Radiant Destruction makes ESO into SWTOR?

Kevinmon

Laser beams firing everywhere that give 1-shot KOs for an ability that's not even an ultimate?

Discuss how the devs have made ESO into Star Wars, except with 999+ latency.

Panda244

With the power vested in me, by the Panda overlords. I hereby rename Jesus Beam, Death Star.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djZFHTa6TfA

tinythinker

This is only my own experience and others can obviously talk about their experiences with the ability.

The day that 1.6 hit the PTS I tried Radiant Oppression. I was able to kill a few people with 55-50% or less health who only had 16K to 22K total health and had the same gear and bars that had been copied from 1.5 on live, etc. A couple of days later, I could only kill people with it who had less than 35% health and who either A.) weren't wearing heavy/specced for Max Health or who B.) weren't shield stacking or spamming heals. Many people barely seemed ticked by it and some ate it like candy, even after 3 consecutive beams.

Last night I tried it on Live. Again I was using the same character, a VR14 Templar with all stats into health and gear set for Magicka Regen and Max Magicka bonuses. I was using top level purple food. In other words I had a decent amount of Magicka and easily kept it topped off. My experience was as follows:

Attacking with Radiant Oppression:

1. With about 3-4 dozen tries, not a single player was reduced by more than 20-25% health on the first hit. Many lost much less.
2. I could only "melt" people at 35-30% health or less and only if they weren't heavy tanking or shield stacking/heal spamming.
3. A few people ran out of its range ending the attack.

Being Attacked with Radiant Oppression:

1. Never died to it, unless someone tagged me with it as part of a group when I was at less than 5% health and didn't notice. I was hit several times by it, even when at 50-60% health.
2. I did however still die to A.) Rapid spam Bow attack combos stacked with Marked Target from a Nightblade, B.) getting perma-rooted and beaten to death by a Dragonknight, and C.) two-handed weapon users who won duels by stam attrition after a long slog.

Roechacca

I like Star Wars . I see no problem here .

Minack

Yeah Roe, but TOR is shite.

Ryuho

tinythinker wrote: »

This is only my own experience and others can obviously talk about their experiences with the ability.

The day that 1.6 hit the PTS I tried Radiant Oppression. I was able to kill a few people with 55-50% or less health who only had 16K to 22K total health and had the same gear and bars that had been copied from 1.5 on live, etc. A couple of days later, I could only kill people with it who had less than 35% health and who either A.) weren't wearing heavy/specced for Max Health or who B.) weren't shield stacking or spamming heals. Many people barely seemed ticked by it and some ate it like candy, even after 3 consecutive beams.

Last night I tried it on Live. Again I was using the same character, a VR14 Templar with all stats into health and gear set for Magicka Regen and Max Magicka bonuses. I was using top level purple food. In other words I had a decent amount of Magicka and easily kept it topped off. My experience was as follows:

Attacking with Radiant Oppression:

1. With about 3-4 dozen tries, not a single player was reduced by more than 20-25% health on the first hit. Many lost much less.
2. I could only "melt" people at 35-30% health or less and only if they weren't heavy tanking or shield stacking/heal spamming.

Being Attacked with Radiant Oppression:

1. Never died to it, unless someone tagged me with it as part of a group when I was at less than 5% health and didn't notice. I was hit several times by it, even when at 50-60% health.
2. I did however still die to A.) Rapid spam Bow attack combos stacked with Marked Target from a Nightblade, B.) getting perma-rooted and beaten to death by a Dragonknight, and C.) two-handed weapon users who won duels by stam attrition after a long slog.

This..

Radiant isn't bugged, bonus works for me at 30 - 35% HP.. Idk why ppls Qq about it, templar caster finally got cool tool, and ofc instantly is too OP.. Just learn to interrupt it, several ways to do so, instead of blocking maybe try it..

Galalin

This jesus beam is going end up being a laser pointer.... mwhahaha atleast you will be able to highlight targets for assist.

