Chillrend (EU)

Etaniel

Beesting wrote: »

I have been playing eso everyday since early access but only pvp for 2 weeks now, on chillrend campain and i must say it feels very unbalanced having exile running bomb squads and just coming in and taking whatever they like whenever they choose too.

I mean it is supposed to be fun for hundreds of players to pvp, mostly noobs like me probably that are bored with dungeons ( 80 coa runs) and trials and like a new challenge.

But no, then abraxus showes up and smacks everyone up. I watched some of his vids and it must be great to play with 15 people moving like one, 15 times the dps against whatever you meet,

But it just ruins the fun for normal players , instead they are farmed for useless ap

Maybe pvp is just not for me, thx to exile...

If they are ruining it for anyone, it's for their own faction ^^ No one to fight, nothing to defend, everything has been done by Exile already :P

MoneyOverEverything

Beesting wrote: »

I have been playing eso everyday since early access but only pvp for 2 weeks now, on chillrend campain and i must say it feels very unbalanced having exile running bomb squads and just coming in and taking whatever they like whenever they choose too.

I mean it is supposed to be fun for hundreds of players to pvp, mostly noobs like me probably that are bored with dungeons ( 80 coa runs) and trials and like a new challenge.

But no, then abraxus showes up and smacks everyone up. I watched some of his vids and it must be great to play with 15 people moving like one, 15 times the dps against whatever you meet,

But it just ruins the fun for normal players , instead they are farmed for useless ap

Maybe pvp is just not for me, thx to exile...

lol, just lol

abrax -> beesting -> valkyrin skoria

i think abrax should get his own set-items because he is stornger than valkyrin skoria

heres my idea

Shoulders + Helmet

(1 set piece bonus) 995 magicka

(2 set piece bonus) You have a 60% chance to cast "Breath of Life" and "Blazing Shield" after a 5 Players-Killstreak while running in a group. This effect can only happen once in 20 seconds.

Beesting

I have another idea, as the driving force for abraxes and his team is AP farming, they even leave castles under attack longer than needed so more ad defenders show up for like 15 mins for their glorified farming trip

A friend told me yesterday he made 500 k ap in one day playing with their team.

So now my idea : when they have farmed more than lets say 100 k a day, and they are killed, they cannot re-enter the campain untill the next day

That would give me a strong motivation to log in everyday and fight them over and over untill they are killed.

Atm i have none, it os sickening to see the ad zone chats of people begging their teammates to stop running into the farm traps. That is not pvp

@ZOS_GinaBruno you removed forward camps, please now implement this and more people will keep playing

Beesting

MoneyOverEverything wrote: »

Beesting wrote: »

I have been playing eso everyday since early access but only pvp for 2 weeks now, on chillrend campain and i must say it feels very unbalanced having exile running bomb squads and just coming in and taking whatever they like whenever they choose too.

I mean it is supposed to be fun for hundreds of players to pvp, mostly noobs like me probably that are bored with dungeons ( 80 coa runs) and trials and like a new challenge.

But no, then abraxus showes up and smacks everyone up. I watched some of his vids and it must be great to play with 15 people moving like one, 15 times the dps against whatever you meet,

But it just ruins the fun for normal players , instead they are farmed for useless ap

Maybe pvp is just not for me, thx to exile...

lol, just lol

abrax -> beesting -> valkyrin skoria

i think abrax should get his own set-items because he is stornger than valkyrin skoria

heres my idea

Shoulders + Helmet

(1 set piece bonus) 995 magicka

(2 set piece bonus) You have a 60% chance to cast "Breath of Life" and "Blazing Shield" after a 5 Players-Killstreak while running in a group. This effect can only happen once in 20 seconds.

@AbraXuSeXile having a whole 2 piece set would be a nice crown on your lifework, haha

But the bonus should say "You have a 100% change when losing a fight to be restored to full health and be placed safely behind all members in your group, saving yourself the effort to call out for help on ts "

That way normal players that farm the 2 piece set could experience the kind of pvp you enjoy daily haha

Legedric

The motivation to kill them shouldn't be to lock them out but to... kill them. Simple as that.

But as you already stated above you are not able to kill them with your "Random-John-Doe" group. So what's the point of your proposal?

You cannot expect to kill a well coordinated and trained group of 15 people with 50 random individuals.
That's like expecting to kill a team of 15 Navy Seals with a group of 50 farmers that don't even talk to each other... won't happen.

