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Will Update 1.6 make ESO run like a smooth sleek European race car?

Messy1
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I saw all the "Fix Everything" images so I'm assuming a lot of the 1.6 fixes will include things like . . . oh, say functioning LFG tool, reduced crashes, reduced glitches, grouping mechanism that does not need to be disbanded and then regrouped if you port to a dungeon or other location . . . . lala 64 pages
  • Gyudan
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    grumpy-cat-no-2.jpg

    There will be lots of improvements but also new bugs and complaints. Can't wait to see it on PTS ... :)
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  • TehMagnus
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    It will make it run as an American race car since the NA and EU servers are in the US (despite what they say) ;).

    We just checked this yesterday night again and the EU servers have been back to NA for months without ZOS saying anything to the community.

    Which *sarcasm mode off* means that no matter what they do, EU users will continue having latency / lag and ping issues since the servers are in North America. If anyone doesn't believe me, download & install TCPview while the game is running and the launcher is closed and then find the "eso.exe" lines, look at the IP and trace it back to the USA :).
  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    TehMagnus wrote: »
    the servers are in North America. If anyone doesn't believe me, download & install TCPview while the game is running and the launcher is closed and then find the "eso.exe" lines, look at the IP and trace it back to the USA :).
    They're not, they're in Europe, you don't understand that which you're looking at and how it relates to the game servers.
  • TehMagnus
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    TehMagnus wrote: »
    the servers are in North America. If anyone doesn't believe me, download & install TCPview while the game is running and the launcher is closed and then find the "eso.exe" lines, look at the IP and trace it back to the USA :).
    They're not, they're in Europe, you don't understand that which you're looking at and how it relates to the game servers.

    I work in IT and I think I know what I'm seeing when I see all my packets going back & forth with an American IP. Stop being ignorant, and check it out for yourself.
  • Paske
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    TehMagnus wrote: »
    It will make it run as an American race car since the NA and EU servers are in the US (despite what they say) ;).

    We just checked this yesterday night again and the EU servers have been back to NA for months without ZOS saying anything to the community.

    Which *sarcasm mode off* means that no matter what they do, EU users will continue having latency / lag and ping issues since the servers are in North America. If anyone doesn't believe me, download & install TCPview while the game is running and the launcher is closed and then find the "eso.exe" lines, look at the IP and trace it back to the USA :).


    Interesting.

    I will have to check it out my self.

    It seems the migration did not run so smoothly as anticipated.
    Or Germans simply do not have enough power to run the game properly.

    I understand why they would not disclose this kind of information to general public.

    This explains some issues I been having for a while now.
    Or it could be unrelated.

    Did you do Cyro / PVE test ?
    Because I have better ping in Cyro then PVE. ( insane I know )
  • Sharee
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    I fully expect to be crashing every 2 hours at least, for a month :)
  • WhiskyBob
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    Few people ran packet tracing for more than a few times. Servers are in US. Nothing will change for EU. People will still get disconnected.
    So far the biggest challenge i've had in Sanctum was Disconnecto The Random (boss that kicks random person from the party, usually healer, from game)
  • kongkim
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    Nothing will change there and new content always bring new bugs :)
  • TehMagnus
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    Paske wrote: »
    TehMagnus wrote: »
    It will make it run as an American race car since the NA and EU servers are in the US (despite what they say) ;).

    We just checked this yesterday night again and the EU servers have been back to NA for months without ZOS saying anything to the community.

    Which *sarcasm mode off* means that no matter what they do, EU users will continue having latency / lag and ping issues since the servers are in North America. If anyone doesn't believe me, download & install TCPview while the game is running and the launcher is closed and then find the "eso.exe" lines, look at the IP and trace it back to the USA :).


    Interesting.

    I will have to check it out my self.

    It seems the migration did not run so smoothly as anticipated.
    Or Germans simply do not have enough power to run the game properly.

    I understand why they would not disclose this kind of information to general public.

    This explains some issues I been having for a while now.
    Or it could be unrelated.

