[UPDATED 2.0.12] Champion Point Passives Calculators

Faugaun

Text on all web pages updated for 1.6.5

Faugaun

Went ahead and added "Back to calculator Index" links to each calculator. To facilitate easier navigation.

Faugaun

Seeking suggestions what do you all want next?

Faugaun

Will try to update for 1.6.6 this evening but certainly will get it by tomorrow evening.

Faugaun

Looking at the patch notes there are no changes to champion system and the calculators should be fine to use for version 1.6.6 I will verify with a fine toothed comb later if I have time

Faugaun

Ok I have checked all the new stars no changes were done and the calculators are up to date for version 1.6.6 the text on the web pages will be updated when I have a chance tomorrow.

Faugaun

all pages updated to reflect their current version

Morshire

Take it back..glad I didn't post. You actually are kinda smart there my friend and I was the idiot. So, are you planning to do the other trees for totals? Like you did with the Mage's Apprentice Tree? Cause I am not totally sure, but it seems like I am not getting the same result that your calculator is giving. It is probably me, and I want to go and redo them at home to find out what is wrong. According to you, I will need 50 points (example) in the apprentice tree to get 26K magicka...from my current spot. I would like to see what the other trees offer in relation to my skills, to even decide if the grind is worth it. Honestly, I only want some of the stuff now. The rest can just happen right?

And I know you put in a great deal of work. Hopefully more people come around and look.

Morshire

Also, I know it is trivial, but this reads wrong:


Magicka Calculator for the Mage
February 9, 2015 EcoMan
In Tamriel Unlimited (Elder Scrolls Online (ESO)) version 1.6.6 there is a Champion Point system and by adding champion points to the Mage constellations (Apprentice, Atronach and Ritual constellations) characters can gain additional Magicka. Below is a calculator which will calculate the effects on Magicka with changes in points in the tree. The data used to derive the equations was gathered by @Bouvin. It should be noted that while 400 points (100 per star) may be put into each constellation (meaning 1200 are possible for the Thief), only the first 1000 points will increase you Magicka. This was discovered by @Soulac and many thanks to him for this tidbit. He created and supports standalone build planner that fulfills a slightly different purpose than my calculators.


The bold. The Thief does Stamina right

Faugaun

Morshire wrote: »

Also, I know it is trivial, but this reads wrong:


Magicka Calculator for the Mage
February 9, 2015 EcoMan
In Tamriel Unlimited (Elder Scrolls Online (ESO)) version 1.6.6 there is a Champion Point system and by adding champion points to the Mage constellations (Apprentice, Atronach and Ritual constellations) characters can gain additional Magicka. Below is a calculator which will calculate the effects on Magicka with changes in points in the tree. The data used to derive the equations was gathered by @Bouvin. It should be noted that while 400 points (100 per star) may be put into each constellation (meaning 1200 are possible for the Thief), only the first 1000 points will increase you Magicka. This was discovered by @Soulac and many thanks to him for this tidbit. He created and supports standalone build planner that fulfills a slightly different purpose than my calculators.


The bold. The Thief does Stamina right

Yeah it is supposed to be stamina and as far as the different results you are getting it's because mine is a simplified multiplier. The key is in Soulac's post

Soulac wrote: »

Faugaun wrote: »

Hey @Tarikko @Elder_III @Dagoth_Rac @Atarax @SG_Celerrimus @Soulac @Bouvin I am working on the layout for the more advanced calculator and I would like everyones input before I get too far into this much larger project. Anyone else is welcome to give input also. Some specific questions I would like answered:

I have changed the input (for the star CP values) into slider bars instead of input text boxes is there a preference?

The tower tree as you pit points into the stars will pop-up passives as they are unlocked (not implemented in the other trees yet) is this desirable (obviously a description of the passive telling what the bonus does would pop up in the completed version)?

Under each star in the tower tree is a box this will output the % buff like in the basic calculators, is this the correct info people would like here? Desired format? Any additional info that would be wanted here?

Any further feedback?

I guess my idea is that the larger calculators will provide the necessary (for a build info) while the basic calculators will contain graphs and additional information for theory crafting or understanding etc...that said its the entire playernase that will be utilizing the calculators so your input helps to make sure the product is useful for everyone.

