1.6.4 Patch Notes?

Cody · February 2015

Dracane wrote: »

(Just to check my english skills: In the english announcement for 1.6.4, it says ' During the maintenance, we will be applying patch 1.6.4 and performing A European character copy. Shouldn't it be : During the maintenance, we will be applying patch 1.6.4 and performing AN European character copy. )

I think its A.

"An European" just does not come off the tongue right:/

olsborg · February 2015

Patch notes?

Beleron · February 2015

So the pve lacks to be rewarding, and the pvp is not being expanded. Instead where increasing the scaling of stats 10x, and fixing new bugs that where created by doing so....... champion system that rewards us for grinding, justice system with omnipotent guards that make molag bal look like a fly...... The ability changes I like, the rest, no.

WILL WE SEE IF THEY CAN TURN THIS AROUND?

daemonios · February 2015

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Gyudan wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

(Just to check my english skills: In the english announcement for 1.6.4, it says ' During the maintenance, we will be applying patch 1.6.4 and performing A European character copy. Shouldn't it be : During the maintenance, we will be applying patch 1.6.4 and performing AN European character copy. )

English isn't my first language but I'm fairly certain that it's "A European ...".
According to random sources on the Internet it's because the beginning of the word European sounds like Y.

Ah because I thought, you always write 'AN', when a word starts with A,E,I,O,U .

Another example: it's AN MMORPG although the word starts with an M (but it's spoken like eM). Same goes with "hour".

What if I like to say "memorpegue" instead of "em-em-oh-ar-pee-gee"? That would make it "a MMORPG", right?

danno816_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

danno816_ESO wrote: »

While we are on topic (lol) what determines if a word in French (or other languages that have masculine and feminine words) is masculine or feminine?

Who or what decides that?

You have to learn this . That was determined, as language grew I guess.

What happens when a new word come to light. Like when "computer" was invented who or what makes the choice of "la ordinateur" or "le ordinateur"?

Some words are randoms, most are determined by their ending. "-eur" when denoting the agent of some action is typically a male ending: "chasseur" (hunter, feminine "chasseuse"), "chanteur" (singer, feminine "chanteuse"). But of course nothing is ever simple, so if instead of agency the word in -eur is an abstract name, it's typically feminine: "peur", "chaleur", etc.

Aren't latin languages fun, y'all english-speaking slackers?

Beleron · February 2015

WAIT UP... ZOS be honest. Tell us. Is the team thats making the patch notes, monitoring forums, ect. GETTING THE GOD DAMN INFO LAST SECOND?

ARE YOU giving them the info last minute and making them sweat out a bloody post ?
ARE YOU being unprofessional with stuff?
OR are THEY just slow? I mean honestly. How hard is it to just post the patch notes. You can close the discussion and post the new notes.

All these people, all these 35 POSTS, could be posts giving feed back to early patch notes to something that was missed.
You have 1 person proof read your work, he finds 1 mistake. By the time 100 proof read it.... well, you get the picture.

Maybe its the bosses, maybe its not. It's dumb, and I am done my rant.

Randactyl · February 2015

Beleron wrote: »

WAIT UP... ZOS be honest. Tell us. Is the team thats making the patch notes, monitoring forums, ect. GETTING THE GOD DAMN INFO LAST SECOND?

ARE YOU giving them the info last minute and making them sweat out a bloody post ?
ARE YOU being unprofessional with stuff?
OR are THEY just slow? I mean honestly. How hard is it to just post the patch notes. You can close the discussion and post the new notes.

All these people, all these 35 POSTS, could be posts giving feed back to early patch notes to something that was missed.
You have 1 person proof read your work, he finds 1 mistake. By the time 100 proof read it.... well, you get the picture.

Maybe its the bosses, maybe its not. It's dumb, and I am done my rant.

Dude... Who kicked over your sandcastle? I don't see what's wrong with waiting until everything is finalized to post the notes. Then there is a significantly less chance for there to be any amendments to them that people might miss. There's also the entire maintenance window which is easily filled with patch note discussion.

I know that in this new era of the internet we want everything right now, but chill out. Take a breath

Dracane · February 2015

Beleron wrote: »

WAIT UP... ZOS be honest. Tell us. Is the team thats making the patch notes, monitoring forums, ect. GETTING THE GOD DAMN INFO LAST SECOND?

ARE YOU giving them the info last minute and making them sweat out a bloody post ?
ARE YOU being unprofessional with stuff?
OR are THEY just slow? I mean honestly. How hard is it to just post the patch notes. You can close the discussion and post the new notes.

All these people, all these 35 POSTS, could be posts giving feed back to early patch notes to something that was missed.
You have 1 person proof read your work, he finds 1 mistake. By the time 100 proof read it.... well, you get the picture.

Maybe its the bosses, maybe its not. It's dumb, and I am done my rant.

Deceny please -.- this thread was reasonable and civilized so far. And we would like to keep it that way.
We all are frustrated, that our suggestions never make it into the patchnotes and for sure not in the next ones(which could be the last one until it goes online and after that, we don't have to expect anything anymore). But it doesn't help, to get offensive.

Ryuho · February 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll post the patch notes for 1.6.4 tomorrow afternoon.

@ZOS_GinaBruno i realy hope u will turn off max CP in 1.6.4, u can't test pvp with 3.6k CP allocated..