You may be a PvE pro but PvP is different. You get most out of it by using perfect teamplay and discipline. It doesn't work to read tactics, watch youtube videos and learn by try & error to take down a well coordinated group like a Sanctum or Vet DSA boss.

Make your own tactics to counter other groups (not only exile). Don't blame the community or the game mechanics itself for you being a PvP noob raging about getting #rekt by a professional PvP guild.

Beesting

Legedric wrote: »

The motivation to kill them shouldn't be to lock them out but to... kill them. Simple as that.

But as you already stated above you are not able to kill them with your "Random-John-Doe" group. So what's the point of your proposal?

You cannot expect to kill a well coordinated and trained group of 15 people with 50 random individuals.
That's like expecting to kill a team of 15 Navy Seals with a group of 50 farmers that don't even talk to each other... won't happen.

You may be a PvE pro but PvP is different. You get most out of it by using perfect teamplay and discipline. It doesn't work to read tactics, watch youtube videos and learn by try & error to take down a well coordinated group like a Sanctum or Vet DSA boss.

Make your own tactics to counter other groups (not only exile). Don't blame the community or the game mechanics itself for you being a PvP noob raging about getting #rekt by a professional PvP guild.

Give me one example where it is ok for 15 navy seals to take out 50 farmers


You can't, they would be court martialed

People log in to do pvp, instead they could do others things they enjoy. A sanctum or dsa boss doesn't feel pain, disappointment or frustration, so taking a so called well trained team to kill them is fine

But here you are defending abraxus and his pvp heroes, thx for the support !

pppontus

Beesting wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

The motivation to kill them shouldn't be to lock them out but to... kill them. Simple as that.

But as you already stated above you are not able to kill them with your "Random-John-Doe" group. So what's the point of your proposal?

You cannot expect to kill a well coordinated and trained group of 15 people with 50 random individuals.
That's like expecting to kill a team of 15 Navy Seals with a group of 50 farmers that don't even talk to each other... won't happen.

You may be a PvE pro but PvP is different. You get most out of it by using perfect teamplay and discipline. It doesn't work to read tactics, watch youtube videos and learn by try & error to take down a well coordinated group like a Sanctum or Vet DSA boss.

Make your own tactics to counter other groups (not only exile). Don't blame the community or the game mechanics itself for you being a PvP noob raging about getting #rekt by a professional PvP guild.

Give me one example where it is ok for 15 navy seals to take out 50 farmers


You can't, they would be court martialed

People log in to do pvp, instead they could do others things they enjoy. A sanctum or dsa boss doesn't feel pain, disappointment or frustration, so taking a so called well trained team to kill them is fine

But here you are defending abraxus and his pvp heroes, thx for the support !

Hm.. maybe if the 50 farmers went into a war zone fighting for the enemy? Just saying.

Seriously, I hate balls because they are boring and annoying, but I don't complain that I can't kill them because I brought 50 bad players. I either bring good players and do the same boring thing or I continue in my small group and just avoid them.

Sounds like you expect to win because you have higher numbers, there's way too much of that *** in ESO PvP already.

Legedric

Ok perhaps 50 farmers were a bad example, take 50 random armed fighters that don't talk to each other instead.

However, I think you got the point.

I am not defending Abraxus or anyone else in person. I am defending ESO PvP as it is: What YOU make out of it. In fact I am not in one of those groups and I get rekt by similar groups pretty often. But that's what I expect to get in an open zone PvP battle. I move on and take it as a lesson.

It is a kind of open (world/zone) PvP and too much limitations brings it back to the same crap every other MMO is providing out there.

Would you also complain about it when you go into a 5v5 arena in a random team and you encounter a well coordinated/trained team and get rekt by them? You have to expect this...

There are pro players around in Cyrodiil... oh who could have expected this?
Instead of building your own team and training PvP you come here and start whining on the forums yelling for ZOS to change the game and send a big "FU" towards these pro players...

Beesting

Ok, never mind, i will just change my campain. Bye bye chillrend after tonight. As the nr 2 ad side and 25 th overall i might get some ok loot to remember my 2 weeks here. It was certainly interesting.

