AD tb work together? think not.

Slaxis

This is my first post on the forums and most likely last. I don't understand a few on Thorn. Between AD guilds just doing what's best for there own and solos not joining up in groups running around doing who knows what. We wonder y we lose? Why ep is winning while Dc and Ad come on night after night only to dethrone grab some scrolls and rinse and repeat the next day.

Last night was pretty bad I must say. It seems like we all come together only to be side tracked by a bunch of chiefs running the servers splitting up the momentum we have only to not succeed and again start at the same spot. If we don't work together we wont win, I mean its pretty simple.

On to some of the guilds. I'm not going to directly call out your guilds but im sure some know exactly who I'm talking about. Seems like more and more you are just turning into a poison on the server. Between doing what you want to do and not helping its really setting back Ad imo. If guilds cant unite and work as one we will be in same spot campaign after campaign.

To the people who think running around solo is helping maybe you should rethink your strategy. There are plenty of guilds you could try to join, learn there ways and be more of a presence in thorn. My guild is always recruiting and im sure others are also. I see a lot groups forming and that's awesome but working within a guild will always be the better choice.

I'm not trying to lecture anyone and sorry if it seems that way. I purely want to ****ing win. Plain and simple no sugar coating it. Unfortunately I don see this happening unless we unite and follow 1 command. I could care less who that shot caller is or if its passed around each night between guilds. 1 chief and the rest ****ing Indians. When this happens maybe Ad will once again stand alone at the end where we belong...Winners.

Pancake-Tragedy

I feel that way on DC as well. Too many people want to be the "lone wolf" or think that they can spread out their small groups to accomplish big things. This usually leads to those groups, and really the rest of the faction, being out-manned since EP concentrates their players when making pushes.

Shortly after a bunch of failed attempts, players vent their frustration in /zone and whatever cohesiveness was left is now gone.

**On an off topic discussion: The cross-faction shenanigans last night was freakin hilarious. Operation **** EP was in full effect and went smoothly.

So smooth that a few people on the DC side are trying to get our players to dye their armors green for a week or two in remembrance of last night.

The illuminAD-DC (or something?) is real.

Roechacca

I'm an idiot . Sorry

Meilinka

It's Meilinka.
What happened after I logged off last night? (I think I logged shortly after our guild started to run.)
I had been helping a friend pull together a group from /z but was getting ready for bed at the time cuz timezone. Hah.

Bacon.

Roechacca

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

The illuminAD-DC (or something?) is real.

You can't prove this ...

Slaxis

roechacca don't troll on here if you have something useful to say then ok if not move it along

Roechacca

Slaxis wrote: »

roechacca don't troll on here if you have something useful to say then ok if not move it along

Your waisting your time . There I said it . It's not a joke either . You are with out a doubt 100% waisting your time trying to organize DC by pointing out its flaws . If you think there's a possibility you might not be waisting your time , re read what you wrote , then re read this post . Repeat as many times as necessary . Individual results may vary . Void where prohibited by law .

Slaxis

Well if it was dc im talking about I would understand but if you read the topic is says AD

Roechacca

Slaxis wrote: »

Well if it was dc im talking about I would understand but if you read the topic is says AD

You seem to have me at a disadvantage Sir . I would blame this on a lack of coffee this morning or the terrible pizza I ate at the party last night but alas ... , I'm just an idiot . I accept full responsibility an will go outside and beat myself with the ceremonial hose now .

Apologies

Meilinka

Pls arrive at the Fare barn in TB tonight for a proper flogging presented by Mei the fat Khajiit.

Roechacca

horseearthartb16_ESO wrote: »

Pls arrive at the Fare barn in TB tonight for a proper flogging presented by Mei the fat Khajiit.

I have a date tonight . I'll start the long walk of shame in a hour ...

Meilinka

roechacca wrote: »

horseearthartb16_ESO wrote: »

Pls arrive at the Fare barn in TB tonight for a proper flogging presented by Mei the fat Khajiit.

I have a date tonight . I'll start the long walk of shame in a hour ...

I'll be home in 2 hours, no rush. Lmbo!

AhPook_Is_Here

Slaxis,

It's good to see some AD actually try to win, focusing on point generating objectives. Your group has come a long way in getting better and working together and you seem to do a good job leading them from what I have seen.

