tower with 9 Trebs raining down on your ballistas laughing merrily as you keep Ales burst . When Seige get deadly again the tower train will be a death trap . Now everything will change as well . More points for branching out and gathering resources across the map and soon towns . Your numbers will be spread thin trying to keep on the score board . This is exactly the play style DC has already mastered . We told you if you didn't stop zerging they'd change the rules on Ya to settle the lag issues . The chickens roost next week . I hope you're ready .

Not all EP guilds zerg. My guild since early access has played the low pop servers, with only fair fights or with us being outnumbered. Chrysamere, for example, where DC outnumbered us in every battle. We were forced to use tactics beyond blobbing and spamming. Of course, there isn't a whole lot we can do when 5 of us are roflstomped by 50 AD in Haderus because they're mad we attempted to take a home keep's resource back, especially in 1.6. So I'm REALLY hoping this fix will allow the guilds who specialize in strategic warfare to stand out.

I'm well aware there are great guilds in EP that like a challenge and to them I salute . Those players usually turn it out to be the toughest in the end and with the new scoring system Monday , a very real challenge .

WraithAzraiel

MADshadowman wrote: »

Better stock up on tampons, you'll need them.

(Methinks anyone whose faction color is that of blood shouldn't really make jokes including objects designed to soak up said blood)

To soak up the tide of Reds that just love to flow everywhere? Hey, great idea!

I hope they put a new siege weapon in game called, "Tampon" that has the express purpose of killing JUST EP and to top it all off, it soaks up their bodies so they can't be rez'd.

I imagine it'd look like a giant cotton battering ram.

xDOVAHKIINx

EP at the moment does have more players on for the majority of the day, but EP also defends against two factions for the majority of the day as well. And don't say that "zerging" is a cheap way to win because we do it on AD all the time, and so does DC. Like I have said in other posts, if there were some kind of 1v1-8v8 for keeps and territorial advancement, it would be used but as of right now thats not the case and numbers win.

xDOVAHKIINx

WRX wrote: »

Good these EP people can not comprehend a graph. Its really simple, and not something that can be argued.


And I can not wait until this lag *** dies down, come back and stomp all these big talkers on here like it was 2 weeks ago.


Feel free to come visit another server, we will say hi and teach you a thing or five.

I respect what you do (did) for our faction, but i don't think you can call another group of people for zerg balling. In fact the state of thorn blade ATM is abysmal (for AD). If you really want to make a point why don't you come over and win the main server for AD instead of backing away to a PVE server, and blame it on LAG.

WraithAzraiel

xDOVAHKIINx wrote: »

EP at the moment does have more players on for the majority of the day, but EP also defends against two factions for the majority of the day as well. And don't say that "zerging" is a cheap way to win because we do it on AD all the time, and so does DC. Like I have said in other posts, if there were some kind of 1v1-8v8 for keeps and territorial advancement, it would be used but as of right now thats not the case and numbers win.

AD used to do the same thing back when we demolished every serious campaign. So it's not like EP is doing anything wildly innovative and uniquely strategic.

As awful as it sounds, this WHOLE situation all started when a few AD guilds broke off from AD and defected to EP in order to "balance" the playing field.

Had that not happened, EP would still be getting stomped by AD.

xDOVAHKIINx

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

xDOVAHKIINx wrote: »

EP at the moment does have more players on for the majority of the day, but EP also defends against two factions for the majority of the day as well. And don't say that "zerging" is a cheap way to win because we do it on AD all the time, and so does DC. Like I have said in other posts, if there were some kind of 1v1-8v8 for keeps and territorial advancement, it would be used but as of right now thats not the case and numbers win.

AD used to do the same thing back when we demolished every serious campaign. So it's not like EP is doing anything wildly innovative and uniquely strategic.

As awful as it sounds, this WHOLE situation all started when a few AD guilds broke off from AD and defected to EP in order to "balance" the playing field.

Had that not happened, EP would still be getting stomped by AD.

Oh i know, I lost some good friends to EP for the sake of population imbalance that they tried to address. I personally did not think that was the answer. But i also amend them for doing something that most people in the game would have and probably still wont do. So good for them they proved their point, But our guilds on AD need to step it up and stop backing away is my point. They are making us look silly as a faction.

If i log on day in and day out with a group of "pugs" (as they would call us) and put good amounts of pressure on enemy keeps. Im sure a "Elite" (as they would call themselves) guild could take the map,

WraithAzraiel

In fact, if I remember correctly, it took a while for EP to gain any momentum and DC profited off of the lack of coordinated AD guilds lording over the campaigns.

But I've slept and drank since then so, who knows?

xDOVAHKIINx

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

In fact, if I remember correctly, it took a while for EP to gain any momentum and DC profited off of the lack of coordinated AD guilds lording over the campaigns.

But I've slept and drank since then so, who knows?

Yea times have changed, I just wonder how long its going to take for AD to regain its power.

Minno

Despite our misgivings, distaste, and anguish we feel towards our respective rivials, I think we can all agree on the following:

1) the "drama forum posts" fuel a sense of poetry; a romanticism that exists to propel ones faction above the others. (I'm going to be honest, it's fun).

2) lag or no lag, those still in thorn will provide proper PvP, even if it is painful(as evident in DC's rise in points, etc.)

3) We have to teach those pugs. The departure of other guilds means nothing if the new flux of players can't be taught the value of a good, hard earned fight (and assimilation into current faction-hands)

Everything else is static.