Legedric

Bye bye and greetings to the wrecking ball group you encounter on your next campaign...

babanovac

Etaniel wrote: »

Beesting wrote: »

I have been playing eso everyday since early access but only pvp for 2 weeks now, on chillrend campain and i must say it feels very unbalanced having exile running bomb squads and just coming in and taking whatever they like whenever they choose too.

I mean it is supposed to be fun for hundreds of players to pvp, mostly noobs like me probably that are bored with dungeons ( 80 coa runs) and trials and like a new challenge.

But no, then abraxus showes up and smacks everyone up. I watched some of his vids and it must be great to play with 15 people moving like one, 15 times the dps against whatever you meet,

But it just ruins the fun for normal players , instead they are farmed for useless ap

Maybe pvp is just not for me, thx to exile...

If they are ruining it for anyone, it's for their own faction ^^ No one to fight, nothing to defend, everything has been done by Exile already :P

Actually they are ruining it for everyone, because they are killing the server. I'm guessing these people missed 2014 when large scale pvp was actually possible, and have just recently found out that playing bombing groups with your guild mates is fun.

Tough luck for everyone, when they log on, no one else can play.

Large scale PvP is dead since autumn. Stop bombing so the rest of us can enjoy a lag free game please.

Saft

Agree bomb groups ruin fun except for themself. Change magica detonation so it hit incrasingly hard the more targets it affect. a suggestion would be 2k dmg per player within 8m of cursed enemy.

1 player 2k nuke
2 player 4k
8 player 16k
12 player 24k

There, solution about bomb groups ruining gameplay for all else is solved.

Now sure they can break up into mutiple groups of lets say 4 in eatch, will make magica detonation only do 8k dmg, but dealing with 3 groups 4 players split in different locations should be alot easier then 12 bombers at one place.

Saft

Beesting wrote: »

Ok, never mind, i will just change my campain. Bye bye chillrend after tonight. As the nr 2 ad side and 25 th overall i might get some ok loot to remember my 2 weeks here. It was certainly interesting.

I feel excetly as you do, i play chillrend also. I am tired of bomb group player mentality and lagbraxus mentality where its a concept of lagging down server before rushing into a keep as tactic is worst of all out there.

I had a good laugh when we bananas casuals fought tomato casuals at a keep (was just breaced) and i said on Teamspeak to my friend, weird, its lag even without lagbraxus not here . Just matter of seconds later, a smurf bomb group show up outside of right side of keep, it explained the lag, because the "elite" bomb squad with lagbraxus friends was rolling into keep, spamming meteors and healing spring.


Its just this "elite" players ruin server stability and gameplay for most others are on all campaigns on all factions almost. Lagbraxus is not unique, until zenimax give us a true counter (weak magica detonation was their attemt) there will continue to be lag.

Legedric

We (like 40-60 DC) had some fun fights yesterday evening at BRK on Chillrend for more than an hour against like 40-60 bananas... dunno what you call large scale PvP but for me this sounds pretty large scale.

However... haters gonna hate... I enjoy Chillrend PvP these days and I am not part of one of the bigger groups... mostyl solo or small scale roaming.

iseko

Not a fan of abraxus' group but I dont think they are lagging the server. Let alone intentionally. The only thing that can be said about their bomb squad is that one way to counter it is by stacking up as well, using aoe and nuking them with ulti's. Since they do the same... That conflict is gonna lag out the server. Horrid way of playing the game but still the most effective I guess.

Saft

Legedric wrote: »

We (like 40-60 DC) had some fun fights yesterday evening at BRK on Chillrend for more than an hour against like 40-60 bananas... dunno what you call large scale PvP but for me this sounds pretty large scale.

Yes we bananas had a guest visit of phoenix with his bomber crew yesterday. It was noticable because your team lost keep after keep. Otherwise reds and yellows had none or very little bomb squads, so it became very obvious the other 13 days its lagbraxus team that cause lag. Lag follow their bomb squad around.

iseko wrote: »

Not a fan of abraxus' group but I dont think they are lagging the server. Let alone intentionally. The only thing that can be said about their bomb squad is that one way to counter it is by stacking up as well, using aoe and nuking them with ulti's. Since they do the same... That conflict is gonna lag out the server. Horrid way of playing the game but still the most effective I guess.

So, you don't think lagbraxus group lag server, but you think if we all else stack ae and go bomb group it will cause lag?