Long live the DK

Sorry guys had to troll

DK SCRUB OUT

Anazasi

I am starting to wonder if the ability everyone is complaining about is simply the unmorphed version Radiant Destruction. It is possible that this was not fixed while the morphed versions Radiant glory and Radiant Oppression are working as intended. I am also very concerned with the so called Nirn weapon bug and how this is effecting this new ability. I certainly hope that its the those aspects that are hurting this new ability rather than the final version of the ability itself.

Joy_Division

tinythinker wrote: »

This is only my own experience and others can obviously talk about their experiences with the ability.

The day that 1.6 hit the PTS I tried Radiant Oppression. I was able to kill a few people with 55-50% or less health who only had 16K to 22K total health and had the same gear and bars that had been copied from 1.5 on live, etc. A couple of days later, I could only kill people with it who had less than 35% health and who either A.) weren't wearing heavy/specced for Max Health or who B.) weren't shield stacking or spamming heals. Many people barely seemed ticked by it and some ate it like candy, even after 3 consecutive beams.

Last night I tried it on Live. Again I was using the same character, a VR14 Templar with all stats into health and gear set for Magicka Regen and Max Magicka bonuses. I was using top level purple food. In other words I had a decent amount of Magicka and easily kept it topped off. My experience was as follows:

Attacking with Radiant Oppression:

1. With about 3-4 dozen tries, not a single player was reduced by more than 20-25% health on the first hit. Many lost much less.
2. I could only "melt" people at 35-30% health or less and only if they weren't heavy tanking or shield stacking/heal spamming.

Being Attacked with Radiant Oppression:

1. Never died to it, unless someone tagged me with it as part of a group when I was at less than 5% health and didn't notice. I was hit several times by it, even when at 50-60% health.
2. I did however still die to A.) Rapid spam Bow attack combos stacked with Marked Target from a Nightblade, B.) getting perma-rooted and beaten to death by a Dragonknight, and C.) two-handed weapon users who won duels by stam attrition after a long slog.

You mean someone actually thinks and uses empirical observation rather than just whine on these forums? Have a cold one on me

RedTalon

This works for summing up pvp?

Dekkameron

Anazasi wrote: »

I am starting to wonder if the ability everyone is complaining about is simply the unmorphed version Radiant Destruction. It is possible that this was not fixed while the morphed versions Radiant glory and Radiant Oppression are working as intended. I am also very concerned with the so called Nirn weapon bug and how this is effecting this new ability. I certainly hope that its the those aspects that are hurting this new ability rather than the final version of the ability itself.

I agree. I watch quite a few people who pvp on Twitch and it is ALWAYS the unmorphed version that is getting used with dubious effect.

danno8

Dekkameron wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I am starting to wonder if the ability everyone is complaining about is simply the unmorphed version Radiant Destruction. It is possible that this was not fixed while the morphed versions Radiant glory and Radiant Oppression are working as intended. I am also very concerned with the so called Nirn weapon bug and how this is effecting this new ability. I certainly hope that its the those aspects that are hurting this new ability rather than the final version of the ability itself.

I agree. I watch quite a few people who pvp on Twitch and it is ALWAYS the unmorphed version that is getting used with dubious effect.

The recap, and CLS for that matter always state "Radiant Destruction" for me, even though I have morphed mine into Radiant Oppression. Must just be a bug

Pirhana7_ESO

LOL this is axactly what i said in chat last night. stand offs were nothing but yellow beams going back and forth, i think i saw over 10 beams at one time that could have been a screen shot. Wasnt sure if i had accidentally locked into SWTOR in a midevil world.

Roechacca

Minack wrote: »

Yeah Roe, but TOR is shite.

You ain't just whistling Dixie neither ....

Bashev

Ryuho wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

This is only my own experience and others can obviously talk about their experiences with the ability.

The day that 1.6 hit the PTS I tried Radiant Oppression. I was able to kill a few people with 55-50% or less health who only had 16K to 22K total health and had the same gear and bars that had been copied from 1.5 on live, etc. A couple of days later, I could only kill people with it who had less than 35% health and who either A.) weren't wearing heavy/specced for Max Health or who B.) weren't shield stacking or spamming heals. Many people barely seemed ticked by it and some ate it like candy, even after 3 consecutive beams.