Grileenor · February 2015

@ZOS_GinaBruno Whatever the time might be, update 6 will be released. Please take your time and test it until it is ready to be released. A good update 6 in march is worth much more than a halfbaked 1.6.4 in february.

Gandogal · February 2015

What about fixing some sets?

(no im not gettin tired of saying this):

Burning spellweave: spell crit instead of weapon crit and higher spell damage on 5-set bonus
soulshine: higher spell damage on 5-set bonus
dstruction mastery: adding feet and jewelry

Thanks you

BlackEar · February 2015

Looking forward to those patch notes

The glaring PVP issues are important to fix, though.

Grao · February 2015

Kuro1n wrote: »

Grao wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll post the patch notes for 1.6.4 tomorrow afternoon.

@ZOS_GinaBruno, when is NA getting a chance to test out this patch? Or will EU get to test two patches on a roll?

We didn't have a full week yet so don't complain. The patch is supposed to hit live next week anyway.

That is what I am asking. Will the 1.6 hit Live next week still? Or is Zenimax delaying it, and if that is the case, when will NA get a chance of testing the new patch?

Seraphyel · February 2015

daemonios wrote: »

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Gyudan wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

(Just to check my english skills: In the english announcement for 1.6.4, it says ' During the maintenance, we will be applying patch 1.6.4 and performing A European character copy. Shouldn't it be : During the maintenance, we will be applying patch 1.6.4 and performing AN European character copy. )

English isn't my first language but I'm fairly certain that it's "A European ...".
According to random sources on the Internet it's because the beginning of the word European sounds like Y.

Ah because I thought, you always write 'AN', when a word starts with A,E,I,O,U .

Another example: it's AN MMORPG although the word starts with an M (but it's spoken like eM). Same goes with "hour".

What if I like to say "memorpegue" instead of "em-em-oh-ar-pee-gee"? That would make it "a MMORPG", right?

You can't change the pronunciation.

It's always an MMORPG like it's always an hour. Just because you like to say H-our doesn't make it right nor "a H-our".

Kuro1n · February 2015

Grao wrote: »

Kuro1n wrote: »

Grao wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll post the patch notes for 1.6.4 tomorrow afternoon.

@ZOS_GinaBruno, when is NA getting a chance to test out this patch? Or will EU get to test two patches on a roll?

We didn't have a full week yet so don't complain. The patch is supposed to hit live next week anyway.

That is what I am asking. Will the 1.6 hit Live next week still? Or is Zenimax delaying it, and if that is the case, when will NA get a chance of testing the new patch?

Well even if EU got one more week of testing it wouldn't be that unfair considering NA was the first that got to try 1.6 AND the servers are located in NA.

Chufu · February 2015

Still waiting

Dracane · February 2015

Chufu wrote: »

Still waiting

I wouldn't get too exited. They've already said, this time it's going to be very tiny.
Maybe some bug fixes

Seraphyel · February 2015

Dracane wrote: »

Chufu wrote: »

Still waiting

I wouldn't get too exited. They've already said, this time it's going to be very tiny.
Maybe some bug fixes

The patch is going to be released most likely next week. They can't change much. Some number tweaks, that's it.

Dracane · February 2015

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Chufu wrote: »

Still waiting

I wouldn't get too exited. They've already said, this time it's going to be very tiny.
Maybe some bug fixes

The patch is going to be released most likely next week. They can't change much. Some number tweaks, that's it.

No I think, 1.6.4 is going to be released today.

ArconSeptim · February 2015

Expect the patch notes in 2 or 3 hours

If we lucky maybe less :P

Seraphyel · February 2015

Dracane wrote: »

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Chufu wrote: »

Still waiting

I wouldn't get too exited. They've already said, this time it's going to be very tiny.
Maybe some bug fixes

The patch is going to be released most likely next week. They can't change much. Some number tweaks, that's it.

No I think, 1.6.4 is going to be released today.

The live patch.

Roselle · February 2015

Dracane wrote: »

(Just to check my english skills: In the english announcement for 1.6.4, it says ' During the maintenance, we will be applying patch 1.6.4 and performing A European character copy. Shouldn't it be : During the maintenance, we will be applying patch 1.6.4 and performing AN European character copy. )

Already clarified, but a better link for you...

ecenglish.com/learnenglish/when-use-a

Grao · February 2015

Kuro1n wrote: »

Grao wrote: »

Kuro1n wrote: »

Grao wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll post the patch notes for 1.6.4 tomorrow afternoon.

@ZOS_GinaBruno, when is NA getting a chance to test out this patch? Or will EU get to test two patches on a roll?

We didn't have a full week yet so don't complain. The patch is supposed to hit live next week anyway.

That is what I am asking. Will the 1.6 hit Live next week still? Or is Zenimax delaying it, and if that is the case, when will NA get a chance of testing the new patch?

Well even if EU got one more week of testing it wouldn't be that unfair considering NA was the first that got to try 1.6 AND the servers are located in NA.

How is it NA's fault that the servers are located in NA? If Zenimax was fair and smart about this they'd transfer characters from people that would actually use them, but as they are not willing to go through the extra labor, we are stuck with bouncing between NA and EU. Next week (Tuesday) is NA's time on the PTS, I am just inquiring if that will be maintained.

Also, yes, it would be unfair if EU got to test for another whole week, specially since NA wasn't really allowed to run ful tests on their last week in the PTS, since Zenimax slipped up and only allowed us to build gear up to vr9, not to mention the Two Handed debacle that made both PvE and PvP number tests essentially impossible.