Something wrong there, all healing spring spamming, metoer bombing squads cause lags, nomatter what faction. Its just there just been lagbraxus around on chillrend most of time, so it became so obvious its his crew causing lag.

Sorry but thats the fact.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

Yes, blame the lag on us I'd say it's the servers and poor coding, but well.

By the way, you can kill zergs with Magicka Detonation really well, you just can't do it on your own .

T3hOwnage69

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Saft wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

We (like 40-60 DC) had some fun fights yesterday evening at BRK on Chillrend for more than an hour against like 40-60 bananas... dunno what you call large scale PvP but for me this sounds pretty large scale.

Yes we bananas had a guest visit of phoenix with his bomber crew yesterday. It was noticable because your team lost keep after keep. Otherwise reds and yellows had none or very little bomb squads, so it became very obvious the other 13 days its lagbraxus team that cause lag. Lag follow their bomb squad around.

iseko wrote: »

Not a fan of abraxus' group but I dont think they are lagging the server. Let alone intentionally. The only thing that can be said about their bomb squad is that one way to counter it is by stacking up as well, using aoe and nuking them with ulti's. Since they do the same... That conflict is gonna lag out the server. Horrid way of playing the game but still the most effective I guess.

So, you don't think lagbraxus group lag server, but you think if we all else stack ae and go bomb group it will cause lag?

Something wrong there, all healing spring spamming, metoer bombing squads cause lags, nomatter what faction. Its just there just been lagbraxus around on chillrend most of time, so it became so obvious its his crew causing lag.

Sorry but thats the fact.

lol dude really once phoenix and co came to roebeck i think the ping got over 300 when they clusterf**kt together and spamming there ice comet got a nice 50k fall dmg from it lolz we left to some other keep cause there just as bad as the ep zergtrains when it comes down too spamming *** although the previous encounters werent that bad with em

Legedric

Just to clarify: I am referring to the large scale battle at BRK yesterday... didn't see any bomb squad there. Just recognized Magica de Hex and the rest of the Banana Squad but they were not bombing...

iseko

Saft wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

We (like 40-60 DC) had some fun fights yesterday evening at BRK on Chillrend for more than an hour against like 40-60 bananas... dunno what you call large scale PvP but for me this sounds pretty large scale.

Yes we bananas had a guest visit of phoenix with his bomber crew yesterday. It was noticable because your team lost keep after keep. Otherwise reds and yellows had none or very little bomb squads, so it became very obvious the other 13 days its lagbraxus team that cause lag. Lag follow their bomb squad around.

iseko wrote: »

Not a fan of abraxus' group but I dont think they are lagging the server. Let alone intentionally. The only thing that can be said about their bomb squad is that one way to counter it is by stacking up as well, using aoe and nuking them with ulti's. Since they do the same... That conflict is gonna lag out the server. Horrid way of playing the game but still the most effective I guess.

So, you don't think lagbraxus group lag server, but you think if we all else stack ae and go bomb group it will cause lag?

Something wrong there, all healing spring spamming, metoer bombing squads cause lags, nomatter what faction. Its just there just been lagbraxus around on chillrend most of time, so it became so obvious its his crew causing lag.

Sorry but thats the fact.

Yes. Glad you understand. Occasionally someone from exile will drop a meteor but usually they dont mass spam it.
A lot of their healing is not done by healing springs but by temp breath of life.
Their usual tactic seems to be: barrier + prox det + bats + impulse(lightning and fire) + steel tornado. Tanks rotate at the front with temp healers spamming BoL. Impulse is the only real skill that they spam as far as ive seen that can cause lagg. But Ive fought them a lot raid vs raid without any lag. I usually get lag fighting them on a flag inside a keep when other raids are around as well. Everyone stacked on the flag. So much healing springs that it becomes blinding. Meteors crashing down like its the new years eve. Impulse everywhere.

So yes. If 1 raid stacks up with a zerg around it fighting the exile bomb squad with a dc zerg around then the server starts shitting its pants. Which is pretty much every fight for an emp keep.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

iseko wrote: »

Saft wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

We (like 40-60 DC) had some fun fights yesterday evening at BRK on Chillrend for more than an hour against like 40-60 bananas... dunno what you call large scale PvP but for me this sounds pretty large scale.