Last night I tried it on Live. Again I was using the same character, a VR14 Templar with all stats into health and gear set for Magicka Regen and Max Magicka bonuses. I was using top level purple food. In other words I had a decent amount of Magicka and easily kept it topped off. My experience was as follows:

Attacking with Radiant Oppression:

1. With about 3-4 dozen tries, not a single player was reduced by more than 20-25% health on the first hit. Many lost much less.
2. I could only "melt" people at 35-30% health or less and only if they weren't heavy tanking or shield stacking/heal spamming.

Being Attacked with Radiant Oppression:

1. Never died to it, unless someone tagged me with it as part of a group when I was at less than 5% health and didn't notice. I was hit several times by it, even when at 50-60% health.
2. I did however still die to A.) Rapid spam Bow attack combos stacked with Marked Target from a Nightblade, B.) getting perma-rooted and beaten to death by a Dragonknight, and C.) two-handed weapon users who won duels by stam attrition after a long slog.

This..

Radiant isn't bugged, bonus works for me at 30 - 35% HP.. Idk why ppls Qq about it, templar caster finally got cool tool, and ofc instantly is too OP.. Just learn to interrupt it, several ways to do so, instead of blocking maybe try it..

Can you enlighten me how can I interrupt it if the templar use immovable?

Workerdroid7

Anazasi wrote: »

I am starting to wonder if the ability everyone is complaining about is simply the unmorphed version Radiant Destruction. It is possible that this was not fixed while the morphed versions Radiant glory and Radiant Oppression are working as intended.

You may be on to something here. I only play PVP in the non-vet campaign, and I don't know how many people have the morphs, but I have been DESTROYED by Radiant Destruction so many times it's ridiculous. If I look at my "death screen", the results will go something like this:

Skill x 1200
Skill y 1800
Skill z 1300
Radiant Destruction 13 500

Seems.... a little unbalanced to say the least. I took a screenshot of one of these reports, will post it when I get home (if I can figure out how to put images up).

Also, note that the damage figures are lower on the non-vet campaign than what you get on Vet campaigns, for obvious reasons.

tinythinker

Well, even at it's proper functioning (as per my experience described above) I have described it is still fun w/o being OP. Also helps me in Crag because I have lots of magicka regen as a the healer I can use PotL and Radiant to help finish boss fights. Even if the unmorphed version if bugged to make it a super-beam I prefer the intended version. I know they worked on this ability for 1.6.6 but not whether it was just for the unmorphed form or what difference people are seeing in PvP.

CPT_CAPSLOCK

Bashev wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

This is only my own experience and others can obviously talk about their experiences with the ability.

The day that 1.6 hit the PTS I tried Radiant Oppression. I was able to kill a few people with 55-50% or less health who only had 16K to 22K total health and had the same gear and bars that had been copied from 1.5 on live, etc. A couple of days later, I could only kill people with it who had less than 35% health and who either A.) weren't wearing heavy/specced for Max Health or who B.) weren't shield stacking or spamming heals. Many people barely seemed ticked by it and some ate it like candy, even after 3 consecutive beams.

Last night I tried it on Live. Again I was using the same character, a VR14 Templar with all stats into health and gear set for Magicka Regen and Max Magicka bonuses. I was using top level purple food. In other words I had a decent amount of Magicka and easily kept it topped off. My experience was as follows:

Attacking with Radiant Oppression:

1. With about 3-4 dozen tries, not a single player was reduced by more than 20-25% health on the first hit. Many lost much less.
2. I could only "melt" people at 35-30% health or less and only if they weren't heavy tanking or shield stacking/heal spamming.

Being Attacked with Radiant Oppression:

1. Never died to it, unless someone tagged me with it as part of a group when I was at less than 5% health and didn't notice. I was hit several times by it, even when at 50-60% health.
2. I did however still die to A.) Rapid spam Bow attack combos stacked with Marked Target from a Nightblade, B.) getting perma-rooted and beaten to death by a Dragonknight, and C.) two-handed weapon users who won duels by stam attrition after a long slog.