Thanks for reading this

-Minno-

KarshtheWraith

LonePirate wrote: »

@Roechacca EP may have a preference for the speed and efficiency that results from our numbers; but please do not assume the faction is incapable of other play styles. We have plenty of DKs who can solo resources right now. The same goes for a couple of high DPS bow users. Next week's changes to VR12 may necessitate 2-3 DKs instead of 1 or maybe a couple of more bow users to take any resource we want. We have the numbers to spare, especially if DC has to divert soldiers from the primary battles to the secondary battles at resources.

We are also not intimidated by the increase in siege weapon damage. Our healers will simply use their skills more instead of standing around spamming chat like they do now. We will adapt and we will continue to capture Aleswell as much as we currently do.

A couple of things that won't be happening as much are DC captures of Chalman and the stealth flagging of EP keeps by a couple of DC players during the overnight hours. In fact, I am already in the process of consolidating EP support behind a proposal to use the title of "DC Memorial Graveyard" for the plot of land between the west Chalman wall and the Chalman Mine. The number of DC corpses there will skyrocket in the weeks to come.

While we appreciate your newfound optimism for the battles still to come, please prepare yourself for more of the same (EP reigning supreme).

NEED THE LOL BUTTON FOR THIS BRING IT BACK!

Xsorus

I don't blame anyone for playing on chillrend, I do it when lag gets bad on thornblade

Jauriel

Personally, I think they should do away with guesting. When there are two campaigns (haderus and Azura) that are solid AD and never budge all this means is too many AD have retreated to those maps and aren't participating on a competitive level in the competitive campaigns. For crying out loud someone even suggested MORE campaigns! Can you imagine? It would be nothing but buff maps and one or two crammed to the hilt main campaigns.

Roechacca

Minno wrote: »

Despite our misgivings, distaste, and anguish we feel towards our respective rivials, I think we can all agree on the following:

1) the "drama forum posts" fuel a sense of poetry; a romanticism that exists to propel ones faction above the others. (I'm going to be honest, it's fun).

2) lag or no lag, those still in thorn will provide proper PvP, even if it is painful(as evident in DC's rise in points, etc.)

3) We have to teach those pugs. The departure of other guilds means nothing if the new flux of players can't be taught the value of a good, hard earned fight (and assimilation into current faction-hands)

Everything else is static.

Thanks for reading this

-Minno-

Even mild elbow ribbing can result in stiff penalties here . I think it's time to open some new forums to discuss things .

FireCowCommando

Still loving that theres players who have been around for a very long time claiming theres no serious pvp to be had except on their home campaign

There are lots of players who would rather work with their own guilds group to try to win, rather then logging on a very populated campaign that constantly deals with lag issues from 'zerg' mentality.

I am very excited for you guys in Thornblade, and i really hope that these changes do something to help with server stability for you guys. If server stability ever improves maybe you will start to see serious AvAvA guilds guesting into your campaign, rather then away from it due to performance issues.

Lord_Bidr

Huntler wrote: »

Verdwhisper wrote: »

lol it is funny to see ad &.dc think they dont have zergballs

Lol it is funny to see EP think that they aren't the prime zergball faction for the last 6+ months. See what I did there? No one is claiming that only EP balls up, but EP basically takes the cake for how their realm operates. Zerg all day every day.

Hey, if it was good enough for Sauron, it's good enough for EP.

Minno

Roechacca wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Despite our misgivings, distaste, and anguish we feel towards our respective rivials, I think we can all agree on the following:

1) the "drama forum posts" fuel a sense of poetry; a romanticism that exists to propel ones faction above the others. (I'm going to be honest, it's fun).

2) lag or no lag, those still in thorn will provide proper PvP, even if it is painful(as evident in DC's rise in points, etc.)

3) We have to teach those pugs. The departure of other guilds means nothing if the new flux of players can't be taught the value of a good, hard earned fight (and assimilation into current faction-hands)

Everything else is static.

Thanks for reading this

-Minno-

Even mild elbow ribbing can result in stiff penalties here . I think it's time to open some new forums to discuss things .

After reading the forums for PvP, I think we are missing an objective stance of how skills work similar to the way players in pve sections discuss.

I can be in a Trial raid, receive pointers in my healing setup and also hear the skills and specs required. It's missing in pvp; a little transparency goes a long way.

Its definitely toxic to hear "lag this, zerg that" consistently. A good old fashion spread sheet with data showing skill effectiveness in PvP is needed.

Jauriel

FireCowCommando wrote: »

Still loving that theres players who have been around for a very long time claiming theres no serious pvp to be had except on their home campaign

There are lots of players who would rather work with their own guilds group to try to win, rather then logging on a very populated campaign that constantly deals with lag issues from 'zerg' mentality.

I am very excited for you guys in Thornblade, and i really hope that these changes do something to help with server stability for you guys. If server stability ever improves maybe you will start to see serious AvAvA guilds guesting into your campaign, rather then away from it due to performance issues.

All well and great. But we are hearing the death lag is headed into your campaigns, too. So I see no reason to abandon Thorn and let ep make it a buff map.

Soul_Demon

http://esostats.com/

Seems Thornblade is the only campaign that isn't AD or DC buff server. So, by default that is the single server where there is real three way fight at present for anything. Doubt any serious PvP'ers will go anywhere else, que delays or not.