Sorcerer - Stackable AoE - reported in 1.6.1 and still works (Video)

Alcast

@Halfbadger found a bug on PTS 1.6.1 while testing. We both bug-reported it back then. Thanks to Geert for helping us out

In 1.6.4 we tested it again and the bug still exists. Seems The bug is not High Priority and the bug will surely not mess up Leaderboards (LoL)
If it is not a bug than it is time to reroll sorc for sure.



http://youtu.be/a5v2-SUg_j8

Catherine pts had 72CP and swag-sorc-op-yolo had 3,6kCP.


Have fun and lets hope that bug is fixed before the patch goes live.

halfbadger

inb4 20 sorcs come in here and complain

jarydf

Love the rave video. LOL

Feynn

I am crossing my fingers and hoping this might not be a bug. After all, they did seem to imply that Liquid Lightning was the answer to all Sorc problems, didn't they?

Exstazik

it's stackable only on big range.
*Also heavy atack from 1h+shield has ~8-9m range

Xsorus

Feynn wrote: »

I am crossing my fingers and hoping this might not be a bug. After all, they did seem to imply that Liquid Lightning was the answer to all Sorc problems, didn't they?

Seriously?

Kingdinguhling

so is the problem that it stacks with it self from the same Sorcerer? or that it stacks with other Sorcerers Liquid Lightning?

Or Both?

from the video it looks like it is doing both but I'm not sure. And does it do this everywhere?

Flaminir

<Logs back in to level up Liquid Lightning just in case>

Nightreaver

It's not a bug.
It's working as (I) intended.

Hypertionb14_ESO

multiple casts from one caster stacking is definitely a bug that should be fixed.

Casts of two different characters stacking is as intended.

in the video it does visually look like its stacking more than just 2 times....

I would love that this kind of stacking is intended behavior tho... as a 7 day early release Sorcerer player.

but it doesn't make sense balance wise.

Erock25

I suggest you delete this thread because it is against the terms of service to troll for insightfuls.

Radixo

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

Exstazik

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Alcast

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

Tankqull

Alcast wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

and? the ae component only matters against trashmobs and against them its impossible to make it work due to the mechanic required. so that part is a non issue. the high magica cost limit its usage against bosses as seen in the vid as the DPS will drop significantly below values lower than e.g. 2h builds when fights start to last longer than 20-30seconds.

Alcast

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

and? the ae component only matters against trashmobs and against them its impossible to make it work due to the mechanic required. so that part is a non issue. the high magica cost limit its usage against bosses as seen in the vid as the DPS will drop significantly below values lower than e.g. 2h builds when fights start to last longer than 20-30seconds.

The only reason i run out in 20 sec was bc i do not have the right gear and did not have the right glpyhs on jewelry. I can make that work 1min pretty sure. And yes, 200k AOE dps on trashmobs for example in SO does not matter right? >.> But well w/e. If it doesnt get fixed it will be exploited hard.

Exstazik

Alcast wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

Why not? ZOS wanted make sorc best caster....so mb it's working as indeed?

Tankqull

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

and? the ae component only matters against trashmobs and against them its impossible to make it work due to the mechanic required. so that part is a non issue. the high magica cost limit its usage against bosses as seen in the vid as the DPS will drop significantly below values lower than e.g. 2h builds when fights start to last longer than 20-30seconds.

The only reason i run out in 20 sec was bc i do not have the right gear and did not have the right glpyhs on jewelry. I can make that work 1min pretty sure. And yes, 200k AOE dps on trashmobs for example in SO does not matter right? >.> But well w/e. If it doesnt get fixed it will be exploited hard.

first you have a rampuptime, second good luck trying to keep them in that area.

another thing can you test ash cloud if it has the same issues?
it probably now uses the same code as LL and an additional 70% snare while lasting 80% longer with 40% bigger area of effect - will dish out even more dmg and will be an issue in terms of ae destroying trash as it will be much easier to keep them in it.

