2h/dw stamina dk pvp 1vX build

Warraxx

xylena wrote: »

thanks for the kind words all, hope to see more people trying different builds in general in cyro, perma block cast is the most "optimal" in most cases but it's not the only viable build and no way it's nearly as much fun as bouncing and charging all over the place with a hammer

I'd love to roll with ya in Cyro sometime. whisper me @Warraxx

Chesimac

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

Video or it didn't happen.

PvP on NA and see it happen

Nutronic

Bumping this post/build because it sounds awesome and Whitestrake's is a very under appreciated set.

tinythinker

Nutronic wrote: »

Bumping this post/build because it sounds awesome and Whitestrake's is a very under appreciated set.

Is it affected at all by 1.6? Haven't kept up with changes to set bonuses on the current PTS version.

LegendaryMage

I remember a stamina DK on the PTS a month or so ago who just wouldn't die, is that you by any chance? I can almost bet my life that's you! Maybe I'm confusing you with someone else, don't mind me please, I'm EU and don't know many NA players.

Fatalyis

tinythinker wrote: »

Nutronic wrote: »

Bumping this post/build because it sounds awesome and Whitestrake's is a very under appreciated set.

Is it affected at all by 1.6? Haven't kept up with changes to set bonuses on the current PTS version.

I dueled Xylena on the PTS with my Magicka NB and I can attest (at least from my experience) that it is effective. I was able to beat Xylena the first round (thanks Shadow Cloak for not bugging out!), but then the second round I got my tail handed to me.

MormondPayne_EP

Yep, Xylena is a wrecking machine, I've run with her for a long time. I just follow behind in her wake of dead bodies to the left and right.

xylena

@LegendaryMage yep that was me, i remember that duel going on for quite a while, was one of the most fun fights i've had!

my build is going to change a bit in 1.6 in a few key ways, i'll eventually post a 1.6 build when it evolves into something that seems worth sharing...

(1) since ulti gen requires light/heavy attacks, i will no longer be able to use steel tornado, flying blade, and siege engines to generate ulti in ranged combat... this means i'll be going full bowtato (2h/bow) in 1.6 giving out a lifetime supply of free poison

(2) the removal of soft caps, rebalancing of gear bonuses versus enchants, and weak nord stats mean i need to spec as much into stamina and stam regen as possible with my gear bonuses, so seducer is definitely out... i will likely continue to use whitestrake for survival, and try to grab some stamina from the darkstride set, or some regen from a 4th shadow walker piece, or a 2pc monster set... mundus will likely be the tower for max stamina

(3) changes to ability balance and mechanics has me looking at using brawler and wrecking blow on my 2h bar, replacing rally with vigor, wondering if ash cloud is still viable in 1.6 form, and figuring out whether unstable flame works as well in AvA as it does in duels

Nutronic

I'd like to join you in testing this out if possible. I wanted to adapt parts of your build to my own Stam Sorc build.

I have to ask though, what will you be using as a self-heal? GDB on your bow bar or something else entirely?

xylena

@nutronic feel free to add me @xylena_lazarow in game

igneous shield + rally works better for me than GDB, and since pots give the same buff as GDB in 1.6 there's even less reason to use it... i'll probably switch out rally for vigor since i have assault/support 10... it's a stronger heal and the wep power buff can come from stam pots

LegendaryMage

Xylena, we're dueling now on the pts, if you could come and ping your fellow NA duelers, that would be great. We're lacking people.

Sorry for the offtopic!

daswahnsinn

This helped me out in a way, in I use a similar playing style. I use 5m/2h 5pc Hunding's, 4pc Ravager, 3pc Ashen. Dual wield and sword/board. I think I need to change how I have my Attribute points though since I'm at 1100/3900/2000 m/h/s. I built this hoping it would work good on 1.6, but not so sure as of now. I can't remember how I have my bars setup, but the thing I forget about in weaving in the heavy attacks. I mainly try to do large group damage instead of soloing. If anyone can lend some wisdom that would be great.

Panda244

Giving away your secrets Xylena?

It's a nasty build, but her far enough away from you and it'll be alright, or you can grab a friend and chase her to the ends of the earth!

