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So on ESO live they said Sorc gets a boost to Lightning splash . Light armor gets better spell penetration to help DPS and Heal Spells . Shield stacks no longer prevent heals and saps . Weapon swap will work with dodge roll now . Templar biting jabs been adjusted with longer cool down so opponents can get out of the way but didn't hear them say the CC immunity was going to corrected ever . They know about it and left it that way . And Pancake Tragedy was mentioned 3 times after his questions cause they really like pancakes n stuff .

Oh and there's of course new stuff they want tested still by players on PTS .
  • Asgari
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    1.6.3 seems to be the final end for magicka based sorcs. Not looking forward to this update one bit.
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  • Teargrants
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    1.6.3 seems to be the final end for magicka based sorcs. Not looking forward to this update one bit.
    Best part was "you have Shards" in response to alternative dps to Crushy Shock.
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  • Asgari
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    1.6.3 seems to be the final end for magicka based sorcs. Not looking forward to this update one bit.
    Best part was "you have Shards" in response to alternative dps to Crushy Shock.

    Yeah because he is so smart and knows that crystal frags doesn't proc itself. So we will all be sitting there hard casting crystal frags over and over every second. Then when a DK comes or another sorc I'll just blink away 17 times since my shields are reduced 15% and 2h does 24k crit rushes while crusty shock did like 6k hit...

    Oh the joys of creators not knowing their own games.
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  • Hughezy
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    1.6.3 seems to be the final end for magicka based sorcs. Not looking forward to this update one bit.
    Best part was "you have Shards" in response to alternative dps to Crushy Shock.

    Yeah because he is so smart and knows that crystal frags doesn't proc itself. So we will all be sitting there hard casting crystal frags over and over every second. Then when a DK comes or another sorc I'll just blink away 17 times since my shields are reduced 15% and 2h does 24k crit rushes while crusty shock did like 6k hit...

    Oh the joys of creators not knowing their own games.

    Dat Meteor doe ;)
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    1.6.3 seems to be the final end for magicka based sorcs. Not looking forward to this update one bit.
    Best part was "you have Shards" in response to alternative dps to Crushy Shock.

    Yeah because he is so smart and knows that crystal frags doesn't proc itself. So we will all be sitting there hard casting crystal frags over and over every second. Then when a DK comes or another sorc I'll just blink away 17 times since my shields are reduced 15% and 2h does 24k crit rushes while crusty shock did like 6k hit...

    Oh the joys of creators not knowing their own games.

    I'm not too keen on Sorcs so Ill take your word for it . He did seem to come across as more knowledgable about the PvE combat aspects then PvP . When he said they added a longer cool down to Biting Jabs instead of correcting the CC immunity I knew his focus probably wasn't PVP balance .
  • Asgari
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    1.6.3 seems to be the final end for magicka based sorcs. Not looking forward to this update one bit.
    Best part was "you have Shards" in response to alternative dps to Crushy Shock.

    Yeah because he is so smart and knows that crystal frags doesn't proc itself. So we will all be sitting there hard casting crystal frags over and over every second. Then when a DK comes or another sorc I'll just blink away 17 times since my shields are reduced 15% and 2h does 24k crit rushes while crusty shock did like 6k hit...

    Oh the joys of creators not knowing their own games.

    I'm not too keen on Sorcs so Ill take your word for it . He did seem to come across as more knowledgable about the PvE combat aspects then PvP . When he said they added a longer cool down to Biting Jabs instead of correcting the CC immunity I knew his focus probably wasn't PVP balance .

    zero pvp balance. They took a huge dump on PvP sorcs. The new passive change coming will not be a buff because it would need a substantial % increase per skill slotted which they wont do. They also wont tack it on top of passive reduced costs so it will do barely more dmg at a greater increased cost.

    In pvp there will be zero comparison to a crystal frags hard casting sorc to a 2h sorc. before the first frag is released they will be dead. This guy has no clue what he is doing.
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  • Pancake-Tragedy
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    They were more interested in pancake puns instead of addressing my question with a viable response :'(

    "You have instant cast crystal frags"
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    They were more interested in pancake puns instead of addressing my question with a viable response :'(

    "You have instant cast crystal frags"

    LMAO Yeah they were
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    1.6.3 seems to be the final end for magicka based sorcs. Not looking forward to this update one bit.
    Best part was "you have Shards" in response to alternative dps to Crushy Shock.