Yes we bananas had a guest visit of phoenix with his bomber crew yesterday. It was noticable because your team lost keep after keep. Otherwise reds and yellows had none or very little bomb squads, so it became very obvious the other 13 days its lagbraxus team that cause lag. Lag follow their bomb squad around.

iseko wrote: »

Not a fan of abraxus' group but I dont think they are lagging the server. Let alone intentionally. The only thing that can be said about their bomb squad is that one way to counter it is by stacking up as well, using aoe and nuking them with ulti's. Since they do the same... That conflict is gonna lag out the server. Horrid way of playing the game but still the most effective I guess.

So, you don't think lagbraxus group lag server, but you think if we all else stack ae and go bomb group it will cause lag?

Something wrong there, all healing spring spamming, metoer bombing squads cause lags, nomatter what faction. Its just there just been lagbraxus around on chillrend most of time, so it became so obvious its his crew causing lag.

Sorry but thats the fact.

Yes. Glad you understand. Occasionally someone from exile will drop a meteor but usually they dont mass spam it.
A lot of their healing is not done by healing springs but by temp breath of life.
Their usual tactic seems to be: barrier + prox det + bats + impulse(lightning and fire) + steel tornado. Tanks rotate at the front with temp healers spamming BoL. Impulse is the only real skill that they spam as far as ive seen that can cause lagg. But Ive fought them a lot raid vs raid without any lag. I usually get lag fighting them on a flag inside a keep when other raids are around as well. Everyone stacked on the flag. So much healing springs that it becomes blinding. Meteors crashing down like its the new years eve. Impulse everywhere.

So yes. If 1 raid stacks up with a zerg around it fighting the exile bomb squad with a dc zerg around then the server starts shitting its pants. Which is pretty much every fight for an emp keep.

Nooooooooooooo don't reveal our tactics

iseko

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Saft wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

We (like 40-60 DC) had some fun fights yesterday evening at BRK on Chillrend for more than an hour against like 40-60 bananas... dunno what you call large scale PvP but for me this sounds pretty large scale.

Yes we bananas had a guest visit of phoenix with his bomber crew yesterday. It was noticable because your team lost keep after keep. Otherwise reds and yellows had none or very little bomb squads, so it became very obvious the other 13 days its lagbraxus team that cause lag. Lag follow their bomb squad around.

iseko wrote: »

Not a fan of abraxus' group but I dont think they are lagging the server. Let alone intentionally. The only thing that can be said about their bomb squad is that one way to counter it is by stacking up as well, using aoe and nuking them with ulti's. Since they do the same... That conflict is gonna lag out the server. Horrid way of playing the game but still the most effective I guess.

So, you don't think lagbraxus group lag server, but you think if we all else stack ae and go bomb group it will cause lag?

Something wrong there, all healing spring spamming, metoer bombing squads cause lags, nomatter what faction. Its just there just been lagbraxus around on chillrend most of time, so it became so obvious its his crew causing lag.

Sorry but thats the fact.

Yes. Glad you understand. Occasionally someone from exile will drop a meteor but usually they dont mass spam it.
A lot of their healing is not done by healing springs but by temp breath of life.
Their usual tactic seems to be: barrier + prox det + bats + impulse(lightning and fire) + steel tornado. Tanks rotate at the front with temp healers spamming BoL. Impulse is the only real skill that they spam as far as ive seen that can cause lagg. But Ive fought them a lot raid vs raid without any lag. I usually get lag fighting them on a flag inside a keep when other raids are around as well. Everyone stacked on the flag. So much healing springs that it becomes blinding. Meteors crashing down like its the new years eve. Impulse everywhere.

So yes. If 1 raid stacks up with a zerg around it fighting the exile bomb squad with a dc zerg around then the server starts shitting its pants. Which is pretty much every fight for an emp keep.

Nooooooooooooo don't reveal our tactics

Not... Quite sure if that was sarcastic. Its what I could make up from rewatching fights and looking at death recap... So if sarcastic: srr if its not correct :P

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

We also perform vodoo and pray to the Dark Lord of Lag himself to make sure we're victorious.

AbraXuSeXile

Beesting wrote: »

I have been playing eso everyday since early access but only pvp for 2 weeks now, on chillrend campain and i must say it feels very unbalanced having exile running bomb squads and just coming in and taking whatever they like whenever they choose too.

I mean it is supposed to be fun for hundreds of players to pvp, mostly noobs like me probably that are bored with dungeons ( 80 coa runs) and trials and like a new challenge.