Ghostbane

xylena wrote: »

@LegendaryMage yep that was me, i remember that duel going on for quite a while, was one of the most fun fights i've had!

my build is going to change a bit in 1.6 in a few key ways, i'll eventually post a 1.6 build when it evolves into something that seems worth sharing...

(1) since ulti gen requires light/heavy attacks, i will no longer be able to use steel tornado, flying blade, and siege engines to generate ulti in ranged combat... this means i'll be going full bowtato (2h/bow) in 1.6 giving out a lifetime supply of free poison

(2) the removal of soft caps, rebalancing of gear bonuses versus enchants, and weak nord stats mean i need to spec as much into stamina and stam regen as possible with my gear bonuses, so seducer is definitely out... i will likely continue to use whitestrake for survival, and try to grab some stamina from the darkstride set, or some regen from a 4th shadow walker piece, or a 2pc monster set... mundus will likely be the tower for max stamina

(3) changes to ability balance and mechanics has me looking at using brawler and wrecking blow on my 2h bar, replacing rally with vigor, wondering if ash cloud is still viable in 1.6 form, and figuring out whether unstable flame works as well in AvA as it does in duels

#1, I've been working out 2H/Bow the past few weeks on my DK, it is definitely a viable route. Master Weapons make it even more viable.
#2, Would you not consider all 5 Shadow Walker pieces?
#3, Unstable Flame on stam is so worth it, if you can fit it into your 2H bar.

Keep up the good work for Stam DKs! Pity on dropping the Duel Wield, you are a beast with those.

Gooey

I award you the title "Ezareth of DKs"

Panda244

Come 1.6 I may rummage through my bank and try out a Stamina build on Crassus for a little while, I'd never go Stamina NB because they're boring and I'd prefer to go balls deep into a large blob of enemies and Sap Tank them until someone starts spamming heal debuffs on me. But I was thinking for Crassus.... Stick with the usual S&B gameplay with Two-handed on the offbar.

• 2 Set Shadow Walker
• Rings: Enchanted with Weapon Damage
• 5 Set Twin Sisters
• Five Medium Armor: Enchanted with Stamina/Health
• 2 Set Bloodspawn
• One Light, One Heavy: Enchanted with Stamina/Health
• 3 Set Dominion's Potentate
• Sword, Shield, Necklace: Enchanted with Disease/Stamina/Reduce Cost of Stamina Abilities

[Bar One]:
Unstable Flame - Reverberating Bash - Burning Breath - Crippling Slash - Absorb Magic - Corrosive Armor
[Bar Two]:
Green Dragon's Blood - Critical Rush - Rally - Carve - Volatile Armor - Ice Comet

Edit: Will probably use Dual Wield instead of 2H, swap out Crit Rush with Flying Blade, Rally with Blood Craze, Carve with Deadly Cloak.

Basically wear down your opponent with a boat-load of DoTs and swap to 2H bar if you need to beat them senseless, was going to use the Dominion's Greatsword for it's absurdly overpowered armor reduction enchantment. So Reverberating Bash for the heal debuff, then Unstable Flame, Burning Breath, Twin Sisters, Volatile Armor, Carve, all DoTs, Absorb Magic up at all times for the nice burst heal it gives, Crippling Slash so they can't run away, and the additional ultimate gain, same reason for Carve, DoT and ultimate gain, Rally for HoT and GDB for actual heal, 2 Piece Bloodspawn for the Ultimate gain and stamina regeneration, Twin Sisters for DoT and stamina boosts. Dominion's Potentate for the reduced Ultimate cost and Stamina regeneration, Shadow Walker for the damage boost, might swap out the 2H on offbar for something else, definitely not Bow, not in a million years will I use a Bow, I won't stoop that low, maybe another Sword/Board, who knows

Oughash

Panda244 wrote: »

Come 1.6 I may rummage through my bank and try out a Stamina build on Crassus for a little while, I'd never go Stamina NB because they're boring and I'd prefer to go balls deep into a large blob of enemies and Sap Tank them until someone starts spamming heal debuffs on me. But I was thinking for Crassus.... Stick with the usual S&B gameplay with Two-handed on the offbar.

