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[BUG] Damage Shields PREVENTING (some) CC from WORKING!

Sypher
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Damage Shields are preventing certain CC abilities from working. The two CC abilities shown in this video are Defensive Posture and Destructive Touch. I'm not sure if there are any other CC's that are negated by shields.

(This has been in game since launch, but since they're trying to fix a lot of bugs before 1.6 goes live you might as well get this done too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPSbnSbqwqc&feature=youtu.be
Edited by Sypher on February 18, 2015 4:49AM
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  • Lionxoft
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    Damage shields break a lot of mechanics. The heavy armor passive constitution is also affected by your own shield.
  • Sypher
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    Lionxoft wrote: »
    Damage shields break a lot of mechanics. The heavy armor passive constitution is also affected by your own shield.

    This too..
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  • Panda244
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    Bump cause needs fixing, I've personally never had a problem with damage shields just because I've been lucky enough not to run into someone who spams them to stay alive and doesn't fight back, if I ever did run into someone like that I'd just ignore him and move on... But yeah.

    If they want to fix damage shield stacking they can just make disease effect the efficiency of the shield. Problem solved.
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  • Cody
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    damage shields should NEVER take over the role of heavy armor immovable, or just the role of heavy armor in particular.

    for the peeps that want to know why i make such a big deal about damage shields; sypher has explained one of the reasons.

    It allows someone in the lightest armor to basically be a tank due to flawed and broken mechanics, and, since these damage shields can be stacked/spammed, it has the potential to take all the fun out of combat and can make combat frustrating and very imbalanced. Just try to fight someone that spams never ending damage shields with all this flawed and broken crap tacked on.... just go ahead and give it a go, see what I and many others have been complaining about.

    ZOS, PLEASE fix all of the damage shield issues before 1.6 goes live.
    Edited by Cody on February 18, 2015 6:39AM
  • Cody
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Bump cause needs fixing, I've personally never had a problem with damage shields just because I've been lucky enough not to run into someone who spams them to stay alive and doesn't fight back, if I ever did run into someone like that I'd just ignore him and move on... But yeah.

    If they want to fix damage shield stacking they can just make disease effect the efficiency of the shield. Problem solved.

    boom.

    there you go ZOS; a good suggestion right here
  • Panda244
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    Cody wrote: »
    damage shields should NEVER take over the role of heavy armor immovable, or just the role of heavy armor in particular.

    for the peeps that want to know why i make such a big deal about damage shields; sypher has explained one of the reasons.

    It allows someone in the lightest armor to basically be a tank due to flawed and broken mechanics, and, since these damage shields can be stacked/spammed, it has the potential to take all the fun out of combat and can make combat frustrating and very imbalanced. Just try to fight someone that spams never ending damage shields with all this flawed and broken crap tacked on.... just go ahead and give it a go, see what I and many others have been complaining about.

    ZOS, PLEASE fix all of the damage shield issues before 1.6 goes live.

    I have no problem with people using them as defense to protect themselves from the gimping of light armor in 1.6, but in no way should they protect you from CC or stuns, they're damage shields, not CC shields. Need to get more bumpy bumps so ZOS sees this thread.
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  • Sypher
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    We need more attention on this. Shields should not prevent cc from working.
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  • Derra
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    :(

    So much is bugged. I don´t know how they can think they will get a working 1.6 to live in the next three weeks.
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  • kkampaseb17_ESO
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    Derra wrote: »
    :(

    So much is bugged. I don´t know how they can think they will get a working 1.6 to live in the next three weeks.

    What three weeks? I believe they are planning to release it next Friday.
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    Derra wrote: »
    :(

    So much is bugged. I don´t know how they can think they will get a working 1.6 to live in the next three weeks.

    What three weeks? I believe they are planning to release it next Friday.

    Sry. Three weeks is about the time they have until the re-release of tamriel unchained. Nobody will come back to a game that is more broken than when they left it :joy:

    That they don´t care about the current playerbase when a bugged patch hits live is pretty clear by now...
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  • Ryuho
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    Derra wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    :(

    So much is bugged. I don´t know how they can think they will get a working 1.6 to live in the next three weeks.

