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Nightblade Stealth

  • killingspreeb16_ESO
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    Cloak shouldn't make u immune to damage, that would be really dumb... u should receive all damage... AOE, direct target ranged, melee etc... it just shouldn't break your invis...



    I'd say Cloak is pretty darn powerful already.

    no is not,is not reliable at all....mage light and aoe are alredy a good counter to it and the skill still have many bug,(seem more you don't like this skill)even a sorc who blink away from 20+ people is boring to play against but is their defensive skill like cloak is for NB the difference is blink work properly.
    (sorry for bad grammar and english)
  • LegacyDM
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    Cloak shouldn't make u immune to damage, that would be really dumb... u should receive all damage... AOE, direct target ranged, melee etc... it just shouldn't break your invis...

    That's still overly powerful.

    Damage, particularly AoEs, are the only reliable way to counter Invis. Things like mage light and detection pots don't work well at range because they have a radial limit. So you're pretty much left with DoTs (if they didn't pick Dark Cloak), AoE's to the location they went invisible, or Daedric Curse (which you'd need to apply before they disappear.)

    Not a lot of options and certainly leaves enough wiggle room for skilled NBs to escape.

    Again, I saw 3 dudes taunt and frustrate about 24 EP for something like 25 minutes.

    I'd say Cloak is pretty darn powerful already.

    Sure they weren't using invis pots? I've seen a lot of people frustrate groups by using invis pots, but never cloak. Have you even played a NB that tries to use cloak to escape with projectiles and crushing shock spamming everywhere?!
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  • Hortator Mopa
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    Damage should not break your invisible status. Skill is useless, fix it already.

    I dont even bother using it now haha....
  • Cody
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    Try fighting high lvl bosses with it, it immediately de-activates on activation. it's BS
  • Hortator Mopa
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    Cody wrote: »
    Try fighting high lvl bosses with it, it immediately de-activates on activation. it's BS

  • Vizier
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    Projectiles already fired are supposed to miss when you cloak. If that is not happening it's a bug. ZoS has already stated projectiles are to miss once you cloak.

    That said some effects still hit and cloak is trumped by 3 plants or a little itsy bitsy lamp that cost next to nothing.

    The cost of cloak should be greatly reduced or make it trump this other "stealth" defeating meausures and they should defeat stealth but not cloak.

    Just wait until half the player population are sporting the AOE stealth revealing flare. (as if there aren't enough abilities available that break stealth) It very well could make being a stealthy NB worthless. Some ZoS dev prolly got owned by a good NB and this is their way of "fixing" the class.

    If the Anti-stealth flare and returning FC's are as bad as I fear they will be it will be the first time since launch I decide the game isn't worth subbing for. Hate to say it but...
    Edited by Vizier on January 11, 2015 6:34AM
  • NordJitsu
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    Cody wrote: »
    Try fighting high lvl bosses with it, it immediately de-activates on activation. it's BS

    It's not BS, it's intentional.

    It didn't used to be like that but then people did this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNESCiD5Wt0

    Nightblades with Cloak were able to solo all of the VR content in the game.
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  • LegacyDM
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    Vizier wrote: »
    Projectiles already fired are supposed to miss when you cloak. If that is not happening it's a bug. ZoS has already stated projectiles are to miss once you cloak.

    That said some effects still hit and cloak is trumped by 3 plants or a little itsy bitsy lamp that cost next to nothing.

    The cost of cloak should be greatly reduced or make it trump this other "stealth" defeating meausures and they should defeat stealth but not cloak.

    Just wait until half the player population are sporting the AOE stealth revealing flare. (as if there aren't enough abilities available that break stealth) It very well could make being a stealthy NB worthless. Some ZoS dev prolly got owned by a good NB and this is their way of "fixing" the class.

    If the Anti-stealth flare and returning FC's are as bad as I fear they will be it will be the first time since launch I decide the game isn't worth subbing for. Hate to say it but...

    WTH do they need to implement AOE flares for when people can just quaff a detect invis potion?! Your spot on your assessment. I have no clue why ZoS is so hell bent on destroying any semblance of a stealthy duel wield assassin play style, forcing everyone to play sword and board SAP.
    Edited by LegacyDM on January 11, 2015 6:42AM
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  • AlexDougherty
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    Cloak shouldn't make u immune to damage, that would be really dumb... u should receive all damage... AOE, direct target ranged, melee etc... it just shouldn't break your invis...



    I'd say Cloak is pretty darn powerful already.

    no is not,is not reliable at all....mage light and aoe are alredy a good counter to it and the skill still have many bug,(seem more you don't like this skill)even a sorc who blink away from 20+ people is boring to play against but is their defensive skill like cloak is for NB the difference is blink work properly.
    (sorry for bad grammar and english)

    Agreed, it's unreliable, and is supposed to be the cornerstone of the nightblade.

    It plain simply needs fixing, if it becomes to powerful they can rebalance the class, but the cloak needs fixing.
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  • DDuke
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    Part 2 of my tests, this time on enemy players:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3lHPj5SXAU&feature=youtu.be
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