    Did you do Cyro / PVE test ?
    Because I have better ping in Cyro then PVE. ( insane I know )

    Only PVE testing.

    I have 50-90 ping even while connected to the US IP from France so in any case they have some powerful infra over there and must be paying big bucks for fast connection with Europe, but guild members from other countries like Dubai who used to have 150 ping when server was in Frankfurt now have 300+ ping. We've ran the test many times, many days apart, the server always points to a US IP address owned by Zenimax.

    It all happened after a big patch when there was some downtime (6h+ I think, the one where ZOS said they had encountered some issues). After that server was back in US and we where no longer connecting to a German IP.
  • Ruben
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    I get much better ping in the EU server (100-150) than in the us one (300+). Who cares where it is when it works fine?
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  • Paske
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    I find it interesting that Zeni simply decided not to communicate this information to public after making that whole show about moving EU server to Germany. This gem on technology and we EU players will enjoy better performance - etc.

    On the other hand I got used to disconnects like dog to beating ( local proverb for sh*t happens ).

    Lets hope we will get a real server in EU after update 6 .
  • TehMagnus
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    Ruben wrote: »
    I get much better ping in the EU server (100-150) than in the us one (300+). Who cares where it is when it works fine?

    It is working better, but we still have worse ping than before and people who aren't in Europe itself are the most penalized.

    And ofc there's the fact ZOS didn't communicate about this.
  • Sindala
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    Yes, it will run like a sleek Italian sports car...........one where the car is parked outside showing off but the engine block is in the garage for 12 months. ;)
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  • bertenburnyb16_ESO
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    WhiskyBob wrote: »
    Few people ran packet tracing for more than a few times. Servers are in US. Nothing will change for EU. People will still get disconnected.
    So far the biggest challenge i've had in Sanctum was Disconnecto The Random (boss that kicks random person from the party, usually healer, from game)

    I hate that boss, pls nerf Zos
    TehMagnus wrote: »
    It will make it run as an American race car since the NA and EU servers are in the US (despite what they say) ;).

    an American race car? O.o ... were screwed
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  • Yusuf
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    TehMagnus wrote: »
    Ruben wrote: »
    I get much better ping in the EU server (100-150) than in the us one (300+). Who cares where it is when it works fine?

    It is working better, but we still have worse ping than before and people who aren't in Europe itself are the most penalized.

    And ofc there's the fact ZOS didn't communicate about this.

    That and the ever-increasing b2p-rumors are slowly beginning to freak me out.
  • Aaron0887
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    Yes it will. An Alfa Romeo.

    Anyone who has ever owned an Alfa knows what that means... :wink:
  • Elsonso
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    As of this morning, the EU Megaserver is not in the United States.
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  • Tankqull
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    Paske wrote: »
    TehMagnus wrote: »
    It will make it run as an American race car since the NA and EU servers are in the US (despite what they say) ;).

    We just checked this yesterday night again and the EU servers have been back to NA for months without ZOS saying anything to the community.

    Which *sarcasm mode off* means that no matter what they do, EU users will continue having latency / lag and ping issues since the servers are in North America. If anyone doesn't believe me, download & install TCPview while the game is running and the launcher is closed and then find the "eso.exe" lines, look at the IP and trace it back to the USA :).


    Interesting.

    I will have to check it out my self.

    It seems the migration did not run so smoothly as anticipated.
    Or Germans simply do not have enough power to run the game properly.

    I understand why they would not disclose this kind of information to general public.

    This explains some issues I been having for a while now.
    Or it could be unrelated.

    Did you do Cyro / PVE test ?
    Because I have better ping in Cyro then PVE. ( insane I know )

    did so...
    doesent matter if PvE or PvP for me remoting ZoS server is located in the US...
    ip_zps2679fe13.jpg

    would be nice to get some information wtf is going on ...
    Edited by Tankqull on January 19, 2015 2:10PM
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  • Zershar_Vemod
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    A patch...making this run smooth?