    What three weeks? I believe they are planning to release it next Friday.

    Sry. Three weeks is about the time they have until the re-release of tamriel unchained. Nobody will come back to a game that is more broken than when they left it :joy:

    That they don´t care about the current playerbase when a bugged patch hits live is pretty clear by now...

    Soo true :(
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  • kkampaseb17_ESO
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    Derra wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    :(

    So much is bugged. I don´t know how they can think they will get a working 1.6 to live in the next three weeks.

    What three weeks? I believe they are planning to release it next Friday.

    Sry. Three weeks is about the time they have until the re-release of tamriel unchained. Nobody will come back to a game that is more broken than when they left it :joy:

    That they don´t care about the current playerbase when a bugged patch hits live is pretty clear by now...

    No I perfectly understood what you were referring to :p But I think they are planning for an even earlier release of this patch....I really hope they have some kind of "fix all bugs" ace under their sleeves atm. There are plenty of gamebreaking bugs going about atm....
  • Kuro1n
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    Wow, this needs some attention for sure!

    Honestly though, I am scared they will release the patch without having fixed the über damage of 2H weapons.
  • Sypher
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can we get a response on this please :)
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  • TheLaw
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    I've had this happen to me on multiple occasions. SO many issues with 1.6.
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  • Cody
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    Derra wrote: »
    :(

    So much is bugged. I don´t know how they can think they will get a working 1.6 to live in the next three weeks.

    What three weeks? I believe they are planning to release it next Friday.

    what??????? next friday??

    no no no ZOS!!!!!!! this WILL FAIL if it goes live like it is. GET 1.6 FIXED BEFORE PUTTING IT LIVE.
  • Gargragrond
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    Let's just enjoy our last week. It will probably take several months until the game is playable again.
  • Xeniph
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    I can confirm this is happening.

    Hardened Ward/Healing Ward/and Harness Magicka were preventing most sneak attack stuns. It also is preventing some Wrecking Blow knockbacks (even out of stealth), as well as shield charge stuns.

    However, not all the time, it's really inconsistent. I tested Brawler/Shielded Assault and neither of these abilities would produce these results. (Ie...prevent CC)

    So the issue is with one of these abilities, or a combination of the 3.

    More testing needs to be done.


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  • timidobserver
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    I think you should have to collapse/destroy the shield before CC would work. If my shield completely negates the damage of your destructive touch by causing it not to reach me, then what exactly is CCing me.
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  • LunaRae
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    Good post Sypher, I'm hating damage shields right now - even more so in 1.6. Doubt they'll address this in a timely manner, but here's hoping.
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  • Sypher
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    I think you should have to collapse/destroy the shield before CC would work. If my shield completely negates the damage of your destructive touch by causing it not to reach me, then what exactly is CCing me.


    That's not consistent with other knockdown. (Crystal fragments, spear, stone fist)?

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  • indigoblades
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    I keep hardened ward up continously in pvp/pve and i get cc'd all the time in both. Maybe those specifics skills arent working right but i know for a fact shields dont block CC, or how would get cc.

    Also while testing my v1.6 sorc in spell car, which is even more shield dependant than ever.... every fight they got cc stunned at least once with near full shields.
    Edited by indigoblades on February 20, 2015 2:32AM
  • Xeniph
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    I keep hardened ward up continously in pvp/pve and i get cc'd all the time in both. Maybe those specifics skills arent working right but i know for a fact shields dont block CC, or how would get cc.

    Also while testing my v1.6 sorc in spell car, which is even more shield dependant than ever.... every fight they got cc stunned at least once with near full shields.

    All testing I did was in pvp.

    Also, you can clearly see it's not working as intended, if you would have watched the OP's Video.

    I merely wanted to see for myself and while I did experience what he did, In my testing I found so much more.

    Testing I did was done February 19 on the PTS, build 1.6.3

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    Doing more tests with different CCs today.
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