• 2 Set Shadow Walker
• Rings: Enchanted with Weapon Damage
• 5 Set Twin Sisters
• Five Medium Armor: Enchanted with Stamina/Health
• 2 Set Bloodspawn
• One Light, One Heavy: Enchanted with Stamina/Health
• 3 Set Dominion's Potentate
• Sword, Shield, Necklace: Enchanted with Disease/Stamina/Reduce Cost of Stamina Abilities

[Bar One]:
Unstable Flame - Reverberating Bash - Burning Breath - Crippling Slash - Absorb Magic - Corrosive Armor
[Bar Two]:
Green Dragon's Blood - Critical Rush - Rally - Carve - Volatile Armor - Ice Comet

Edit: Will probably use Dual Wield instead of 2H, swap out Crit Rush with Flying Blade, Rally with Blood Craze, Carve with Deadly Cloak.

Basically wear down your opponent with a boat-load of DoTs and swap to 2H bar if you need to beat them senseless, was going to use the Dominion's Greatsword for it's absurdly overpowered armor reduction enchantment. So Reverberating Bash for the heal debuff, then Unstable Flame, Burning Breath, Twin Sisters, Volatile Armor, Carve, all DoTs, Absorb Magic up at all times for the nice burst heal it gives, Crippling Slash so they can't run away, and the additional ultimate gain, same reason for Carve, DoT and ultimate gain, Rally for HoT and GDB for actual heal, 2 Piece Bloodspawn for the Ultimate gain and stamina regeneration, Twin Sisters for DoT and stamina boosts. Dominion's Potentate for the reduced Ultimate cost and Stamina regeneration, Shadow Walker for the damage boost, might swap out the 2H on offbar for something else, definitely not Bow, not in a million years will I use a Bow, I won't stoop that low, maybe another Sword/Board, who knows

This is pretty close to what I'm looking at for DK in 1.6. Here is my variation:
4x Morag Tong
4x Hawk's Eye
2x BloodSpawn (or Valkyn Skoria if you have it)

The above armor sets give you 3x Stamina and 3x Weapon Dmg set bonuses, plus the gravy that is BloodSpawn. Probably The Tower for mundus -- The Warrior, of course, is a nice choice. I like the Tower for flexibility of having more stamina (also, 1280 Stamina isn't that much less damage than 140 weapon dmg).

Now your weapon choices are pretty free. You can go 2H/Bow easily if you have master's weapons (I don't). I like 1h/s + DW for the flexibility and surviveability in group play with the extra set bonus. Caltrops + Steel Tornado is a monster. You can also drop the Morag Tong Amulet and go for 3x Potentate. I haven't decided which is better.

Finally, your magicka dump should almost exclusively be from the Earthen Heart skill line for the 5% stamina return and Ultimate generation. When you have ~25k stamina, 5% is 1250! So that means Igneous Shield, Obsidian Shard, and/or Eruption. Flappity Flaps is still good, too. Finally, Vigor+Igneous is better (a monster heal, actually) than GDB b/c you can get the stamina regen bonus from potions as mentioned above.

EDIT: I am also considering vampire for the build. 10% stam and mag regen is nice -- Devouring Swarm is an excellent ultimate choice considering the changes to Standard of Might. And mist form is nice utility.

Panda244

Ishammael wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Come 1.6 I may rummage through my bank and try out a Stamina build on Crassus for a little while, I'd never go Stamina NB because they're boring and I'd prefer to go balls deep into a large blob of enemies and Sap Tank them until someone starts spamming heal debuffs on me. But I was thinking for Crassus.... Stick with the usual S&B gameplay with Two-handed on the offbar.

• 2 Set Shadow Walker
• Rings: Enchanted with Weapon Damage
• 5 Set Twin Sisters
• Five Medium Armor: Enchanted with Stamina/Health
• 2 Set Bloodspawn
• One Light, One Heavy: Enchanted with Stamina/Health
• 3 Set Dominion's Potentate
• Sword, Shield, Necklace: Enchanted with Disease/Stamina/Reduce Cost of Stamina Abilities

[Bar One]:
Unstable Flame - Reverberating Bash - Burning Breath - Crippling Slash - Absorb Magic - Corrosive Armor
[Bar Two]:
Green Dragon's Blood - Critical Rush - Rally - Carve - Volatile Armor - Ice Comet

Edit: Will probably use Dual Wield instead of 2H, swap out Crit Rush with Flying Blade, Rally with Blood Craze, Carve with Deadly Cloak.