But no, then abraxus showes up and smacks everyone up. I watched some of his vids and it must be great to play with 15 people moving like one, 15 times the dps against whatever you meet,

But it just ruins the fun for normal players , instead they are farmed for useless ap

Maybe pvp is just not for me, thx to exile...

Welcome to ESO PvP

I am sorry you feel this way. However there are more campaigns to play in. I have a question though, Was PvP more fun before we came to Chillrend? When we decided to come to Chillrend it was a yellow buff campaign with hardly any competition and it was completely plastered yellow, We scouted this campaign for a week before we decided to move to Chillrend.

You was also part of the crew during the first week of this season of Chillrend who tried to cap keeps till 4am and resumed as early as possible trying to recover your buffs.

MoneyOverEverything wrote: »

Beesting wrote: »

I have been playing eso everyday since early access but only pvp for 2 weeks now, on chillrend campain and i must say it feels very unbalanced having exile running bomb squads and just coming in and taking whatever they like whenever they choose too.

I mean it is supposed to be fun for hundreds of players to pvp, mostly noobs like me probably that are bored with dungeons ( 80 coa runs) and trials and like a new challenge.

But no, then abraxus showes up and smacks everyone up. I watched some of his vids and it must be great to play with 15 people moving like one, 15 times the dps against whatever you meet,

But it just ruins the fun for normal players , instead they are farmed for useless ap

Maybe pvp is just not for me, thx to exile...

lol, just lol

abrax -> beesting -> valkyrin skoria

i think abrax should get his own set-items because he is stornger than valkyrin skoria

heres my idea

Shoulders + Helmet

(1 set piece bonus) 995 magicka

(2 set piece bonus) You have a 60% chance to cast "Breath of Life" and "Blazing Shield" after a 5 Players-Killstreak while running in a group. This effect can only happen once in 20 seconds.

That would be awesome! ZoS make this happen!

Beesting wrote: »

Ok, never mind, i will just change my campain. Bye bye chillrend after tonight. As the nr 2 ad side and 25 th overall i might get some ok loot to remember my 2 weeks here. It was certainly interesting.

Bye, See you soon.

babanovac wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Beesting wrote: »

I have been playing eso everyday since early access but only pvp for 2 weeks now, on chillrend campain and i must say it feels very unbalanced having exile running bomb squads and just coming in and taking whatever they like whenever they choose too.

I mean it is supposed to be fun for hundreds of players to pvp, mostly noobs like me probably that are bored with dungeons ( 80 coa runs) and trials and like a new challenge.

But no, then abraxus showes up and smacks everyone up. I watched some of his vids and it must be great to play with 15 people moving like one, 15 times the dps against whatever you meet,

But it just ruins the fun for normal players , instead they are farmed for useless ap

Maybe pvp is just not for me, thx to exile...

If they are ruining it for anyone, it's for their own faction ^^ No one to fight, nothing to defend, everything has been done by Exile already :P

Actually they are ruining it for everyone, because they are killing the server. I'm guessing these people missed 2014 when large scale pvp was actually possible, and have just recently found out that playing bombing groups with your guild mates is fun.

Tough luck for everyone, when they log on, no one else can play.

Large scale PvP is dead since autumn. Stop bombing so the rest of us can enjoy a lag free game please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnqhlOZeYVs

Nearly a year ago, Large scale non lag PvP? Or are we talking about large scale cluster of people not really doing anything?

Saft wrote: »

Beesting wrote: »

Ok, never mind, i will just change my campain. Bye bye chillrend after tonight. As the nr 2 ad side and 25 th overall i might get some ok loot to remember my 2 weeks here. It was certainly interesting.

I feel excetly as you do, i play chillrend also. I am tired of bomb group player mentality and lagbraxus mentality where its a concept of lagging down server before rushing into a keep as tactic is worst of all out there.

I had a good laugh when we bananas casuals fought tomato casuals at a keep (was just breaced) and i said on Teamspeak to my friend, weird, its lag even without lagbraxus not here . Just matter of seconds later, a smurf bomb group show up outside of right side of keep, it explained the lag, because the "elite" bomb squad with lagbraxus friends was rolling into keep, spamming meteors and healing spring.


