Why is Dragon leaping into keeps a thing?

JDar

I like Dragon Leap. It's hilarious. One battle there was a rock climbing competition outside Faregyl on the farm side.There's this one big rock there that I think you can do it from. DK's from both sides were flying back and forth while snipers tried to pick them off. Pretty awesome.

Asgari

Please nerf streak distance because they can do this in some place too. Oh and Ambush also because it can do this... Oh and Werewolves as well can do this .. Nerf it ALL!!!!

AhPook_Is_Here

Actually they can fix it. The one that is bugged is the one that costs more and has spell resist, the low cost, longer distance version can't make the leap on the z axis.

Obviously it is a bug, but not as serious as other bugs since you shouldn't be able to use this to get a scroll now, and one dk on a wall of defenders isn't the most serious of threats.

ZOS_UlyssesW

Hi there, folks.

We've had to remove several comments from this thread because they derailed the discussion. On a related note, we'd like to remind everyone that we do not allow for trolling or baiting on the ESO forums.

We invite everyone to take a moment to review our Forum Code of Conduct. Thank you for your understanding.

Mukuro

The AD of Hadeus have an EP alt they log in so they can leap onto keeps all the time...

frozywozy

AD cry about the DK who was able to dragon leap and ninja the scroll with the bad latency, but no one talk about AD repairing the wall with 20 EP next to them unable to attack or interrupt them 3times in a row until we finally got in for real and cleared the courtyard.

Lfehova

Gaettusk wrote: »

April wrote: »

Gaettusk wrote: »

April wrote: »

Gaettusk wrote: »

If you stand on the inner wall and /wave at a DK targetting you from an outer tower, then you deserve to get leapt on. Sad this is--he was a VR14 AD

Actually, I wasn't waving at you. Yes, I am the person you jumped on (I was on my Templar at the time). I was talking to a friend in NM about the lag and looked out and saw him on top of the tower. I told him as much and he waved at me so I waved back. Then suddenly you just materialized on the edge of the tower a few feet from them. I have no idea how you got there without anybody seeing you but from my point of view it was like you just appeared out of thin air. There was another player standing next to the scroll that never saw you while you were taking it either, so I don't know if it was a lag thing or what that was making it seem like you were vanishing and reappearing. I also have no idea how you got a leap to work in that lag when nothing else was working. I certainly couldn't damage you once you got inside. It was a cheap move but wtf can you do. Stuff like that will keep happening until ZOS fixes the lag.

I leapt on Ysmira to get inside and steal the scroll? Score! Btw, I heard stealthing makes players not visible.

I mean I don't understand how you were able to get through all the blues without them seeing you. Or how the person standing next to the scroll couldn't see you when you were taking it. You also disappeared for me again once you were inside and at the top of the stairs on the top floor. I couldn't see you anymore after that so I was just yelling out for other people to look for you. Like I said, I guess it was a lag thing.

It was me stealthing a lot before getting inside, then running fast as hell to get out of the keep, dodge rolling the shield charge spam from DC as I went. People saw me, but you didnt because I dipped as soon as I got in. Btw, guards dont aggro if you jump down into the scroll area.

Hilarious. But a few things I'd like to point out.

1. How the hell did you dragonleap if it was lagging? 10/10 times anybody I know has tried to dragonleap while it was lagging has become a stone gargoyle wings half-mast.

2. The guards most definitely aggro if there is no lag. I've done the same thing on multiple occasions and the back flag mage guard and archer aggro as well as the healer and archer from front flag. You generally have to kill those NPCs first before taking the scroll.

3. I'm pretty sure an AD player cannot see an EP player if the DC players are the ones revealing him from stealth, since AD players do not share vision with DC players. This explains the invisibility when leaping in.

4. There is no way you should be invisible inside the keep once near the scroll because of the auto reveal proximity of guards.

5. I don't care who has our DC scroll, just try to keep the horrendous lag to a minimum thanks!

OrangeTheCat

Well, if it is a "thing", then this seems appropriate: abuse it and expect to lose it.

Gorthax

Rylana wrote: »

Because it amuses me to no end just how pathetic players are who will never fight you from anything but the safety of a wall or keep.

So I jump up and slaughter them for being wimps.

Like literally, people just run, and if i jump onto an outer wall, guess what happens, the weaklings run like scared little rats and start plink plinking me with lolsnipe from the INNER.

Spoken like a TRUE DK! "nothing affects me..RAWR!!!!"

eventide03b14a_ESO

I'm pretty sure they are already working on fixing this. I remember reading that they are altering terrain to prevent this.

Gaettusk

Lfehova wrote: »

Hilarious. But a few things I'd like to point out.

