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70 CP are not enough
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In 1.6 resources (Stamina, Magicka and Health) are nerfed very badly and if you want to keep the same level that you have before 1.6 you need at least 500 CP. Basically what happen now is that ZoS will force us to grind CP but it won't be easy at all. Even if you grind you need at least 1 hour for a CP. As I said in order to feel as powerful as you are in 1.5 you need at least 500 CP which is 500 hours grinding.
ZoS you should truck our XP as you said.
ZoS you should truck our XP as you said.
Because I can!
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Joejudas✭✭✭✭✭i agree with you in the sense that for my build they made all the dps skills i used previously that used magic use stam now...and i use dw weapon skills. so all my damage and ability come off my stam bar now...the stam draw is so bad i cant do effective dps. we do need more cp. unless they put a stam "spell sem" in the game...which they wont.0 -
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✭✭I like the update, at least most of the changes. I am not going to lie, but in order to use the new changes we need CP so we can have the passives to retrieve the level that we are right now. I do not want form ZoS to give me free CP, just these ones that they said that track our exp.
ZoS will remove the veteran ranks because players complained that they have to grind but actually now players have to grind even more.Because I can!3 -
Govalon✭✭✭✭If you can do all the content you could before, there is no problem. Everyone else was made weaker too so this has no effect in pvp. You are just as good as before regardless how powerful you feel.2 -
Digiman✭✭✭✭✭Nothing is set here. They could add more after the PTS. As for grinding it there are plenty of dailies. Also isn't that whole point of an MMO? To grind incessantly?1 -
Joejudas✭✭✭✭✭If you can do all the content you could before, there is no problem. Everyone else was made weaker too so this has no effect in pvp. You are just as good as before regardless how powerful you feel.
they nerfed armor, crit, ult gain and most dps ability. Not having like 300 cp and only having 70 makes it diffucult to do stuff i could before. i dont like 1.6 on the pts right now. i just sat in rawl with my dk for like 10 mins thinking " how is it possible that they nerfed this class this badly" .Edited by Joejudas on January 29, 2015 10:46AM0 -
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There is some logic in your words and I also thought about it. But a weaker range player is stronger than a weaker mele player. In a group fight 15vs15, if I am mele and I charge into the enemy group without the passives from the CP I will die very fast. So I have to change to a range build while I got all desired points.If you can do all the content you could before, there is no problem. Everyone else was made weaker too so this has no effect in pvp. You are just as good as before regardless how powerful you feel.
Edited by Bashev on January 29, 2015 10:48AMBecause I can!3 -
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Only a minority PVP, for the majority these are massive nerfs which aren't reflected in the PVE content.If you can do all the content you could before, there is no problem. Everyone else was made weaker too so this has no effect in pvp. You are just as good as before regardless how powerful you feel.
It may well be are pandering to PVP whine and destroying the PVE side of the game in the process.4 -
ZigoSid✭✭✭✭Nothing is set here. They could add more after the PTS. As for grinding it there are plenty of dailies. Also isn't that whole point of an MMO? To grind incessantly?
Plenty of dailies ? I hope you don't count Craglorn because the only daily thing in this zone is the time before finding a good group
Edited by ZigoSid on January 29, 2015 11:04AM2 -
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✭Yep it looks like they did the big no no in my book, made us weaker so we can buy back our stats we had before 1.6 with champ points, I have to say that is my biggest disappointment but I will roll with the flow and see what happens
Edited by kevlarto_ESO on January 29, 2015 11:03AM0 -
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No. If grinding dailies is the only option then its a very poor MMO and very uninteresting. Just because other MMOs get reduced to this format doesn't make it right for ESO to resort to the same.Nothing is set here. They could add more after the PTS. As for grinding it there are plenty of dailies. Also isn't that whole point of an MMO? To grind incessantly?
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Rev Rielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭Good news!
You can get more Champion Points by playing the game. Basically everything you do in game will get you experience that goes towards CPs, so rejoice.
