Grouping Tool Still Useless

vedinthorn83b16_ESO

At various times I have attempted to use the grouping tool both before and since Update 5. Very very rarely has it been faster than spamming Zone chat for putting a group together of any kind. With Update 5 I was really hoping it would be a little easier to find a group with it since dungeon scaling was introduced. The opposite has been the case.

While before it was difficult to find more than one player for any given dungeon at any given level, it is now seemingly totally impossible. I sat in it today as a VR1 looking for the daily Pledge normal mode for probably 2 hours and it didn't once pair me with anyone. I assume the problem is two-fold:

1) It's a nearly useless tool for reasons I don't understand causing it to be bad at matching players
2) Because of 1 people just don't use it making it even more useless.

In my mind the tool should pair you instantly with anyone available who is level appropriate and fills any of the roles you're looking for across the entire Megaserver. If that's how it works, then I don't know why people aren't using it at all,

Not to invoke the Godwin's Law of MMOs, but World of Warcraft's grouping system was almost instant if you had any one of the more rare roles already filled when looking for a group. I tank and I heal, and DPS are a dime a dozen, so I'm just baffled as to why this is still an issue.

It really shouldn't take the average player more than 20 minutes to totally fill out a 4 man PUG, and the idea that they should do so while spamming Zone chat is just awful. I really like this game, but I like it a lot more when I can play with other people, and it's just not been easy to do it even inside of very active guilds and with the tools and incentives available for grouping.

zZzleepyhead

Agreed. I have seen no LFG improvements. I have still yet to find a group with the tool even if its one of the enclave pledges. Does anyone know what was improved with update 5?

HeroOfNone

Put up a topic on the main forum with some suggested improvements, a couple things like seeing who is available so you can give an invite, allowing queuing for multiple dungeons, and other improvements would really help with the trouble of finding a group, and a lot of it is common sense solutions found in other MMOs.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/139864/suggestion-improvement-to-the-party-search-function

fiftypercentgrey

AGREED.
why is this so damn hard? ppl want to group without making a fuss and spamming everyone else in /zone.

Darthryan

It doesn't work at all. Me and another person tried it and it wouldn't group us together or actually group you with anyone. So yea it does not work at all.

fiftypercentgrey

It did work for me while leveling up. It was awfully slow, though. Plus: the interface is totally NOT intuitive (marking yourself as a healer/tank/dps for example).
On a megaserver it should be MUCH easier to find a group.

There should be options to perform multiple groupsearches at the same time, too. For example:

1. looking for any group for any vet dungeon
2. looking for any group around my level OR LOWER doing that specific dungeon (that I missed)

wafcatb14_ESO

Shouldn`t really need a grouping system there are only a few group instanced dung in game, the majority of the dung are solo and a public dung now and than .

Untill you reach lvl cap the entire game is a solo aoe fest in which almost no one groups because the majority of the content is trival. and can be done solo.

Ive nerver played a MMO for the awesome story, or the solo content , that`s what single player RPG are for, I play a MMO to quest and do stuff with friends and guildies.
This is the most anti social MMO i`ve seen since 1999. whole game up untill lvl cap is soloble and feels like a single player co-op. then they add some actual group content. but people are even whining about that ooonoes I have to group up in a MMO lol .

Sadly nothing else coming out in the near future that looks good . maybe a year or 2 down the road, something decent will release .

Madamova

Is anyone actually still using the grouping tool?! Yesterday I spent an hour waiting for group to do a daily pledge... to no avail. Since they implemented daily pledges you'd think there would be plenty of people out there LFGing. But at the moment it feels like no one using the grouping tool at all - and it makes me feel all alone and lonely in Tamriel

Neryaz

agreed it feels even more useless now

Morrighan_Ravenborn

Agreed. It is 100% useless. As much as I love the graphics, ambience & story line of the game, the MMO side of it is a massive failure. To continue enjoying it, I've had to just think of it as a solo game.

Qyrk

They're possibly doing a fix coming this monday, 1.5.6

Tanis-Stormbinder

I've giving up using the LFG tool. Still holding out hope for 1.5.6 until then spamming chat.

