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Meeting deadlines ?
Joejudas
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When i was in the military....when we were given a deadline we didnt wait until 1 min before the deadline. In the professional world they dont do that either. Your not meeting a deadline by completing right before the last possible moment. If you planned out putting out the pts in the first week of Jan...and its taking you this long now to get it out...then your costumers should really get the info. leaving us in the dark is pissing us off. The last 6 weeks have included this : One ESO live that completely pissed everyone off.....then 3 weeks of vacation and no maintenance or news about anything, an ESO live that said nothing, then one maintenance. Does it really take you 6 weeks to write patch notes....cause your clearly not working on 1.6
Edited by Joejudas on January 20, 2015 10:54PM 9
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✭✭✭deadline among other things they do regarding info is killing the entire desire to play for me so im there with ya..3 -
Valymer✭✭✭✭✭I guess the difference there is that in the military being late can kill your co-workers, I highly doubt anyone at Zenimax is dying over a missed release date (unless they commit suicide due to despair from all of the "ESO is going F2P" rumor posts)1
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✭When i was in the military....when we were given a deadline we didnt wait until 1 min before the deadline. In the professional world they dont do that either. Your not meeting a deadline by completing right before the last possible moment. If you planned out putting out the pts in the first week of Jan...and its taking you this long now to get it out...then your costumers should really get the info. leaving us in the dark is pissing us off.
Seriously? the military? So the term "hurry up and wait" came about because everyone was on time? C'mon man.Edited by kieso on January 20, 2015 10:33PM5 -
Joejudas✭✭✭✭✭so getting to work 1 min before your late..and turning in work 1 min before its late is good professional practice right......BECAUSE IT ISNT !!!!12
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tinythinker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They've already said a while back that there unexpected issues that have delayed the release of 1.6 to the PTS. So you were notified. They also said that they were still working toward getting 1.6 to the PTS in January. So you are not in the dark.
Tentative release dates for updates ("We hope/plan to...by/around...") in gaming are often rough ETAs. But they aren't going to give regular reports on how close they think they are to release, as it would make many people even more impatient...
"We think it might be ready this Friday..."
"We are still waiting on X, so it looks like it won't be until Tuesday at the earliest..."
"Y is still having compatibility issues with Z so it'll be at least another couple of days..."
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Joejudas✭✭✭✭✭tinythinker wrote: »They've already said a while back that there unexpected issues that have delayed the release of 1.6 to the PTS. So you were notified. They also said that they were still working toward getting 1.6 to the PTS in January. So you are not in the dark.
Tentative release dates for updates ("We hope/plan to...by/around...") in gaming are often rough ETAs. But they aren't going to give regular reports on how close they think they are to release, as it would make many people even more impatient.
what quote where ? The only thing the say is " Jan..its coming in Jan" well its the 20th....its insulting0 -
Hookgrin✭✭✭When an update is coming, people complain that it is taking too long. When it's released and has bugs, people complain they didn't take enough time to make sure it was ready.
They were on vacation the first week of January, pretty sure they said sometime around mid January. It is still mid January. And although I would love to play it now, I'd wait a few weeks if that will help minimize the issues when it is released.1 -
Joejudas✭✭✭✭✭its called a pts.......because we test the damn thing. if its that filled with bugs still that we cant even test it...then they should say so. We are paying them moneyEdited by Joejudas on January 20, 2015 10:43PM0
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✭✭✭so getting to work 1 min before your late..and turning in work 1 min before its late is good professional practice right......BECAUSE IT ISNT !!!!1
So...on time?"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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WldKarde✭✭✭✭✭Do you want it right now, or rather wait until it is ready???
With all of the howling on this forum about each patch breaking more stuff...
I for one am glad ZOS is taking their time with this one to get it right.
Take your time ZOS...this one will still be here enjoying your game when your ready to release 1.6.PC NACharacters formally known as Veteran 16:
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✭✭✭✭✭The only thing the say is " Jan..its coming in Jan" well its the 20th....its insulting
Wow, OK, well, if you are insulted that easily you are going to be offended quite a bit then. Feeling insulted or angry won't make the update ready any faster, though.
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Joejudas✭✭✭✭✭Do you want it right now, or rather wait until it is ready???
With all of the howling on this forum about each patch breaking more stuff...
I for one am glad ZOS is taking their time with this one to get it right.
Take your time ZOS...this one will still be here enjoying your game when your ready to release 1.6.
im not a mushroom....so i will ask and keep pressing.0 -
NotSo✭✭✭✭I am also military but I try to avoid applying this mentality to anything other than military.
Please don't lump me in with the OP, I am absolutely patient.Gar'Sol the Wanderer VR14 Khajiit Sorcerer Spellblade6 -
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✭✭✭✭As much as I want 1.6, I don't really agree with applying military mentality to civilian matters like video game development. Most likely, they ran into some last minute catastrophic bug that needs to be fixed before they can push it.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭I guess the difference there is that in the military being late can kill your co-workers, I highly doubt anyone at Zenimax is dying over a missed release date (unless they commit suicide due to despair from all of the "ESO is going F2P" rumor posts)
Unless someone gets nutty about the patch notes not being out.2 -
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✭✭✭tinythinker wrote: »They've already said a while back that there unexpected issues that have delayed the release of 1.6 to the PTS. So you were notified. They also said that they were still working toward getting 1.6 to the PTS in January. So you are not in the dark.
Tentative release dates for updates ("We hope/plan to...by/around...") in gaming are often rough ETAs. But they aren't going to give regular reports on how close they think they are to release, as it would make many people even more impatient.
what quote where ? The only thing the say is " Jan..its coming in Jan" well its the 20th....its insulting
Gee. I wonder why they don't want to give out information.
IF Zenimax is anything like Bethesda, they won't give a definite date until they know they will make that date. Giving a general time frame is a general time frame.
Would it be more "insulting" to give a definite date and having to retract it, possibly more than once as the work and circumstances might require it? Personal opinion; I'd rather have a general time frame of "1st quarter of 2015" instead of missed dates that would generate even more ranting and OMG THE DEVS LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!2 -
AlayneStone✭✭✭I'm not sure I understand why it's such a big deal to release it to pts, it's bound to be full of bugs like the other updates so isn't that what pts is meant for...0 -
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✭My 3 year old would literally ask if we were at the store yet before we even left our street....I bet ZOS feels as I did in those moments. Too bad they can't say "if you ask me that again I will take you home and no store for you at all" equivalent
If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!1 -
Valymer✭✭✭✭✭Psychobunni wrote: »My 3 year old would literally ask if we were at the store yet before we even left our street....I bet ZOS feels as I did in those moments. Too bad they can't say "if you ask me that again I will take you home and no store for you at all" equivalent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18AzodTPG5U 2 -
negbert✭✭✭✭I've never heard of a major software development project that met all of it's deadlines. It just doesn't happen.1