This..

Radiant isn't bugged, bonus works for me at 30 - 35% HP.. Idk why ppls Qq about it, templar caster finally got cool tool, and ofc instantly is too OP.. Just learn to interrupt it, several ways to do so, instead of blocking maybe try it..

Can you enlighten me how can I interrupt it if the templar use immovable?

Bash.

no problem

Tintinabula

what I'm not understanding..If its supposedly proccing at 50% and my hp is 2600 how am I getting death recaps with 16000 + RDs?(plus a smaller hit of approx 3k?)

Bashev

CPT_CAPSLOCK wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

This is only my own experience and others can obviously talk about their experiences with the ability.

The day that 1.6 hit the PTS I tried Radiant Oppression. I was able to kill a few people with 55-50% or less health who only had 16K to 22K total health and had the same gear and bars that had been copied from 1.5 on live, etc. A couple of days later, I could only kill people with it who had less than 35% health and who either A.) weren't wearing heavy/specced for Max Health or who B.) weren't shield stacking or spamming heals. Many people barely seemed ticked by it and some ate it like candy, even after 3 consecutive beams.

Last night I tried it on Live. Again I was using the same character, a VR14 Templar with all stats into health and gear set for Magicka Regen and Max Magicka bonuses. I was using top level purple food. In other words I had a decent amount of Magicka and easily kept it topped off. My experience was as follows:

Attacking with Radiant Oppression:

1. With about 3-4 dozen tries, not a single player was reduced by more than 20-25% health on the first hit. Many lost much less.
2. I could only "melt" people at 35-30% health or less and only if they weren't heavy tanking or shield stacking/heal spamming.

Being Attacked with Radiant Oppression:

1. Never died to it, unless someone tagged me with it as part of a group when I was at less than 5% health and didn't notice. I was hit several times by it, even when at 50-60% health.
2. I did however still die to A.) Rapid spam Bow attack combos stacked with Marked Target from a Nightblade, B.) getting perma-rooted and beaten to death by a Dragonknight, and C.) two-handed weapon users who won duels by stam attrition after a long slog.

This..

Radiant isn't bugged, bonus works for me at 30 - 35% HP.. Idk why ppls Qq about it, templar caster finally got cool tool, and ofc instantly is too OP.. Just learn to interrupt it, several ways to do so, instead of blocking maybe try it..

Can you enlighten me how can I interrupt it if the templar use immovable?

Bash.

no problem

Even that I am not sure whether it will works when the templar uses immovable but how can I close the gap of 35 meter skill when my gap closers are 22 meters?

Itoq

Tintinabula wrote: »

what I'm not understanding..If its supposedly proccing at 50% and my hp is 2600 how am I getting death recaps with 16000 + RDs?(plus a smaller hit of approx 3k?)

Healing received while your health is in execute range and RD is being channeled?

Bashev wrote: »

Even that I am not sure whether it will works when the templar uses immovable but how can I close the gap of 35 meter skill when my gap closers are 22 meters?

Back up out of range or move forward into range. DK's are used to standing in no mans land. But, now that there is a common counter (although a relatively weak one) to flappity flap, standing in no man's land might not always the best choice.

booksmcread

WTB force choke for my Templar.

Tintinabula

Itoq wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

what I'm not understanding..If its supposedly proccing at 50% and my hp is 2600 how am I getting death recaps with 16000 + RDs?(plus a smaller hit of approx 3k?)

Healing received while your health is in execute range and RD is being channeled?

Bashev wrote: »

Even that I am not sure whether it will works when the templar uses immovable but how can I close the gap of 35 meter skill when my gap closers are 22 meters?

Back up out of range or move forward into range. DK's are used to standing in no mans land. But, now that there is a common counter (although a relatively weak one) to flappity flap, standing in no man's land might not always the best choice.

Its so out of control ..I got hit at full health 24000 with radiant destruction and my death recap actually showed being hit for 15k and then a separate time for 10k by the same player. Its just stupid