Are stamina builds more viables in 1.6?

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO · January 2015

Are stamina builds more viables in 1.6? Or ZOS have went in wrong direction?. Discuss. Thanks.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · January 2015

Stamina builds have been viable since 1.4 now they are almost the only way to go.

fethry8oeb17_ESO · January 2015

thou major buffs not stacking...

Cody · January 2015

hiding behind damage shields and perma block/block casting are still the top dog play styles, according to what iv gathered from all the PvP I have been able to play.

Stamina builds, do, however, seem to be a little better. idk about being the only ways to go, but they seem to be better.

ub17_ESO · January 2015

Stamina Sorcs lost their remarkable survivability due to the change to crit surge. Also the passive "Exploitation" changed to only grant spell crit.

Medium Armor also took a pretty significant nerf in the dexterity passive. I'm coming up about 10% shy of where I was in crit on live. This is with the champion system 12% bonus to crit. On magic builds I am pretty much identical to my live builds.

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO · January 2015

Thanks, I am glad to know that stamina builds will be better than in 1.5 patch.

itsBishop · January 2015

arnaldomoraleseb17_ESO wrote: »

Thanks, I am glad to know that stamina builds will be better than in 1.5 patch.

Stamina builds are currently very good on the live server.

Satiar · January 2015

Stamina is good on live, good on PTS. Had to change some stuff around tho.

kev_mars1b16_ESO · January 2015

Stamina builds are better on live than on PTS at the moment. PTS builds have huge resource issues, even with points appropriately spent in Champion system and with reduction gear. You'll zero out much quicker, wheras on live you can basically have infinite stamina if you play your cards right - this isn't possible on PTS. ZOS is basically forcing you to use heavy attacks otherwise you'll bottom out; with the 8% nerf to flurry DW will take a big hit in the relative DPS it was able to crank out. I can still do my bow single target rotation without running out of stam, but if you start trying to do stamina AoE you'll bottom out quickly.

Satiar · January 2015

kev_mars1b16_ESO wrote: »

Stamina builds are better on live than on PTS at the moment. PTS builds have huge resource issues, even with points appropriately spent in Champion system and with reduction gear. You'll zero out much quicker, wheras on live you can basically have infinite stamina if you play your cards right - this isn't possible on PTS. ZOS is basically forcing you to use heavy attacks otherwise you'll bottom out; with the 8% nerf to flurry DW will take a big hit in the relative DPS it was able to crank out. I can still do my bow single target rotation without running out of stam, but if you start trying to do stamina AoE you'll bottom out quickly.

Not exactly. I did have to redo my build, but on PTS I've managed to improve relative burst and drastically improve sustain. Completely different tho, way new spec, old ones not competitive.

kev_mars1b16_ESO · January 2015

On fights longer than ~30s you'll start to have resource issues with DW, that's with about 140CP spent appropriately to help with this issue and with vicious ophidian. That or you'll have to use heavy attacks which in turn lowers your dps. As the only group to have done AA/HRC on PTS and world's 1st SO, NA 1st VDSA on live as a stam DPS I think I have the experience to claim this.

If you think you have a competitive DPS DW build on PTS that has more sustain than this, feel free to post it.

McDoogs · January 2015

kev_mars1b16_ESO wrote: »

On fights longer than ~30s you'll start to have resource issues with DW, that's with about 140CP spent appropriately to help with this issue and with vicious ophidian. That or you'll have to use heavy attacks which in turn lowers your dps. As the only group to have done AA/HRC on PTS and world's 1st SO, NA 1st VDSA on live as a stam DPS I think I have the experience to claim this.

If you think you have a competitive DPS DW build on PTS that has more sustain than this, feel free to post it.

How do you have 140 CP already?

kev_mars1b16_ESO · January 2015

Not entirely sure.. I first logged into my main and was champion rank 65, then I made a template character and logged back into my main and had like a champion rank in the 130's. Some sort of glitch I'm sure.