Oh...I almost forgot here's the link to the current advanced calculator:

http://asolutionaday.com/elder-scrolls-calculators/thief/thief-constellations-calculator/

Edit: Also I changed the formatting some I think it looks better aesthetically than the orogionals ...so lemme know if the new look or the old look is preferable.

Well you ask about the current Ressource, but the champion-system doesn´t care about Mundus or Foodbuff bonus, so it´s calculated without them.

Let them insert their current Mundus, their active BuffFood and their current Stat, you´ll need all three for a correct calculation.

((Base+Enchant+Set)*(Modifier*InvestedChampionPoints^Modifier)+(Base+Enchant+Set+BuffFood+Mundus))*(1+OtherPassives)

So basically what your reading and what actually needs to be modified, you have to remove other passives effects, food effects and mundus stone effects to arrive at the exact value...unfortunately it's hard to build all of those variables into my calculators without producing instability. I'm working on a solution when I have time and am motivated (which has been infrequently recently). I plan to continental expanding them though. The next big thing I am planning is to have them display the CP change that way you can put in a value and ir tells (as a percent) how much benefit you get....do this for two stars and it should be an equal comparison. Allowing you to maximize your benefits.

Faugaun

ok I fixed that typo Will work on the other when I can.

Morshire

@Faugaun - Well I appreciate the efforts you and others have put together. The grind to 3600 CP just seems daunting to me. Using this tool, I can figure what my immediate goals are going to be, and how many points I need to get there. Especially now. I am making alts, with specific goals in mind for them. This allows me to get there fastest way possible, and I can seriously avoid grinding for the next 4-5 months trying to get to where I want to be. Thanks again.

Faugaun

Morshire wrote: »

@Faugaun - Well I appreciate the efforts you and others have put together. The grind to 3600 CP just seems daunting to me. Using this tool, I can figure what my immediate goals are going to be, and how many points I need to get there. Especially now. I am making alts, with specific goals in mind for them. This allows me to get there fastest way possible, and I can seriously avoid grinding for the next 4-5 months trying to get to where I want to be. Thanks again.

No problem I am just glad some people are getting use out of them.

Faugaun

Going on vacation so I will be unable to check accuracy of the calculators on Monday...but I will check them once I am back in a week. I should be able to update if nothing is noted in patch notes...but will not be able to verify accuracy until I return.

ashlee17

Just want to say great work!

Faugaun

Thanks ashlee17!

Faugaun

Sorry out of the country, and my website security systems dont allow others countries to login.....lol..anyways it msan s that 2.0calculators will be delayed till Monday many apologies...the current onesmay be accurate but until I can verify....

Cheers!

Faugaun

Installing 2.0 then will check for changes and update the calculators (hopefully no changes and good to go but it could take till tomorrow).

Faugaun

No changes to the CS that modify the calculators, you may use them and assume they are correct. I will update the version info on the webpages tonight or tomorrow.

Faugaun

Updating for 2.0.2 as we speak

Faugaun

No changes to the champion system, you may use them as they are for reliable accuracy and the text on the web pages will be updated shortly

Faugaun

2.0.2 Complete, everything updated have fun and enjoy... as always post here with any problems and I will update them next update.

Faugaun

Excited about updating for 2.0.3 how about you all?

Faugaun

2.0.3 is the same as 2.0.2 I will update the notes later as I am in the middle of other stuff atm but the calculators can be used and assumed to be accurate

Faugaun

ok, my other stuff cleared and everything is updated and ready to go for 2.0.3

Faugaun

will update again at next patch everyone enjoy the calculators

Faugaun

2.0.3 Updated calculators to provide more information 4/1/2015

See for more details - http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/162375/guide-a-how-to-for-determine-the-ideal-use-of-champion-points-for-your-build#latest

Faugaun

Ready to update for 2.0.4 tomorrow!

Faugaun

No changes calculators are up to date, will update text at somepoint in the next few days.

Faugaun

Also, please check out the newest calculators,

You can check out how effective exp or gold grinding spots are with this calculator, perhaps see profits from time in the justice system:
http://asolutionaday.com/general/grind-spot-calculator-rate-per-hour/

You can also compare with ease stacks of items (of different sizes) with prices at you auction house or in game chat to find the true per item price and save money (I think an add-on does this for many of us I cannot recall if the main UI does or not but this could at least be handy when trading in zone chat):
http://asolutionaday.com/saving-money/cost-per-item-calculator/