Why no free respeccing?

Calrid
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After such a major change of the game, when people really have no idea what build to do any more, and are all effectively a bit newb again, why no free respecs? Give us a week of free respeccing with an update this major, come on that's just mean.

I love the changes, I hate the fact I can't for the life of me remember my old builds on my 3 vets. And when I can't I can't afford to respec, and am stuck with things I don't know, how or why but are morph I. If it wasn't bad enough I really don't know how anything works atm, I can't change or experiment either. Why is that?

Was expecting a free respec on this complete overhaul of the game, the only thing I was really disappointed about.
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  • Lovelyn
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    That would be nice, because i think I messed up big time, and want to cry.
  • folklore
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    I'm pretty sure I received a free respec. It's honestly not that much. You can get the gold for respecs really quickly through thieving and selling old mats that are no longer used. ( provisions. )

    I don't really agree with a weeks worth of respeccing -- but I did receive a free respec for skills + attributes after the update.
    Edited by folklore on March 5, 2015 12:13AM
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  • Rust_in_Peace
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    Just reset your morphs. It's much cheaper.
  • Zershar_Vemod
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    I received full respec.
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  • sandalz
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    I know for a fact that I did receive a free respec on all my characters. You may want to bring it up with the devs, as it was meant to be included in the update.
  • Dekkameron
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    sandalz wrote: »
    I know for a fact that I did receive a free respec on all my characters. You may want to bring it up with the devs, as it was meant to be included in the update.

    Unless the OP means respec as in change the actual class.
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  • MornaBaine
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    We did not get a free respec folks. We got a reset, where they yanked all our points whether we wanted them to or not. They have stuck us with a brand new game. Now if we had all started with level 1 characters this would make sense. But there is absolutely no way in Hades to know what you should best do with 50 some odd attribute points and 300 or so skill points. Free respecs til March 17th is the LEAST they could do for us.
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  • Rosveen
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    We did not get a free respec folks. We got a reset, where they yanked all our points whether we wanted them to or not. They have stuck us with a brand new game. Now if we had all started with level 1 characters this would make sense. But there is absolutely no way in Hades to know what you should best do with 50 some odd attribute points and 300 or so skill points. Free respecs til March 17th is the LEAST they could do for us.
    Agreed. I couldn't get on PTS (because reasons, don't ask), so I'm going in completely blind - as are all the people who just returned to the game, often after months of absence. I will certainly end up respeccing my morphs and possibly attributes too.
  • likewow777
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    Calrid wrote: »
    And when I can't I can't afford to respec, and am stuck with things I don't know, how or why but are morph I.

    Since OP talks about affording a respec, I think he/she was in fact talking about getting attribute and skill points back, not a class change. I only logged into my main last night, and I did get back all attribute and skill points. I believe this should clear it up:
    Once Update 6 goes live, we will automatically reset all skills and attributes due to all the gameplay adjustments being made. Taking a quick screenshot of your current build is definitely encouraged since this reset will occur upon login.

    If you didn't get one, I'd reach out to them.
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  • newtinmpls
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    Calrid wrote: »
    After such a major change of the game, when people really have no idea what build to do any more, and are all effectively a bit newb again, why no free respecs? Give us a week of free respeccing with an update this major, come on that's just mean.

    Then by all means take a week to fully respect your characters. I make a point of only doing about 1/2 my points till I have a better sense of what's what.
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  • Lazrael
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    Bump. This is almost an entirely different game now. The game hasn't changed this drastically since the beta. I think we should get a couple penalty free shots to experiment.
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  • technohic
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    I agree with at least a greatly reduced cost like they had done once before for another change. Some things I tried, then tried some more, and some more again as what I had before doesn't necessarily work now. Its bad enough I am regearing.
  • Calrid
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    I said a free respec for a week, like in cathedrals, like in was it update 3 or 4, where the game changed much, much less than U6. I do wish people would read more carfuly. :p
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  • Takhistis
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    I think OP means free respec at cathedrals. Because after these big changes, I feel like my first build might be crap and having to respec again would be likely as you'll want to change builds a few times to see which new build fits you most.

    This doesn't rlly apply to my Lvl 30 character but for some veterans...
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  • Kragorn
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    We did not get a free respec folks.
    Well of course you're wrong, we got exactly one of those.

    I don't disagree with your view of it being a FORCED respec/reset (which ever word you want to use, the're entirely synonymous in this context IMO) but pedantically a 'respec' and a RESET are the same thing except normally you have to pay for both Skill Point refunds AND to un-morph morphs separately, so in effect we got 2 FREE respecs/resets.