    Yeah because he is so smart and knows that crystal frags doesn't proc itself. So we will all be sitting there hard casting crystal frags over and over every second. Then when a DK comes or another sorc I'll just blink away 17 times since my shields are reduced 15% and 2h does 24k crit rushes while crusty shock did like 6k hit...

    Oh the joys of creators not knowing their own games.

    I'm not too keen on Sorcs so Ill take your word for it . He did seem to come across as more knowledgable about the PvE combat aspects then PvP . When he said they added a longer cool down to Biting Jabs instead of correcting the CC immunity I knew his focus probably wasn't PVP balance .

    I don't remember the part about a cooldown? What part of the video was that?
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  • Asgari
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    CC immunity is all sorts of broken in 1.6 .. So is roll dodge.

    Log onto pts and attempt to roll dodge anytime a Templar tosses a blazin spear your way. It will always stop you mid roll and force you to stand strait up in the air and be cc'd. @ZOS_GinaBruno‌
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  • Roechacca
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    1.6.3 seems to be the final end for magicka based sorcs. Not looking forward to this update one bit.
    Best part was "you have Shards" in response to alternative dps to Crushy Shock.

    Yeah because he is so smart and knows that crystal frags doesn't proc itself. So we will all be sitting there hard casting crystal frags over and over every second. Then when a DK comes or another sorc I'll just blink away 17 times since my shields are reduced 15% and 2h does 24k crit rushes while crusty shock did like 6k hit...

    Oh the joys of creators not knowing their own games.

    I'm not too keen on Sorcs so Ill take your word for it . He did seem to come across as more knowledgable about the PvE combat aspects then PvP . When he said they added a longer cool down to Biting Jabs instead of correcting the CC immunity I knew his focus probably wasn't PVP balance .

    I don't remember the part about a cooldown? What part of the video was that?

    It was live not video
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    Well, if we ask nicely maybe they'll change it in another year... Or maybe not.
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    "you have instant cast crystal frags"

    I have played quite a few sorcerers. I even made a LA staff one not too long ago and played her for a bit. Let me tell y'all, getting those crystal frags to instant cast or whatever its called, is not easy, and can be a pain sometimes.

    sometimes it will insta cast the first go, sometimes not for the next 6 goes. sometimes not at all. Hard casting it is suicide due to the venom arrow spam that goes on and other interrupts.....

    the excuse "you have instant cast crystal frags" is a truly pathetic and lazy excuse on the developers(or WHOEVER said it) part. I have not played a sorc to VR14, but I have SOME knowledge of the class, and if the devs really think a sorc can rely on instant cast crystal frags for their DPS output...... they are wrong.

    go ahead, try it. Maybe the game will decide to spare you and let it proc every single time.

    Edited by Cody on February 14, 2015 7:45AM
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    Also, if I'm not mistaken currently on the PTS half of the sorc skills aren't even procing the instacast frags.
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    Do they just not want us to use any class abils again.
    Edited by Valnas on February 14, 2015 2:53PM
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    Valnas wrote: »
    Do they just not want us to use any class abils again.

    They want everyone to use the toggle pets in PvP too which are useless as well. No PvP group will want a sorc using them just like they wont in PvE when the pets are sucking up heals and barely dishing out any DPS and have fairly low health.

    Sorcs seem to be the most ruined so far in 1.6 and they are making it worse each patch.
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    Valnas wrote: »
    Do they just not want us to use any class abils again.

    They want everyone to use the toggle pets in PvP too which are useless as well. No PvP group will want a sorc using them just like they wont in PvE when the pets are sucking up heals and barely dishing out any DPS and have fairly low health.

    Sorcs seem to be the most ruined so far in 1.6 and they are making it worse each patch.

    They said something about making pets immune to AOE dmg too last night .
  • Asgari
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Valnas wrote: »
    Do they just not want us to use any class abils again.

    They want everyone to use the toggle pets in PvP too which are useless as well. No PvP group will want a sorc using them just like they wont in PvE when the pets are sucking up heals and barely dishing out any DPS and have fairly low health.

    Sorcs seem to be the most ruined so far in 1.6 and they are making it worse each patch.