1. How the hell did you dragonleap if it was lagging? 10/10 times anybody I know has tried to dragonleap while it was lagging has become a stone gargoyle wings half-mast.

2. The guards most definitely aggro if there is no lag. I've done the same thing on multiple occasions and the back flag mage guard and archer aggro as well as the healer and archer from front flag. You generally have to kill those NPCs first before taking the scroll.

3. I'm pretty sure an AD player cannot see an EP player if the DC players are the ones revealing him from stealth, since AD players do not share vision with DC players. This explains the invisibility when leaping in.

4. There is no way you should be invisible inside the keep once near the scroll because of the auto reveal proximity of guards.

5. I don't care who has our DC scroll, just try to keep the horrendous lag to a minimum thanks!

Brova,

1. Ysmira stood still and out in the open for about a minute straight. I did have the wings half mast(posted a SS of it in "Thornblade Lag), but I stood still and they miraculously worked after a minute.
2. I jumped down from the top floor down onto the scroll platform. All alive Npcs were far out of aggro range. There could have been missing guards because of the DC siegers killing some prior, but lag only kept AD from putting me in combat. Never had the chance to do this before, so I assume I got lucky with guards being gone/dead.
3. I kept dodge roll spamming and reapproaching the tower unstealthed. Your guildies(stg sorc, prett, and Mrs Jones) were roasting wienies on top of the only tower set for a jump. I didnt want to risk dying to aoe going through the lag.
4. I wasn't invisible inside the keep: that's just AD trying to save face. How can you lose track of a solo dragon-leaper when there were 10+ AD on top of that inner? I had 5 of those AD trying to attack me while I picked up the scroll, and thankfully, the other 60ish AD inside the keep were oblivious. Ironic that the lag they expected to protect the scroll is what caused them to lose it.
5. My lucky stunt prevented AD lagging DC for days via stacking on your scroll. You're welcome. Also, *** nightcapping AD.

DezIsDead

Gaettusk wrote: »

Lfehova wrote: »

Hilarious. But a few things I'd like to point out.

1. How the hell did you dragonleap if it was lagging? 10/10 times anybody I know has tried to dragonleap while it was lagging has become a stone gargoyle wings half-mast.

2. The guards most definitely aggro if there is no lag. I've done the same thing on multiple occasions and the back flag mage guard and archer aggro as well as the healer and archer from front flag. You generally have to kill those NPCs first before taking the scroll.

3. I'm pretty sure an AD player cannot see an EP player if the DC players are the ones revealing him from stealth, since AD players do not share vision with DC players. This explains the invisibility when leaping in.

4. There is no way you should be invisible inside the keep once near the scroll because of the auto reveal proximity of guards.

5. I don't care who has our DC scroll, just try to keep the horrendous lag to a minimum thanks!

Brova,

1. Ysmira stood still and out in the open for about a minute straight. I did have the wings half mast(posted a SS of it in "Thornblade Lag), but I stood still and they miraculously worked after a minute.
2. I jumped down from the top floor down onto the scroll platform. All alive Npcs were far out of aggro range. There could have been missing guards because of the DC siegers killing some prior, but lag only kept AD from putting me in combat. Never had the chance to do this before, so I assume I got lucky with guards being gone/dead.
3. I kept dodge roll spamming and reapproaching the tower unstealthed. Your guildies(stg sorc, prett, and Mrs Jones) were roasting wienies on top of the only tower set for a jump. I didnt want to risk dying to aoe going through the lag.
4. I wasn't invisible inside the keep: that's just AD trying to save face. How can you lose track of a solo dragon-leaper when there were 10+ AD on top of that inner? I had 5 of those AD trying to attack me while I picked up the scroll, and thankfully, the other 60ish AD inside the keep were oblivious. Ironic that the lag they expected to protect the scroll is what caused them to lose it.
5. My lucky stunt prevented AD lagging DC for days via stacking on your scroll. You're welcome. Also, *** nightcapping AD.

yeah, someone in zone said they saw you by the scroll and was trying to hit you. You most definately were not invisible inside. however idk why they didnt tell everyone inside the keep why you were there. Also its not like we were trying to lag the scroll, we had what one or two keeps at the time? Plus EP and DC forces? Same thing happens every time you guys turtled at Arrius when you had the DC scroll.

badmojo

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Please nerf streak distance because they can do this in some place too. Oh and Ambush also because it can do this... Oh and Werewolves as well can do this .. Nerf it ALL!!!!

Exactly my point. If they nerf'ed chains in the name of preventing this tactic, then every skill that can do it should also be nerfed. Or revert chains back and let the chips fall where they may, I really don't care, I just want consistency.