Its just this "elite" players ruin server stability and gameplay for most others are on all campaigns on all factions almost. Lagbraxus is not unique, until zenimax give us a true counter (weak magica detonation was their attemt) there will continue to be lag.

Please elborate how we are 'lagging the server' we run in an organised group of average 12 players who usually do not PvP near allies unless we must, Usually we are on our own away from allies at every chance we get as 'the early birds get the worm'

We recently had a guild event called 'who needs us the most' so if you want to see the numbers we run with; http://s287.photobucket.com/user/Caioexile187/media/Screenshot_20150422_162013_zpspumsmhbu.png.html and keep clicking right or view our forum public section for more screenies. Lagsquad? I think not. Maybe you should focus your attention to the 24 man raids put together by AD or the 2 EP 24 man trains that run together.

Saft wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

We (like 40-60 DC) had some fun fights yesterday evening at BRK on Chillrend for more than an hour against like 40-60 bananas... dunno what you call large scale PvP but for me this sounds pretty large scale.

Yes we bananas had a guest visit of phoenix with his bomber crew yesterday. It was noticable because your team lost keep after keep. Otherwise reds and yellows had none or very little bomb squads, so it became very obvious the other 13 days its lagbraxus team that cause lag. Lag follow their bomb squad around.

iseko wrote: »

Not a fan of abraxus' group but I dont think they are lagging the server. Let alone intentionally. The only thing that can be said about their bomb squad is that one way to counter it is by stacking up as well, using aoe and nuking them with ulti's. Since they do the same... That conflict is gonna lag out the server. Horrid way of playing the game but still the most effective I guess.

So, you don't think lagbraxus group lag server, but you think if we all else stack ae and go bomb group it will cause lag?

Something wrong there, all healing spring spamming, metoer bombing squads cause lags, nomatter what faction. Its just there just been lagbraxus around on chillrend most of time, so it became so obvious its his crew causing lag.

Sorry but thats the fact.

I know every single ultimate each of my team use because i set them up, Only one person is using meteor in my raid and he has a special job to do, To run meteors in a raid is incredibly stupid, And i'm still at loss at why people use it.

Saft wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

We (like 40-60 DC) had some fun fights yesterday evening at BRK on Chillrend for more than an hour against like 40-60 bananas... dunno what you call large scale PvP but for me this sounds pretty large scale.

Yes we bananas had a guest visit of phoenix with his bomber crew yesterday. It was noticable because your team lost keep after keep. Otherwise reds and yellows had none or very little bomb squads, so it became very obvious the other 13 days its lagbraxus team that cause lag. Lag follow their bomb squad around.

iseko wrote: »

Not a fan of abraxus' group but I dont think they are lagging the server. Let alone intentionally. The only thing that can be said about their bomb squad is that one way to counter it is by stacking up as well, using aoe and nuking them with ulti's. Since they do the same... That conflict is gonna lag out the server. Horrid way of playing the game but still the most effective I guess.

So, you don't think lagbraxus group lag server, but you think if we all else stack ae and go bomb group it will cause lag?

Something wrong there, all healing spring spamming, metoer bombing squads cause lags, nomatter what faction. Its just there just been lagbraxus around on chillrend most of time, so it became so obvious its his crew causing lag.

Sorry but thats the fact.

We lost a lot of keeps yesterday due to lag, If enemy has more numbers than us they can flip a flag with simply no PvP.
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Anyway, We have a really good group of shemales who are very good friends, we communicate outside the game with each other with a great bond. The eXile community don't get enough credit for the actions they perform, Usually people blaming lag or numbers for there own downfall, Maybe look at yourselves and aim to be better to kill us rather than 'whaaa whaaa whaaa' It's many times we have to change campaign due to destroying a buff campaign and all the enemies throw their toys out the pram instead of knuckling down and killing us. It looks like yet again we may have to move.

WHO'S NEXT?

iseko

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Please elborate how we are 'lagging the server' we run in an organised group of average 12 players who usually do not PvP near allies unless we must, Usually we are on our own away from allies at every chance we get as 'the early birds get the worm'

We recently had a guild event called 'who needs us the most' so if you want to see the numbers we run with; http://s287.photobucket.com/user/Caioexile187/media/Screenshot_20150422_162013_zpspumsmhbu.png.html and keep clicking right or view our forum public section for more screenies. Lagsquad? I think not. Maybe you should focus your attention to the 24 man raids put together by AD or the 2 EP 24 man trains that run together.