    They said something about making pets immune to AOE dmg too last night .

    The damage they do is pitiful compared to other skills. They are horrible in pvp and create barely any pressure in a 1v1 situation that 1 rally can heal through. I had high hopes for sorcs in 1.6 but I guess I'll just stick with my mixed DK build if they want zero sorcs in pvp.
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  • Roechacca
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Valnas wrote: »
    Do they just not want us to use any class abils again.

    They want everyone to use the toggle pets in PvP too which are useless as well. No PvP group will want a sorc using them just like they wont in PvE when the pets are sucking up heals and barely dishing out any DPS and have fairly low health.

    Sorcs seem to be the most ruined so far in 1.6 and they are making it worse each patch.

    They said something about making pets immune to AOE dmg too last night .

    The damage they do is pitiful compared to other skills. They are horrible in pvp and create barely any pressure in a 1v1 situation that 1 rally can heal through. I had high hopes for sorcs in 1.6 but I guess I'll just stick with my mixed DK build if they want zero sorcs in pvp.

    Again I think they guys angle was PvE . He said he knows about pets sucking up heals and his solution was making them immune to AOEs . Boss fights , he said have a lot of AOE dmg and this would help .

    He seems like a smart guy just young and maybe not very good at pvp . Maybe write that guy a letter ?
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    Maybe they just want pet armies running around. Effectively making your 24 man raid into a 48 man raid.Making even MORE lag and closing the book on PvP altogether.

    That's what I forsee. Some guild will do it too. Just watch lol.Oh, whats the latest ETA on that "other pvp 3-way faction" game. Anyone know?
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    Hey they read my question!

    Suck it, shields.
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  • Asgari
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Hey they read my question!

    Suck it, shields.

    Light Armor is useless now. Shields are nerfed 15% and the incoming attacks can also crit on shields. You cant be an effective spell caster in medium or heavy armor and needed to passives from LA to help you. Being in LA you take massive damage from stamina based attacks and shields were your only safety net as you cant roll as efficient or block as often.

    Medium armor has more passives than LA and makes stamina based abilities hit 2-3 times as hard compared to magicka based abilities. A huge imbalance has been created and once 1.6.3 is out it will only get worse.
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    Asgari is right, I have played a magicka sorc as my sole character since launch, and I think its dead.

    It is simply not viable, pve damage sucks, and the shield nerfs and such on pvp make the class not viable.

    You need light armor to be a caster class, but light armor don't stop poo so we need shields, but shields got crushed hard

    I'll probably just roll a two handed templar or just quit, I haven't decided yet.

    These changes just scream of damn incompetence, folks obviously don't play their own game at all or they would know sorcs have been at the bottom damage wise for months, and were only wanted for negate, now, we wont even be wanted for that...
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    Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)

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    woodsro wrote: »
    Asgari is right, I have played a magicka sorc as my sole character since launch, and I think its dead.

    It is simply not viable, pve damage sucks, and the shield nerfs and such on pvp make the class not viable.

    You need light armor to be a caster class, but light armor don't stop poo so we need shields, but shields got crushed hard

    I'll probably just roll a two handed templar or just quit, I haven't decided yet.

    These changes just scream of damn incompetence, folks obviously don't play their own game at all or they would know sorcs have been at the bottom damage wise for months, and were only wanted for negate, now, we wont even be wanted for that...

    for solo play the Templar and night blades will rule. In group play it will be all about Templar and DKs. Sorcs dont fit in anywhere now since they can fit any role even halfway decent.

    I only wish before they nerfed all the grinding that i made an Imperial Templar.
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    Agreed, it will probably be a long haul to grind a templar...not looking forward to it.

    Its a shame, ZOS is turning me into a togglemancer, when all I want to do is throw lightng bolts..:(
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    Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)

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    @woodsro‌ - I refuse to use pets. The only "pet" i even consider using is an Atronoch which in most cases doesn't even get used. With the passive change coming in 1.6.3 using any of our main DPS skills will now have an increased cost along with all of the added increased damage coming to us.

    There is just no possible way to make sorcs viable in the coming state.
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  • rsciw
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    Never thought I'd say so but I agree with Woodsro for once...

    Guess it's good I'm an altoholic and have templars plus a couple (still need to level) DKs.
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    We do as we damn well please

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