Alcast

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

and? the ae component only matters against trashmobs and against them its impossible to make it work due to the mechanic required. so that part is a non issue. the high magica cost limit its usage against bosses as seen in the vid as the DPS will drop significantly below values lower than e.g. 2h builds when fights start to last longer than 20-30seconds.

The only reason i run out in 20 sec was bc i do not have the right gear and did not have the right glpyhs on jewelry. I can make that work 1min pretty sure. And yes, 200k AOE dps on trashmobs for example in SO does not matter right? >.> But well w/e. If it doesnt get fixed it will be exploited hard.

first you have a rampuptime, second good luck trying to keep them in that area.

another thing can you test ash cloud if it has the same issues?
it probably now uses the same code as LL and an additional 70% snare while lasting 80% longer with 40% bigger area of effect - will dish out even more dmg and will be an issue in terms of ae destroying trash as it will be much easier to keep them in it.

We tested almost all ranged skills and it only works with Liquid Lightning. It needs to be ranged otherwise it does not work.

Artemiisia

well then suddenly sorc comes viable in everything if this goes live, even in speed trials, since mobs will get nuked faster with them than not having them )

Tankqull

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

and? the ae component only matters against trashmobs and against them its impossible to make it work due to the mechanic required. so that part is a non issue. the high magica cost limit its usage against bosses as seen in the vid as the DPS will drop significantly below values lower than e.g. 2h builds when fights start to last longer than 20-30seconds.

The only reason i run out in 20 sec was bc i do not have the right gear and did not have the right glpyhs on jewelry. I can make that work 1min pretty sure. And yes, 200k AOE dps on trashmobs for example in SO does not matter right? >.> But well w/e. If it doesnt get fixed it will be exploited hard.

first you have a rampuptime, second good luck trying to keep them in that area.

another thing can you test ash cloud if it has the same issues?
it probably now uses the same code as LL and an additional 70% snare while lasting 80% longer with 40% bigger area of effect - will dish out even more dmg and will be an issue in terms of ae destroying trash as it will be much easier to keep them in it.

We tested almost all ranged skills and it only works with Liquid Lightning. It needs to be ranged otherwise it does not work.

ash cloud is a ranged gtae - thats why i asked.

Alcast

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

and? the ae component only matters against trashmobs and against them its impossible to make it work due to the mechanic required. so that part is a non issue. the high magica cost limit its usage against bosses as seen in the vid as the DPS will drop significantly below values lower than e.g. 2h builds when fights start to last longer than 20-30seconds.

The only reason i run out in 20 sec was bc i do not have the right gear and did not have the right glpyhs on jewelry. I can make that work 1min pretty sure. And yes, 200k AOE dps on trashmobs for example in SO does not matter right? >.> But well w/e. If it doesnt get fixed it will be exploited hard.

first you have a rampuptime, second good luck trying to keep them in that area.

another thing can you test ash cloud if it has the same issues?
it probably now uses the same code as LL and an additional 70% snare while lasting 80% longer with 40% bigger area of effect - will dish out even more dmg and will be an issue in terms of ae destroying trash as it will be much easier to keep them in it.

We tested almost all ranged skills and it only works with Liquid Lightning. It needs to be ranged otherwise it does not work.

ash cloud is a ranged gtae - thats why i asked.

hmm sec i will check it

Tankqull

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

and? the ae component only matters against trashmobs and against them its impossible to make it work due to the mechanic required. so that part is a non issue. the high magica cost limit its usage against bosses as seen in the vid as the DPS will drop significantly below values lower than e.g. 2h builds when fights start to last longer than 20-30seconds.

The only reason i run out in 20 sec was bc i do not have the right gear and did not have the right glpyhs on jewelry. I can make that work 1min pretty sure. And yes, 200k AOE dps on trashmobs for example in SO does not matter right? >.> But well w/e. If it doesnt get fixed it will be exploited hard.

first you have a rampuptime, second good luck trying to keep them in that area.

another thing can you test ash cloud if it has the same issues?
it probably now uses the same code as LL and an additional 70% snare while lasting 80% longer with 40% bigger area of effect - will dish out even more dmg and will be an issue in terms of ae destroying trash as it will be much easier to keep them in it.

