The Xp conversion. will you hang around?

jeevin

With the latest patch changing the games Vet points to XP and the massive void between the two, I think it's about time for another useless poll. For those who think that the next update will balance the numbers back in line with the old system, please read
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/138980/clarification-regarding-experience-gain-within-veteran-ranks

lordspyder

Just here for the sweetrolls

Why not wait to see how the fix goes tomorrow before deciding whether or not we like it?

stunning

lordspyder wrote: »

Why not wait to see how the fix goes tomorrow before deciding whether or not we like it?

I agree -- lets see what they do in the patch and see how the game plays than -- just need to wait and see -- taking a week off maybe good -- did look at a lot of other games if this is still crap

Bouvin

No I don't like the new system

Unless they fix it I'm out. No reason continuing with my VR11 or leveling another alt if the only way to level after VR is Craglorn grinding groups.

Elsonso

Just here for the sweetrolls

I intend to run a new character through it to see for myself rather than reading what people are saying on the forum.

gdorsettub17_ESO

Other - please specify

I don't even understand the difference.

Newk

No I don't like the new system

lordspyder wrote: »

Why not wait to see how the fix goes tomorrow before deciding whether or not we like it?

Because they already stated it would have close to no impact ? (paraphrasing here).

I'm amazed there are people who actually support their move to slow down leveling to the degree they have. There have been nothing but complaining about the slow times of VR leveling even before 1.5 and now they chose to slow it even further? I have leveled 2 characters through Craglorn grinding to VR14 and even at that speed it's slow as bloody hell. I think everyone was expecting leveling to get faster than that, not slower. It's not bloody wonder people are mad.

xMovingTarget

Just here for the sweetrolls

you shouldnt put in troll votes mate. It was too tempting for me =(

lordspyder

Just here for the sweetrolls

As reported earlier this week, we have identified a couple issues surrounding experience gain:
Monsters that are well below your level give slightly less experience than intended. This will be fixed in our next incremental patch.
The experience that you receive at the conclusion of a particularly difficult quest can reach a limit, and thus gets capped off. While the cap is there intentionally, it was set to level 50 values rather than VR values. This is being adjusted.

that most certainly will have an impact...

jeevin

No I don't like the new system

xMovingTarget wrote: »

you shouldnt put in troll votes mate. It was too tempting for me =(

but they are tasty aren't they

Xjcon

Yes and I don't know why people have to poll forums to decide for themselves.

Newk

No I don't like the new system

lordspyder wrote: »

As reported earlier this week, we have identified a couple issues surrounding experience gain:
Monsters that are well below your level give slightly less experience than intended. This will be fixed in our next incremental patch.
The experience that you receive at the conclusion of a particularly difficult quest can reach a limit, and thus gets capped off. While the cap is there intentionally, it was set to level 50 values rather than VR values. This is being adjusted.

that most certainly will have an impact...

You left out: "..... We’ve read your concerns about whether or not it’s worthwhile to continue playing your Veteran characters. The short answer is yes. It is still worth it to continue playing your Veteran characters. You will have no significant experience loss due to the identified issues, and you won’t be wasting your time."

How is the world do you expect people to think their comming "fix" will make a difference when they state that it wont ?

Ysne58

Alexander.lanngb16_ESO wrote: »

lordspyder wrote: »

As reported earlier this week, we have identified a couple issues surrounding experience gain:
Monsters that are well below your level give slightly less experience than intended. This will be fixed in our next incremental patch.
The experience that you receive at the conclusion of a particularly difficult quest can reach a limit, and thus gets capped off. While the cap is there intentionally, it was set to level 50 values rather than VR values. This is being adjusted.

that most certainly will have an impact...

You left out: "..... We’ve read your concerns about whether or not it’s worthwhile to continue playing your Veteran characters. The short answer is yes. It is still worth it to continue playing your Veteran characters. You will have no significant experience loss due to the identified issues, and you won’t be wasting your time."

How is the world do you expect people to think their comming "fix" will make a difference when they state that it wont ?

Yeah, this is at best ambiguous.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO

No I don't like the new system

I have already canceled my sub. The game has now become a complete grind fest. If the 1.5.3 patch turn this around I will stay. If not then I will not sub again untill the game stops being a grind fest.

abigfishy

No I don't like the new system

Alexander.lanngb16_ESO wrote: »

lordspyder wrote: »

As reported earlier this week, we have identified a couple issues surrounding experience gain:
Monsters that are well below your level give slightly less experience than intended. This will be fixed in our next incremental patch.
The experience that you receive at the conclusion of a particularly difficult quest can reach a limit, and thus gets capped off. While the cap is there intentionally, it was set to level 50 values rather than VR values. This is being adjusted.

that most certainly will have an impact...

You left out: "..... We’ve read your concerns about whether or not it’s worthwhile to continue playing your Veteran characters. The short answer is yes. It is still worth it to continue playing your Veteran characters. You will have no significant experience loss due to the identified issues, and you won’t be wasting your time."

How is the world do you expect people to think their comming "fix" will make a difference when they state that it wont ?

How is this compatible with their statement that levelling V level characters should be much faster after patch 1.5 whereas it is 10 times slower?

Audigy

Yes I like the new system

I like the new system a lot, it cant be that people are able to advance in VR or soon Champion Ranks by simply killing the same Craglorn boss spawn 24/7.

The game has so much more to offer, simple things like opening a chest, discovering a new cave, reading books or crafting items and those things need to give good xp and be therefore a valuable income of points in future.