WHO'S NEXT?

Thats DG and DE. We work togheter but dont always run togheter. DE is trying to put up 1 raid max 2. Weve refrained from using pugs. Whenever we (DE) fight you alone there is no lagg. Well mostly not. Don't blame us if some pug groups follow us to keeps we light up man.

Edit: im on phone andnit ws bit ***

AbraXuSeXile

iseko wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Beesting wrote: »

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Please elborate how we are 'lagging the server' we run in an organised group of average 12 players who usually do not PvP near allies unless we must, Usually we are on our own away from allies at every chance we get as 'the early birds get the worm'

We recently had a guild event called 'who needs us the most' so if you want to see the numbers we run with; http://s287.photobucket.com/user/Caioexile187/media/Screenshot_20150422_162013_zpspumsmhbu.png.html and keep clicking right or view our forum public section for more screenies. Lagsquad? I think not. Maybe you should focus your attention to the 24 man raids put together by AD or the 2 EP 24 man trains that run together.

WHO'S NEXT?

Thats DG and DE. We work togheter but dont always run togheter. DE is trying to put up 1 raid max 2. Weve refrained from using pugs. Whenever we (DE) fight you alone there is no lagg. Well mostly not. Don't blame us if some pug groups follow us to keeps we light up man.

Edit: im on phone andnit ws bit ***

I'm just saying how lame it is to blame a 12 man group for lag when there's 24 man raids knocking about at the same time.

Saft

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Please elborate how we are 'lagging the server' we run in an organised group of average 12 players who usually do not PvP near allies unless we must, Usually we are on our own away from allies at every chance we get as 'the early birds get the worm'

Still, why, apart from when phoenix team came yesterday (fighting your faction), the only times during last 14 days the lag only for me came when your team was around. I did not encounter 1 single lagfest with the EP during mass battles.

Soo, there is nothing you intentionally or unintentionally do, its just bad luck/coincidence that ping goes through roof almost always the same time as your team rush into a breached keep?

On a sidenote, you seem to be a nice guy, but really its something you or the guilds that follow your team does that lag down chillrend. If you or those guilds running with you could perhaps find out what cause it, and try use other tactics to avoid a lag free pvp for all of us, it would be greatly apresiated.

Legedric

It is up to ZOS to find out the cause for the lags not the players/guilds using their poorly coded piece of software.

iseko

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

I'm just saying how lame it is to blame a 12 man group for lag when there's 24 man raids knocking about at the same time.

Saft wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Please elborate how we are 'lagging the server' we run in an organised group of average 12 players who usually do not PvP near allies unless we must, Usually we are on our own away from allies at every chance we get as 'the early birds get the worm'

Still, why, apart from when phoenix team came yesterday (fighting your faction), the only times during last 14 days the lag only for me came when your team was around. I did not encounter 1 single lagfest with the EP during mass battles.

Soo, there is nothing you intentionally or unintentionally do, its just bad luck/coincidence that ping goes through roof almost always the same time as your team rush into a breached keep?

On a sidenote, you seem to be a nice guy, but really its something you or the guilds that follow your team does that lag down chillrend. If you or those guilds running with you could perhaps find out what cause it, and try use other tactics to avoid a lag free pvp for all of us, it would be greatly apresiated.

My best guess? Like I said: exile does not use meteors except for a few (abraxus says one dude, from what I've seen that sounds like it could be true). But they do impulse spam a lot and are very stacked togheter. If they run into a keep with 30+ defenders and already 20-30 DC (or AD/EP, whoever was originally attacking) then the combo of healing springs (not exile), meteors (not exile) tight group formation impulse spamming (yes exile) and the inevitable very closely grouped up *** that is large scale pvp (everyone togheter), makes the server *** its pants.

Hell, when we kill the exile bomb squad we usually have to nuke em hard. I.E: drop everything you have right on top of em. Which is a valid way of countering the bomb squad. But when you do it with a lot of other people around... he he he Lag in 3-2-1... So are we to blame for dropping everything we have? Or is exile to blame for forcing us to do it (as a counter to their tactic). I'd say *** servers mate.

Saft

Legedric wrote: »

It is up to ZOS to find out the cause for the lags not the players/guilds using their poorly coded piece of software.

Or stop running in lagsquads and ruin pvp for all else.