CPs are not something to 'max out as quickly as possible'. If you think they are you've completely lost the point of what and why ZOS has introduced them, completely.Edited by Rev Rielle on January 29, 2015 12:31PMIf you can be anything, be kind.6 -
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eserras7b16_ESO✭✭✭✭We'll need to go back into farming easy dungeons or leveling alts... we need more than 70 points, or people will log in and complain they can't complete AA, HEL-RA, not to say SO and Veteran dungeons. Think zenimax wants us to start again... but we've dedicated so much hours -.-Eptackt - Argonian Templar
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Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
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Playing what? I have no more quests. I play PvP but anyway. I understand what is the point of champion system but why they nerfed all statistics. Now if I want to be back at the level where I am now in 1.5 I need a lot of CP (around 400). The problem is that 400 CP are 6 months probably.Rev Rielle wrote: »Good news!
You can get more Champion Points by playing the game. Basically everything you do in game will get you experience that goes towards CPs, so rejoice.
CPs are not something to 'max out as quickly as possible'. If you think they are you've completely lost the point of what and why ZOS has introduced them, completely.
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cote-bmsb16_ESO✭✭✭Yea. Cost of roll dodging & blocking is really high even though I spec'd into a stamina templar. I played this game longer than i'd like to admit, and the introduction of CP makes it seem like a daunting mountain to climb.. Again. At v14.2
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McDoogs✭✭✭✭Rev Rielle wrote: »Good news!
You can get more Champion Points by playing the game. Basically everything you do in game will get you experience that goes towards CPs, so rejoice.
CPs are not something to 'max out as quickly as possible'. If you think they are you've completely lost the point of what and why ZOS has introduced them, completely.
Are you insane? What content do you have access to that we don't?1 -
bertenburnyb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭since I have 2 V14 with wich I both finished cadwells gold, I wish I would get atleast 70CP with each, so 140CP total, but alas, all the time spend on my second char is thrown out the windowHaze Ramoran Dunmer Dragonknight Tank/Dps – Smoked-Da-Herb Saxheel Templar Tank/Healer
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Faugaun✭✭✭✭✭How are you going to grind 400k XP in an hour?
Currently I can do 60k in 6-8 minutes....400k in an hour is possibleMy new startup social network for Theorycrafting
Champion Point Calculators
Sharable samples:
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Warrior.htm?ba=5&bl=&e=12&ha=10&he=&l=&m=&n=5&q=20&r=15&s=15&t=18
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Thief.htm?a=5&b=22&d=2&e=18&h=8&ma=0&mo=5&sh=9&sp=19&te=12&tu=13&w=1
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Mage.htm?bla=5&ble=1&bo=6&ele=2&elf=3&h=7&m=9&pi=10&pr=20&sp=4&st=8&t=403 -
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One solution is to roll a new character, that way you earn Inspiration, then CPS which are accountwide.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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Faugaun✭✭✭✭✭You can earn cp by playing the game means to redo gold and silver?
Ya on your now more powerful alt that has 70 cp, it will be quicker...stop whining and get him to 50, quick quick before this rolls live!My new startup social network for Theorycrafting
Champion Point Calculators
Sharable samples:
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Warrior.htm?ba=5&bl=&e=12&ha=10&he=&l=&m=&n=5&q=20&r=15&s=15&t=18
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Thief.htm?a=5&b=22&d=2&e=18&h=8&ma=0&mo=5&sh=9&sp=19&te=12&tu=13&w=1
http://asolutionaday.com/test/Mage.htm?bla=5&ble=1&bo=6&ele=2&elf=3&h=7&m=9&pi=10&pr=20&sp=4&st=8&t=401 -
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And what PVE game is there to play at VR14 that will generate even a single CP in a month?Rev Rielle wrote: »You can get more Champion Points by playing the game.
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Even if we can grind 1 CP per hour that is a lot of time for 500 CP so you can feel powerful enough.