Rosveen

Question: is the tool alliance or zone-wide?

fiftypercentgrey

Qyrk wrote: »

They're possibly doing a fix coming this monday, 1.5.6

how likely is that? did they make an announcement or something like that?

Qyrk

fiftypercentgrey wrote: »

Qyrk wrote: »

They're possibly doing a fix coming this monday, 1.5.6

how likely is that? did they make an announcement or something like that?

@fiftypercentgrey‌

Kai mentioned in latest ESO live

fiftypercentgrey

That would be great. I don't mind the zonespamming. It just seems so inefficient. I'll keep my fingers crossed, then.

Suntzu1414

Group Tool is Worthless (in its current incarnation).

Kill Well
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fiftypercentgrey

yes. seems to not work at all any more. 2+ hours now

Terror

Grouping tool should yield rewards, maybe a mystery item pack similar to [Rewards for the Worthy], with chance at soul gems, and some gold. Should also give a bonus to experience gain, whether it be a passive for being in a group found by the LFG tool, or whether it be a secondary gain for completing the dungeon found by the tool.

MadFlower

There isn't real reason to use it even if they do fix it.

Observant

MadFlower wrote: »

There isn't real reason to use it even if they do fix it.

What world are you living in?

ETA: No update in patch 1.5.6.
Kai lies like a rug.

ZOS_TristanK

Just a quick update on this, folks. We are still working on a fix for the Grouping Tools. The problem is a bit complex from the back end, but rest assured the fix is still a high priority. We'll be sure to give you all more information as it becomes available.

Raighan

Thank you, good to know it is still high priority.

Rune_Relic

Problem is have people so given up trying to use lfg they'll never use it again anyway ?

Cody

i once had to wait seven hours.... SEVEN HOURS.... to find a group for a dungeon......

Cody

yeah ZOS has got to get this fixed. i have been preaching "ignore PvE, focus on PvP" for the past however many months now, but this grouping tool REALLY needs to be fixed.

it should not take 2 hours(or in my case, SEVEN:D) to find THREE PEOPLE for a dungoen. yes i understand its different roles... but its JUST.....THREE....PEOPLE...... i can only imagine what its like if you are looking for a trials group with it.....

ZOS, please fix this as soon as y'all can. the dungeons in this game are very fun!!!!! but its almost impossible to do them because this group finder is such a frustration!!

do people even use it?????

axiomaticb14a_ESO

@ZOS_TristanK As commendable as it is trying to work out the undoubtedly complex coding required for the group tool to work ( and I'm saying this without condescension ), Zenimax has not only missed the boat, but they've crashed down a ravine in a fiery blaze of failure.

Its too late. The tool has not worked for so long that the player base has trained themselves to steer clear of it. Not only do you have the technical problem of making it work, but now you have the difficult social problem of re-teaching people different habits. Good luck!

WhiskyBob

Grouping tool should be their top priority as it is useful only to new players (or low level characters).

I honestly don't feel like doing veteran Crypt of Hearts, Darkshade Caverns, Arena or City of Ash with group of completely random people.

But that tool was exactly what i was missing when I was new to the game, progressing through quests and missing out more and more dungeons on the way as I was unable to find group.

Want more new players to stick around? Fix that tool.

Besides I dont mind talking to people while forming a group. Its a social game is it not?

BigM

I was wondering if they are going to fix this before F2P or is this low on the totem? Because you know we are only paying from day 1 to beta test the game. :-D

wafcatb14_ESO

Lol same useless responses from ZOS. honestly the game for the most part is nothing more than a single player game from 1-50 , with the group dungeon option in each zone.

The entire game all the quests, content etc other than the 1 group dungeon per zone and craglorn, the game is designed as a solo game experience, the crap phase questing they have in game should have made it obvious, that and how no matter what race, class or faction the main story, fighters and mage guilds quests are the same .= no real replay value.

If you actually want to group up , you should do like MMO gamers did for years, long before they made a LFG tool . and that is ask in zone chat for a group [ gasp but that`ll break my solo immersion game exp ] lol .

Kevinmon

When are they going to fix the LFG tool?