    *insert 1950s laughtrack*
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  • SFBryan18
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    If they did move the EU server back, then maybe they should just combine the two so we have larger populations in places like DC. And I heard EP is the popular choice on EU, so it would be cool for AD and EP from both servers to have to compete with each other.
    Edited by SFBryan18 on January 19, 2015 2:41PM
  • TehMagnus
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Paske wrote: »
    TehMagnus wrote: »
    It will make it run as an American race car since the NA and EU servers are in the US (despite what they say) ;).

    We just checked this yesterday night again and the EU servers have been back to NA for months without ZOS saying anything to the community.

    Which *sarcasm mode off* means that no matter what they do, EU users will continue having latency / lag and ping issues since the servers are in North America. If anyone doesn't believe me, download & install TCPview while the game is running and the launcher is closed and then find the "eso.exe" lines, look at the IP and trace it back to the USA :).


    Interesting.

    I will have to check it out my self.

    It seems the migration did not run so smoothly as anticipated.
    Or Germans simply do not have enough power to run the game properly.

    I understand why they would not disclose this kind of information to general public.

    This explains some issues I been having for a while now.
    Or it could be unrelated.

    Did you do Cyro / PVE test ?
    Because I have better ping in Cyro then PVE. ( insane I know )

    did so...
    doesent matter if PvE or PvP for me remoting ZoS server is located in the US...
    ip_zps2679fe13.jpg

    would be nice to get some information wtf is going on ...

    They probably changed it back to the US because Frankfurt had lots of issues.

    Remember the random freezes we sometimes had in game where the whole game would freeze, you could still move and act as if the game hadn't stoped but after a couple of seconds you where moved back to the location you where when freeze started and you where unfrozen (with an extra chance to get kicked out of the server for "spamming" if you had moved too much or used too many skills during the freeze)?

    Those issues began after the move to Frankfurt and disappeared after the move back to the US, and since virtually nobody must be playing in EU, they thought they'd be ninjas about it and nobody would notice.

    I made this thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/142342/so-eu-servers-where-moved-to-the-us-again#latest when I first noticed but many people came in trolling so hard I thought I might actually be wrong, but I took the time to double check with the appropriate tools and have other members of my guild working in IT who get the same results, so servers are in NA for sure.
    Edited by TehMagnus on January 19, 2015 2:46PM
  • wafcatb14_ESO
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    Ummm No . I don`t think ZOZ has a clue WTF they are doing honsetly. they should rehire the people they laid off the ones that actually coded and set up their game . because it is obvious the people that stayed behind do not know how to fix it .

    Too bad really. and sadly Camelot unchained is 2 years away , but i can`t see playing this while i wait for camelot. its not that good .
  • Elsonso
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    I can see now what the next conspiracy theory rumor will be on the forums.

    "Stealth move by Zenimax returns the EU megaserver to the United States."

    The EU megaserver is in Germany.
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    Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on January 19, 2015 4:33PM
  • trimsic_ESO
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    The average ping time to the IP addresses used by the game is 20 ms from EU.

    20 ms is damned fast and quite unusual when addressing a server located in the USA. So, let's do a trace route; the last part of my trace route is:

    10 35 ms 32 ms 25 ms ae-4-90.edge3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.154.199]
    11 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-4-90.edge3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.154.199]
    12 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms 212.162.9.150
    13 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 195.122.154.4
    14 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 159.100.232.100

    As we don't know much about their network configuration, I would strongly suggest not to jump into conclusions...
    Edited by trimsic_ESO on January 19, 2015 4:55PM
  • ben_ESO5
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    I can see now what the next conspiracy theory rumor will be on the forums.

    "Stealth move by Zenimax returns the EU megaserver to the United States."

    The EU megaserver is in Germany.

    Better yet, let's combine two unfounded rumors. The EU megaserver has been moved back to the US in prep for B2P/F2P.
  • AlexDougherty
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    I'm still waiting for someone to point out that not all European sports cars run smoothly. (In reference to the title)
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