We tested almost all ranged skills and it only works with Liquid Lightning. It needs to be ranged otherwise it does not work.

ash cloud is a ranged gtae - thats why i asked.

hmm sec i will check it

its exactly the same ability as liquid lightning + 50% bigger area [78 instead of LL 50m²] of effect, 70% snare and 80% longer duration...

Alcast

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

Radixo wrote: »

Yes, this is a serious bug and once you know how to reproduce it is not hard to repeat. Was able to figure it out in 5 minutes after watching the video. Won't tell how so less people exploit this, but someone who wants to will figure it out. Also making a bug public is a good way to draw attention to it and get it fixed. And people who think this works as intended are crazy, with this you are able to spam a skill which does 20k+ dmg per cast. You won't be able to do this on every boss, but on most.

wreckling blow 15k_dmg per cast all is fair

Well Wblow is pure single target. This is AoE. We will see artillery Sorcs in 1.6 if it does not get fixed lol

and? the ae component only matters against trashmobs and against them its impossible to make it work due to the mechanic required. so that part is a non issue. the high magica cost limit its usage against bosses as seen in the vid as the DPS will drop significantly below values lower than e.g. 2h builds when fights start to last longer than 20-30seconds.

The only reason i run out in 20 sec was bc i do not have the right gear and did not have the right glpyhs on jewelry. I can make that work 1min pretty sure. And yes, 200k AOE dps on trashmobs for example in SO does not matter right? >.> But well w/e. If it doesnt get fixed it will be exploited hard.

first you have a rampuptime, second good luck trying to keep them in that area.

another thing can you test ash cloud if it has the same issues?
it probably now uses the same code as LL and an additional 70% snare while lasting 80% longer with 40% bigger area of effect - will dish out even more dmg and will be an issue in terms of ae destroying trash as it will be much easier to keep them in it.

We tested almost all ranged skills and it only works with Liquid Lightning. It needs to be ranged otherwise it does not work.

ash cloud is a ranged gtae - thats why i asked.

Nope, doesnt work, It must be smth they have changed with the Liquid Lightning and maybe they forgot to add a limit or i really dunno.

Erlex

/applaud Just want to take a moment to thank @Alcast and @Halfbadger for doing all the PTS work that needed to be done. Make sure you check out their DPS reports on Tamrielfoudnry.com if you haven't already!

Samadhi

Too lazy to brain today, but how limited is the bug and how easy is it to pull off?

Will Sorcerers be stacking Liquid in PvP to quick-wipe people at breaches?
If someone casts purge does it explode like Wall did?

lolo_01b16_ESO

In PvP it's even easier to use than in PvE. I haven't tried if you can purge it, but even if it's not purged many people will die while running through.

ToRelax

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

In PvP it's even easier to use than in PvE. I haven't tried if you can purge it, but even if it's not purged many people will die while running through.

I can imagine and it's rediculous, needs to be fixed.

Of course it would be nice if Lightning Flood actually became a viable AoE for PvP as intended... .

Reykice

LOL let`s be fair they won`t let this go to live unless they really don`t care about the game or their players and so on....

I just don`t think it made it in 1.6.4 but yea...

Even IF it makes it to live, i remember Blizzard hot fixing things like this in hours, since its ZENIMAX it may take them up to a day but it should get fixed. Lame if it makes it to live anyway.

In the small chance it does make it to live i expect articles about 1.6 to mention it along with the fact that Zenimax doesn`t care about critical bugs.... i already pointed it out to a mate who works for a gaming website in my country and while he said they might not do a 1.6 article, he`ll make sure its mentioned. Even more funny since the game has leader boards....

Anyway, they get to decide how much they care about it.

Tanis-Stormbinder

LOL I hope they leave it as is

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

Tanis-Stormbinder wrote: »

LOL I hope they leave it as is

Really?