    Edited by Kragorn on March 5, 2015 10:19AM
  • Calrid
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    And a shed load of confused people wondering around wondering what the hell is going on. 48 hours of free respeccing even but I atm am just watching a slwe of questions all day everywhere from people who are utterly bewildered. When if they let you experiment most of them would of been silenced.

    Respec and reset are the same thing quite. I am not sure why that caused an issue but my bad.
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  • Calrid
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    Update 3 we got a week of free resets/respecs and that did very little compared to this update. Is that wise?
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  • Audigy
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    Calrid wrote: »
    After such a major change of the game, when people really have no idea what build to do any more, and are all effectively a bit newb again, why no free respecs? Give us a week of free respeccing with an update this major, come on that's just mean.

    I love the changes, I hate the fact I can't for the life of me remember my old builds on my 3 vets. And when I can't I can't afford to respec, and am stuck with things I don't know, how or why but are morph I. If it wasn't bad enough I really don't know how anything works atm, I can't change or experiment either. Why is that?

    Was expecting a free respec on this complete overhaul of the game, the only thing I was really disappointed about.

    We do have a free respec, if you don't then contact the customer support. I had all my former skill points reset and could place them for free.
    Edited by Audigy on March 6, 2015 6:56PM
  • BigM
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    We did not get a free respec folks. We got a reset, where they yanked all our points whether we wanted them to or not. They have stuck us with a brand new game. Now if we had all started with level 1 characters this would make sense. But there is absolutely no way in Hades to know what you should best do with 50 some odd attribute points and 300 or so skill points. Free respecs til March 17th is the LEAST they could do for us.

    Every online game has done this at one time or another. They should allow 1 or maybe 2 respecs free but it really isn't that bad. Heck didn't WoW do this like 3 times?
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  • WraithAzraiel
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    I received full respec.

    So did everybody else, on the launch of 1.6. OP is talking about reducing the cost of or making free, respec'ing skills so people can find their footing again as far as builds are concerned.
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  • Sphinx2318
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    1.6 = gold sink for respecs. easy way to take gold out of the economy...and DON'T think for a second that it wasn't thought about and discussed internally before deciding to not allow free respecs. ppl asked.. ZoS ignored.. nothing we can do about it... :/
  • Ballzy321
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    U make tons of gold stealing shouldn't be an issue
  • danovic
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    Made 1 mistake cost me 3000 gold at level 20 for full respec. It cost to much all the time! after a major change like this its totally idiotic not to lower the prices. They have in the past for small changes much less game changing changes.
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    Audigy wrote: »

    We do have a free respec, if you don't then contact the customer support. I had all my former skill points reset and could place them for free.

    Way to miss the point. Yes, there was a forced reset on first log-in, but many players including those returning after an absence had little idea what was going on, and even those who were aware of the changes but didn't try them out across various builds on the PTS are likely to need some experimenting before getting it "right". A few days grace is all the OP and others are asking for, and it isn't unreasonable. A few days in which to experiment with the massive game-changing skill revamp without bankrupting their characters in the process.
  • Robocles
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    We did not get a free respec folks. We got a reset, where they yanked all our points whether we wanted them to or not. They have stuck us with a brand new game. Now if we had all started with level 1 characters this would make sense. But there is absolutely no way in Hades to know what you should best do with 50 some odd attribute points and 300 or so skill points. Free respecs til March 17th is the LEAST they could do for us.

    But... that makes sense. And, doesn't help them milk cash from console players... see the pattern?
  • Calrid
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    Audigy wrote: »

    We do have a free respec, if you don't then contact the customer support. I had all my former skill points reset and could place them for free.

    what we can contact customer support and just get a free reset, why wasn't anyone informed? Because that's not true is it, or the GMs would be inundated with free respec requests.

    You missed the point, presumably you have a hard time getting the point, which is ok I assume your first language is not English, Never mind. Best luck next time.
    WTS a rare racial motif for a price that reflects it's value, you're probably the only one without an obsession for useless cosmetic crap. Who needs style anyway when you already have it?
  • Calrid
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    If anyone else feels the need to take cheap shots at the posters on this thread, pleas don't. If anyone wants to make a valid point please do. Trolling is not big or clever.
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  • drschplatt
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    It would be nice to get cheaper respec. Sorcs were screwed up so badly that one could easily dump 70k gold into trying to make one work. I don't have 70K gold to dump into my sorc. I don't really feel like dumping the 12k it'll cost me to respec once into it so I'm stuck with the skills I picked based on my previous understanding of the game.
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