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[1.6][Templar] and [Tank] Discussion
Iduyenn
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Hello brothers and sisters
I have a few points and hope to find answers, wisdom and other stuff
@Zenimax: I dont get your concept of Tanking
You seem to aim for less trinity. The Tank doesn’t have to tank a whole group of mobs, only the big ones. Besides the fact, that this concept needs superior communication for skills, roles and playstile there are some problems.
As a Templar I would need radial sweep, but to have an effective ultimate, you need
a) Either high Stamina or high magicka. At the moment I have a balance between those two. So my scaling is very bad.
b) You need a lot of mobs hiting on you or at least be near you, so you hit as many as possible.
c) Stamina-and Magicka heals are not effective enough compared to your other atributes
On the other hand you increased the cost of the magicka spot. So Tank should either go full magicka or full stamina. Both ways, we miss either class skills, or weapon and utility.
How can i owercome that?I mean the magicka Spot isnt even very reliable...
Spellresistance and Armor:
- If I craft new gear and use the reinforced trait, will I get more Armor AND Spellristance? Or will I have to take Nirnhoned for more spellresistance? After testing i think you only get Armor and Spellresistance for your amor value. Not for setbonuses and enchantements. Right?
- Has anyone tested the Twice Born Star Set? (Impact of the Mundus Stones vs Traits).
Anyone Knows how much 50% dmg mitigation (Armor/Spell) is in numbers? I had over 24k of both and there was no ending in sight.
Choice of Race
The higher the base value (I had 30k life) the better the percentages you get with race-passives. As an imperial you get like 3k life... That is not nothing anymore.
There has to be a possibility for other classes to compete.
Since health seems to become more and more important (besides armor and spellresistance). Utility is out, because either you stack stamina or magicka, or you just take enough for spot and defence... Not Group support anymore?
Will everybody use structured Entropy now?
Champion System
I imagined it bigger. There is some pretty cool stuff tough. Anyway, it feels unfinished and in some constellations there is a lack of choices. (Not in the brown constellation... there is awsome stuff there).
Dont get me wrong, i think the changes are interesting, but there are some black holes... Especially when it comes to percentages...
I will add and clarify some stuff. Please add your observations and answers to my questions. Or feel free to ask questions yourselves.
PS: I prefer Footman and Twice born Star. And you? What will you change with patch 1.6? What will be important? Will some of you go with nirnhoned?
I have a few points and hope to find answers, wisdom and other stuff
@Zenimax: I dont get your concept of Tanking
You seem to aim for less trinity. The Tank doesn’t have to tank a whole group of mobs, only the big ones. Besides the fact, that this concept needs superior communication for skills, roles and playstile there are some problems.
As a Templar I would need radial sweep, but to have an effective ultimate, you need
a) Either high Stamina or high magicka. At the moment I have a balance between those two. So my scaling is very bad.
b) You need a lot of mobs hiting on you or at least be near you, so you hit as many as possible.
c) Stamina-and Magicka heals are not effective enough compared to your other atributes
On the other hand you increased the cost of the magicka spot. So Tank should either go full magicka or full stamina. Both ways, we miss either class skills, or weapon and utility.
How can i owercome that?I mean the magicka Spot isnt even very reliable...
Spellresistance and Armor:
- If I craft new gear and use the reinforced trait, will I get more Armor AND Spellristance? Or will I have to take Nirnhoned for more spellresistance? After testing i think you only get Armor and Spellresistance for your amor value. Not for setbonuses and enchantements. Right?
- Has anyone tested the Twice Born Star Set? (Impact of the Mundus Stones vs Traits).
Anyone Knows how much 50% dmg mitigation (Armor/Spell) is in numbers? I had over 24k of both and there was no ending in sight.
Choice of Race
The higher the base value (I had 30k life) the better the percentages you get with race-passives. As an imperial you get like 3k life... That is not nothing anymore.
There has to be a possibility for other classes to compete.
Since health seems to become more and more important (besides armor and spellresistance). Utility is out, because either you stack stamina or magicka, or you just take enough for spot and defence... Not Group support anymore?
Will everybody use structured Entropy now?
Champion System
I imagined it bigger. There is some pretty cool stuff tough. Anyway, it feels unfinished and in some constellations there is a lack of choices. (Not in the brown constellation... there is awsome stuff there).
Dont get me wrong, i think the changes are interesting, but there are some black holes... Especially when it comes to percentages...
I will add and clarify some stuff. Please add your observations and answers to my questions. Or feel free to ask questions yourselves.
PS: I prefer Footman and Twice born Star. And you? What will you change with patch 1.6? What will be important? Will some of you go with nirnhoned?
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