I am sorry that Craglorn grinders are unhappy now but there is a new Expansion coming this Thursday which offers you to grind 24/7 the same mob, try this out ESO isn't for you anymore it seems.

Leijona

Other - please specify

At the moment, I don't have a charakter between VR1 and VR14. I only have a level 16 and a VR14 charakter. As soon as I hit VR1 with my alt, the current problems might be solved or I will like the system anyways.

SlayerSyrena

Just here for the sweetrolls

My provisioner still has lots of sweetrolls to bake for his hungry friends so, I'm here regardless of what happens to the xp ...

Emeliana

To what values they will adjust the xp-gain is held in darkness right now, but I think 1.5.3 is going to be make or break for alot of players. The decision is Zenimax's and it is an important one. We will see...

Shinra

Yes I like the new system

Craglorn farming is pretty much out of the picture now. Both the boss runs and hircine. For many people who are in a hurry this will probably hurt. A lot.

I was able to get 1 veteran rank per zone (and a bit of Cyrodiil) before, so if their math is correct (20 hours reduced to 12-15 hours), with my normal playstyle I will be able to get up to V 14 with just the veteran zones.

HeX7

Just here for the sweetrolls

Since I'm not at veteran rank yet on the characters I'm currently playing, I'll be basing my decision off of coming events.

Francescolg

Will the new system cancel the vr 1-14 leveling part if I already did this with my main char?
Or will there still be a "new" form of leveling 1-14 after the cancellation of VR level and the introduction of the champion system?

kwisatz

Other - please specify

I dont mind for levels, xp and all this stuff.
I'm currently VR11, playing since early access with one single character... Numbers are usefull for matching gear or gessing your possibilities... nothing more.

Thavie

No I don't like the new system

with my normal playstyle I will be able to get up to V 14 with just the veteran zones.

The problem is... YOU WILL NOT. You'll get VR 6 with Cadvel Silver and Gold.

Shinra

Yes I like the new system

Thavie wrote: »

with my normal playstyle I will be able to get up to V 14 with just the veteran zones.

The problem is... YOU WILL NOT. You'll get VR 6 with Cadvel Silver and Gold.

(My normal playstyle includes all side quests, all dolmens, all dungeons and all world bosses, just for reference, and I WAS able to get one Vet Rank per Zone before.)

If it would be the case that you can only reach half of those levels now, than their numbers would look something like "20 hours before, now increased time you need for a Veteran Level up to 35 hours"

^^ And if it would really be like that, they would need to and will fix it, soon.

Maotti

Thavie wrote: »

The problem is... YOU WILL NOT. You'll get VR 6 with Cadvel Silver and Gold.

This is the problem! For me at least. I refuse to grind shadow/Hircine's/anomalies, because that is so mindnumbingly boring.

Newk

No I don't like the new system

abigfishy wrote: »

Alexander.lanngb16_ESO wrote: »

lordspyder wrote: »

As reported earlier this week, we have identified a couple issues surrounding experience gain:
Monsters that are well below your level give slightly less experience than intended. This will be fixed in our next incremental patch.
The experience that you receive at the conclusion of a particularly difficult quest can reach a limit, and thus gets capped off. While the cap is there intentionally, it was set to level 50 values rather than VR values. This is being adjusted.

that most certainly will have an impact...

You left out: "..... We’ve read your concerns about whether or not it’s worthwhile to continue playing your Veteran characters. The short answer is yes. It is still worth it to continue playing your Veteran characters. You will have no significant experience loss due to the identified issues, and you won’t be wasting your time."

How is the world do you expect people to think their comming "fix" will make a difference when they state that it wont ?

How is this compatible with their statement that levelling V level characters should be much faster after patch 1.5 whereas it is 10 times slower?

It's not, that's what I mean. It's über slow now and their comming "fix" won't make it faster than before 1.5 and it won't change anything significant with the current rate, based on their own statement.

skibicki

they might actualy fix it more who knows we all should find out soon. if not i think they are going to lose alot of players long term till the champion system comes out since the casuals who dont complain/go to forums are going to continue to quest and eventualy hit a wall when they are vr 5 in a vr 10 zone and just quit. not to mention all the people that will just because they are tired of zos lieing to their customers and then doing complete oppsite.

OrangeTheCat

No I don't like the new system

Alexander.lanngb16_ESO wrote: »

lordspyder wrote: »

Why not wait to see how the fix goes tomorrow before deciding whether or not we like it?

Because they already stated it would have close to no impact ? (paraphrasing here).

I'm amazed there are people who actually support their move to slow down leveling to the degree they have. There have been nothing but complaining about the slow times of VR leveling even before 1.5 and now they chose to slow it even further? I have leveled 2 characters through Craglorn grinding to VR14 and even at that speed it's slow as bloody hell. I think everyone was expecting leveling to get faster than that, not slower. It's not bloody wonder people are mad.

^Yeah, this. The equivalent of 150 levels (!) the progress through which has been made even slower! WTF?

Their patch changes don't help me one bit as my character is vr2 stuck in a vr3 zone (just doing Cadwells). At that rate I will be vr8 in the vr14 zone.

cracker81

Other - please specify

Um.. Don't care and if you are leaving can I have your stuff?

ghengis_dhan

Other - please specify

I don't really care what system they use as long as it works. Given how Caldwell's Silver and Gold zones are designed, you'd think that doing all the content for a zone would level your character once if your character was the same level as the zone.