Last Stand passive

Mantic0r3

Why is such an overall important passive in a stamina tree? This makes it really inbalanced to magicka users.

I believe this should instead be in the warrior constelaation maybe steed or lady where everyone can feasibly put points in.

Mantic0r3

seriously? nobody any opinion on this topic?

for all who dont remember it increases ulti gain, but due to its positioning its only available for stamina users for a long long time

asteldian

Given you must split points evenly in the 3 constellations, stamina users do not get it any faster. Not sure which passives are specifically in that area but most are evenly split magicka and stam reduction or regen so no issue there - if anything stamina users are short changed as they have to put points in magicka related passives which are worthless, at least casters can use stamina for dodge block and break free

Mantic0r3

Well it seems people dont even know what I'm talking about and your assumptions are just wrong so let me state the obvious.

Last stand is the 120 point passive in the mage-ritual.
The 4 Skills in there are
1. crit dmg of physical attacks
2. physical penetration
3. physical dmg modifier
4. increase dmg with poison,desease,magic (which doesnt apply on elemental spells)

So there is NOTHING! for magicka users, also magicka users want to invest points into mage-apprentice since its their main constellation.
Stamina users can more or less only skill into ritual, therefor stamina users will have this passive more than twice as fast!

johnyeh87

Mantic0r3 wrote: »

Well it seems people dont even know what I'm talking about and your assumptions are just wrong so let me state the obvious.

Last stand is the 120 point passive in the mage-ritual.
The 4 Skills in there are
1. crit dmg of physical attacks
2. physical penetration
3. physical dmg modifier
4. increase dmg with poison,desease,magic (which doesnt apply on elemental spells)

So there is NOTHING! for magicka users, also magicka users want to invest points into mage-apprentice since its their main constellation.
Stamina users can more or less only skill into ritual, therefor stamina users will have this passive more than twice as fast!

Actually magic damage works well with Templars/NBs magicka users.

Sharee

Crystal fragments is magic. Daedric mines is magic. Etc. etc.

Mantic0r3

yes there are a few magicka skills which scale with magic dmg, never wrote something different though ..

Either way 1 feat that applies only to a select few abilites ist not a viable option to get a 120 point passive.

So put something that everyone needs into a constellation everyone can spec into and give this stamina tree something for stamina users.

johnyeh87

Mantic0r3 wrote: »

yes there are a few magicka skills which scale with magic dmg, never wrote something different though ..

Either way 1 feat that applies only to a select few abilites ist not a viable option to get a 120 point passive.

So put something that everyone needs into a constellation everyone can spec into and give this stamina tree something for stamina users.

Yeah but the whole point of different trees is so not everyone SHOULD use the same one. There are different play styles, different abilities that deal different types of damage. So if your build cannot use 1 tree line, then so what. I have a few builds for one character and there are 2 tree lines I do not touch at all. And I will be swapping from stamina to magicka builds.

Mantic0r3

for most part i totally agree but on the current ulti system I can not with this buff beeing so tailored towards stamina dps (even tanks are a bit behind on priority)

just fyi I have magicka&stamina dps aswell as tanks, its not like i want the change because i play magicka only or something like that..