I think if you keep focused you will see better results over time. One of AD's bigger problems is clearly working together, and even if you can't unify where your whole faction is taking direction from one bus driver you should be able to find ways to cooperate so that each group is doing something useful for the big picture.

Best of luck, and have fun regardless of the other stuff. One person can only do so much in a large co-op game.

Columba

Side note. I loved operation *** EP last night. I danced with my AD brethren while we focused on the EP lagspam clowncar. We must do this more often to rid this game of that pestilence.

Cody

this was a huge problem in wabbajack, a small problem in haderus, and is a huge problem in Black Water blade. there is always some idiot who thinks they know what is best and tries to do things their way, instead of working with their team.

You cant do anything about it but hope those fools get their heads out of their butts and start playing the game. calling them out only makes them think you are jealous or some other form of stupidity. their egos get in the way of things.

Ignore those idiots and try to put together a real group. Let them have their ego battles all they want.

Cody

now about the solo thing..... solo players can contribute to the game. Just because they are not in a group does not mean they cant help, and just because they are not in one of these PvP guilds does not mean they are bad. Heck I play solo at least half of the time and I do well for the team. All I have to do is just follow the huge blob of people(plus most of the time when I type "LFG" or ask for a group, no one invites me; so what can I and others like me really do?)

Pancake-Tragedy

Yeah, I don't really mean all solo players, because there are plenty of good solo players that do help the overall effort. I enjoy playing solo a lot myself.

The ones I mean are those solo players that get the idea to "draw aggro" from the enemy faction that you are trying to avoid dealing with at that moment. The small group of solo players that go on a tangent when being asked/told to stay away from said enemy faction for a little while, so that it is possible to regain ground with a focused force.

Those are the "lone wolves" that I was talking about.

AnteCoyote

Slaxis wrote: »

Why ep is winning while Dc and Ad come on night after night only to dethrone grab some scrolls and rinse and repeat the next day.

Right there. When our guilds are on, we are taking everything back, dethroning, sometimes taking their scrolls. When they aren't on, we lose everything. Yet you blame them? As unorganized as we are, we still do better then EP when it matters while keeping DC off our stuff. It's not our fault that their population is much higher for most of the day.

As for the Chiefs and indigenous peoples thing, yeah. I do agree. Who do you expect to be the hoed though? The last politician we had that everyone loved to listen to went to EP and, surprise, everyone there listens to him. That's why they have such huge groups. Us, on the other hand, nobody listens. I wouldn't call myself overly polite (no time for that during a fight), but when there is no order I try to call out targets and get ungrouped players focused. It simply doesn't work. We seiged down one of the front walls of BRK, which is a bad spot. Fine. We can still get in. I run in and ambush over to the oil to harass them and give people a window to push. I tell them to push when I do. They don't. 20 dudes are outside in stealth with bows for some reason.

Yell at toxic guilds all you want. Even if we were nice it wouldn't matter. We can't control the masses. During a certain scroll run a lot of people chewed out the runner for his decisions. I don't remember anyone using any strong language. We were simply stating our frustration. I understand it must have been frustrating for the runner too, but when a large organized AD guild wipes a large organized DC guild/pug Zerg, then you run in to steal the dropped scroll, then you sit around with it nowhere near AD spawns, then you run past like 3 DC spawns, then die with it, people will be upset. There were several bad decisions made there and you didn't need to rush in and steal it in the first place. Call us toxic for getting upset about that. Whatever. It wasn't a good decision.

Lhorion

I love this posts...... EU or NA?
I hate this egocentrism.

Slaxis

NA Thorn

Columba

Ep wins only because they outnumber their combined enemies and they aoe spam lag to give their zerg even more advantages. I love fighting AD - often similar numbers vs the spamlag clowncar EP without the lag. It's nice that AD hates EP nearly as much as I do. I will gladly help AD anytime. just say the word. Winning isn't the objective. Denying ep what they want IS.

Lhorion

Thx

Hughezy

You guys have made a terrible mistake, becoming allies with those AD heathens only ensures your demise at the hands of the purple alliance. EP is not the faction to worry about, it's AD we need to dominate to the ends of the earth.