Basically wear down your opponent with a boat-load of DoTs and swap to 2H bar if you need to beat them senseless, was going to use the Dominion's Greatsword for it's absurdly overpowered armor reduction enchantment. So Reverberating Bash for the heal debuff, then Unstable Flame, Burning Breath, Twin Sisters, Volatile Armor, Carve, all DoTs, Absorb Magic up at all times for the nice burst heal it gives, Crippling Slash so they can't run away, and the additional ultimate gain, same reason for Carve, DoT and ultimate gain, Rally for HoT and GDB for actual heal, 2 Piece Bloodspawn for the Ultimate gain and stamina regeneration, Twin Sisters for DoT and stamina boosts. Dominion's Potentate for the reduced Ultimate cost and Stamina regeneration, Shadow Walker for the damage boost, might swap out the 2H on offbar for something else, definitely not Bow, not in a million years will I use a Bow, I won't stoop that low, maybe another Sword/Board, who knows

This is pretty close to what I'm looking at for DK in 1.6. Here is my variation:
4x Morag Tong
4x Hawk's Eye
2x BloodSpawn (or Valkyn Skoria if you have it)

The above armor sets give you 3x Stamina and 3x Weapon Dmg set bonuses, plus the gravy that is BloodSpawn. Probably The Tower for mundus -- The Warrior, of course, is a nice choice. I like the Tower for flexibility of having more stamina (also, 1280 Stamina isn't that much less damage than 140 weapon dmg).

Now your weapon choices are pretty free. You can go 2H/Bow easily if you have master's weapons (I don't). I like 1h/s + DW for the flexibility and surviveability in group play with the extra set bonus. Caltrops + Steel Tornado is a monster. You can also drop the Morag Tong Amulet and go for 3x Potentate. I haven't decided which is better.

Finally, your magicka dump should almost exclusively be from the Earthen Heart skill line for the 5% stamina return and Ultimate generation. When you have ~25k stamina, 5% is 1250! So that means Igneous Shield, Obsidian Shard, and/or Eruption. Flappity Flaps is still good, too. Finally, Vigor+Igneous is better (a monster heal, actually) than GDB b/c you can get the stamina regen bonus from potions as mentioned above.

EDIT: I am also considering vampire for the build. 10% stam and mag regen is nice -- Devouring Swarm is an excellent ultimate choice considering the changes to Standard of Might. And mist form is nice utility.

I'll never go vampire, simply because of the stereotype, and in my opinion, vampire is a crutch, you can no longer spam Devouring Swarm which is really the only reason Vampire was any good, the regen is nice yes, but you get 15% stam regen as a werewolf, and no negative effects, mist form is nice as well, and utterly useless for getting away from combat

The rest of your build sounds interesting, I'd say go 3 Potentates because Ultimate reduction is a must in 1.6, I'll eventually replace GDB with vigor once I get it, the only magicka abilities I'd ever use as a Stamina DK would be Flappy flap or Obsidian Shard, for the knockdown effect, and of course GDB, until I get vigor. For Mundus, haven't decided yet, probably Tower, if not, then Warrior or Lord.

Zenjiitsu

Hello, i'm seen a lot of people on forum say you so OP , tell me please about your build. What armor, weapons(Traits, enchantmenst, set name) you use? What mundus stone to use. Skill build. Champion points. And how to play with those build
I'm find you build at Januyary 2015, but they are 1.5 Outdated.
Please

krim

Wait wut? stam build before 1.6?

Zenjiitsu

krim wrote: »

Wait wut? stam build before 1.6?

Xylena play on PTS with stamina build, this build for PTS(Outdated)

Turtl3Lov3

Zenjiitsu wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Wait wut? stam build before 1.6?

Xylena play on PTS with stamina build, this build for PTS(Outdated)

Sounds imaginary to me, everyone knows Xylena was and always will be a magicka DK.

Zenjiitsu

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

Zenjiitsu wrote: »

krim wrote: »

Wait wut? stam build before 1.6?