JDar

I guess you could say AD is down by Technical Knock Out

Cinnamon_Spider

Hughezy wrote: »

You guys have made a terrible mistake, becoming allies with those AD heathens only ensures your demise at the hands of the purple alliance. EP is not the faction to worry about, it's AD we need to dominate to the ends of the earth.

And here I thought we bonded last night.

JDar

Edited because I don't want to get in trouble again

Perichor

let me give you a little bit of a history lesson Slaxis

there was a time when we opened up a teamspeak for the whole faction to hop on at anytime to get organized along with all the guilds and came together as one

we as a faction proved that even if EP and DC have thousands and thousands of points above us we would win because we have organization like no other faction

this was short lived

you cant organize a faction unless you get through their pride

many AD especially leaders (this game needs alot more leaders) are just full of themselves thinking they are the best in the game and dont need anyone els
much less whole guilds

we rerolled to address population imbalance but now it seems the imbalance isnt population its organization EP has it right now and AD does not

AD will not win another campaign until this is dealt with

and as far as DC is concerned

im sure everyone knows the AvA pvp in eso is between AD and EP atm
until DC gets their strength back or columba leaves the game

Columba

hahahaha I have such an impact on dc's fortunes? lol. thou ART vexed primate! Lagspammers unite, LoL!

By the way, the word is else, not els. Els would be the plural of the letter L.

Tripwyr

Perichor wrote: »

let me give you a little bit of a history lesson Slaxis

there was a time when we opened up a teamspeak for the whole faction to hop on at anytime to get organized along with all the guilds and came together as one

we as a faction proved that even if EP and DC have thousands and thousands of points above us we would win because we have organization like no other faction

this was short lived

you cant organize a faction unless you get through their pride

many AD especially leaders (this game needs alot more leaders) are just full of themselves thinking they are the best in the game and dont need anyone els
much less whole guilds

we rerolled to address population imbalance but now it seems the imbalance isnt population its organization EP has it right now and AD does not

AD will not win another campaign until this is dealt with

and as far as DC is concerned

im sure everyone knows the AvA pvp in eso is between AD and EP atm
until DC gets their strength back or columba leaves the game

I'm not going to repeat what I just said in this other thread, so instead I will remind you that it was your guild which caused the council to collapse. More specifically it was the faction of your guild which remained red.

Columba

typical ep revisionist history, Tripwyr. God love you AD. Time to extirpate the EP.

Perichor

Tripwyr wrote: »

Perichor wrote: »

let me give you a little bit of a history lesson Slaxis

there was a time when we opened up a teamspeak for the whole faction to hop on at anytime to get organized along with all the guilds and came together as one

we as a faction proved that even if EP and DC have thousands and thousands of points above us we would win because we have organization like no other faction

this was short lived

you cant organize a faction unless you get through their pride

many AD especially leaders (this game needs alot more leaders) are just full of themselves thinking they are the best in the game and dont need anyone els
much less whole guilds

we rerolled to address population imbalance but now it seems the imbalance isnt population its organization EP has it right now and AD does not

AD will not win another campaign until this is dealt with

and as far as DC is concerned

im sure everyone knows the AvA pvp in eso is between AD and EP atm
until DC gets their strength back or columba leaves the game

I'm not going to repeat what I just said in this other thread, so instead I will remind you that it was your guild which caused the council to collapse. More specifically it was the faction of your guild which remained red.

LOL at the time we were blamed for using other guilds to further our own agenda of taking emps [and btw crowned Permared multiple times happily] but that wasnt the case

Venatus started propagating a message that we were not doing anything for the faction but farming all day and it was not the case meanwhile Alacrity at the time was nothing but a pure farming (and openly so) guild but supported by Ventaus

the council collapsed because other guilds felt "non-elite" they felt as inferiors not equals we rerolled partially for the undeserved hate and mainly because of population imbalanced

i dont have to clear this up with you because you know Alacrity didnt care about the scoreboard at the time farming bleakers all day

the guilds that were ACTUALLY a part of the council and its objectives day in and day out know it imploded because guilds want to be the main power always no guild ever wants to subordinate or submissive to the other in this AVA game there is more GVG conflict

it worked while it lasted that much is for certain
you can twist that however you want.