Xylena play on PTS with stamina build, this build for PTS(Outdated)

Sounds imaginary to me, everyone knows Xylena was and always will be a magicka DK.

lol? I'm thinking she play on stamina build, 2h/dw with stamina skills... Maybe i'm wrong

heystreethawk

xylena

haven't been playing much but here's a rundown of my 2.2 build...

armor - 5pcs hundings rage, 2pcs nights silence... all stam enchants, 6m/1h or 5m/1h/1l for undaunted 9 bonus... replace one of the nights silence with molag kena 1pc if you have it for extra dmg... infused trait on big pieces and impen on small pieces for pvp, or all impen for dedicated pvp

jewelry - 3pcs either agility or endurance, robust trait on all... wep dmg enchants on all

weps - 2h nights silence with precise trait and wep dmg enchant, dw daggers nights silence with precise trait and either wep dmg enchants or disease enchants

attributes - use blue health/stam max stat food, dump all attributes into stamina, warrior or serpent mundus depending on how much sustain you need

CP - red: split 40/40/40 into the resistances in the lady for defense and unchained passive, put the rest into quick recovery... green: split warlord for stam cost reduction and mooncalf for stam regen... blue: split blessed for healing buff and mighty for physical dmg buff

numbers - gonna vary based on your CP and race, but aim for at least 9k magic 24k pvp health 30k stam... health and magic regen don't matter, aim for at least 1.4k stam regen (you can get away with lower stam regen on dk thanks to the earthen heart passives)... wep dmg should be over 3k when buffed

2h skills - unstable flame, stampede, wrecking blow, igneous shield, forward momentum, take flight ultimate
dw skills - steel tornado, flying blade, blood craze, reflect, vigor, shifting standard or corrosive armor ultimate

Poxheart

Commenting so I can find this thread again later...

KenaPKK

Xylenaaaa where have you been my dear? I miss seeing you on the battlefield!

xylena

i'm taking a break from eso until the next patch, i check forums sometimes to see how things are going

Zenjiitsu

xylena wrote: »

haven't been playing much but here's a rundown of my 2.2 build...

armor - 5pcs hundings rage, 2pcs nights silence... all stam enchants, 6m/1h or 5m/1h/1l for undaunted 9 bonus... replace one of the nights silence with molag kena 1pc if you have it for extra dmg... infused trait on big pieces and impen on small pieces for pvp, or all impen for dedicated pvp

jewelry - 3pcs either agility or endurance, robust trait on all... wep dmg enchants on all

weps - 2h nights silence with precise trait and wep dmg enchant, dw daggers nights silence with precise trait and either wep dmg enchants or disease enchants

attributes - use blue health/stam max stat food, dump all attributes into stamina, warrior or serpent mundus depending on how much sustain you need

CP - red: split 40/40/40 into the resistances in the lady for defense and unchained passive, put the rest into quick recovery... green: split warlord for stam cost reduction and mooncalf for stam regen... blue: split blessed for healing buff and mighty for physical dmg buff

numbers - gonna vary based on your CP and race, but aim for at least 9k magic 24k pvp health 30k stam... health and magic regen don't matter, aim for at least 1.4k stam regen (you can get away with lower stam regen on dk thanks to the earthen heart passives)... wep dmg should be over 3k when buffed

2h skills - unstable flame, stampede, wrecking blow, igneous shield, forward momentum, take flight ultimate
dw skills - steel tornado, flying blade, blood craze, reflect, vigor, shifting standard or corrosive armor ultimate

do you play with this build? Are they good? Maybe Rally instead of Forward momentum?? Or vigor enought?

xylena

do you play with this build? Are they good? Maybe Rally instead of Forward momentum?? Or vigor enought?

yeah some variation of this has been my build since 2.1 PTS... i've tried a number of different 5pc sets as well as going 5h 2m on the armor for things like black rose or reactive... but nothing has been better than the huge buff to your damage and self heals that medium hundings gives you...

crit on the self heals is so good that i dropped rally for the mobility of forward momentum, this build laughs at CC, the only thing that kills it is to avoid enough wrecking blows to out-dps it with another stam build, but even without without landing wb you can put a lot of pressure on your opponents with the dots of unstable flame, blood craze, and a 2h axe... and the constant snare and 3-5k dmg from flying blade and stampede... and steelnado not just for 1vX but also to hit cloak spammers

when something really needs to die though, tank their damage and cc with igneous shield + forward momentum + vigor, and spam that wrecking blow until you can get a wrecking leap combo for the kill