Crafting motifs - Samurai

thren_fellhorn

Could we get samurai style weapons and armor?

Teiji

Have you seen Akaviri gear in game? I refer to the gear that the fighters guild members are mostly seen wearing, currently you can obtain that gear through the pvp zone Cyrodiil, you have to be of veteran rank in order to get them too.

Being able to graft in Akaviri, could be cool.

thren_fellhorn

I have not seen Akaviri gear yet, or even in the drops. Personally, I just want to use katanas, wakizashi, and tantos in game.

Teiji

Sourced from google - Akaviri armor acquired from Cyrodiil

But yeah, the Ebony Blade is a Daedric artifact of the beautiful Mephala which is a two-handed katana, the Akaviri use the katana also. That said, It's likely just a matter of time before we're able to get our hands on their culture through their gear.

The way It's gone so far, wouldn't be surprised with a content update which opens up Cloud Ruler Temple where you can get unique gear similar to what you've put in your post. I firmly believe what you and I desire is coming, just not any time soon.

justinbarrett

AHHHHH NOOOOOO, the LAST, very last thing I want(besides guns)is a samurai motif....I was a WoW player, and actually stopped playing that due to two things....ancient gameplay ideals and "theMists of Pandaria" expansion...I do not like asian/chinese themes in my fantasy RPG games...there is a place for them for certain, but not in these games. That is my opinion anyway.

Orchish

The Blades armour from previous TESO games always reminded me of Samurai armour.

thren_fellhorn

@justin, I can understand that if it is over done, that can be annoying. But, just for the shear fun of it, I would like to be able to use that style of stuff because of the martial training i do. Just like i would love to have a bo staff, and hand to hand combat trees

thren_fellhorn

Just like I would also love to see chain mail for armor too.

Teiji

justinbarrett wrote: »

I do not like asian/chinese themes in my fantasy RPG games...there is a place for them for certain, but not in these games

The island to the east of the Pandomeic Ocean, is Akavir.
"Akavir, also known as Dragon Land, is a continental landmass east of Tamriel. The two continents have a history of animosity towards each other, with Akavir invading Tamriel several times in the past and Tamriel invading Akavir at least once."

There's an entire continent which is, to a degree and extent, consists of cultures which are eastern, as posted previously the Akaviri are known to use the katana and use it well.

There would never be a "samurai" motif, there may potentially be a motif based on the culture of Akavir.

Aeratus

justinbarrett wrote: »

AHHHHH NOOOOOO, the LAST, very last thing I want(besides guns)is a samurai motif....I was a WoW player, and actually stopped playing that due to two things....ancient gameplay ideals and "theMists of Pandaria" expansion...I do not like asian/chinese themes in my fantasy RPG games...there is a place for them for certain, but not in these games. That is my opinion anyway.

Samurai-style weapons have always been a part of elder scrolls lore. They existed in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

They also exist in ESO too. The pvp style sword is shaped like a Katana.

justinbarrett

I did not mean to offend, and I am well aware of these things...I remember having my butt handed to me in H to H in seyda neen(morrowind) right after getting off the boat, I was new to the ES gameplay and had no idea what I was getting into even back then you could see that the daedra(some) swords were influenced by katanas....I just do not like it...to me it is like having a nord ninja....just offputting and breaks my submersion.

thren_fellhorn

justinbarrett wrote: »

to me it is like having a nord ninja....just offputting and breaks my submersion.

but it would be funny. nord ninjas

kijima

Akaviri is the Elder Scrolls version of Samurai in a sense, it 'looks' a little Samurai, but this is Nirn and we don't have Samurai's there, and nor should. We do have the Akaviri though.

There is a Akaviri styled Dominion Medium Armour set from PvP that looks very 'Last Samurai' in style, and the Akaviri Swords are pretty much a katana through and through.

thren_fellhorn

@kijima I did not know about the the Akaviri until i created this discussion. I was looking to see if the developers would be open to it. I did not know that it was already there in Akaviri. Otherwise I would have put that as the title.

kijima

Traditional Elder Scrolls players who have played through Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim (of which there was a lot of Akaviri talk) would go full spaz if ZOS brought in something like Samurai's

You can't just add things into ESO lore because <reasons> and you'd like it, it's a story and things need to fit into it.

Johnny_NO_skillz

Everyone says it's from PvP... but where? A vendor? Are there token you give the vendor to get the set? Or gold?

What level/alliance rank does it require?

Mordria

Orchish wrote: »

The Blades armour from previous TESO games always reminded me of Samurai armour.

I was going to say the same. It's always reminded me of Samurai also. A Blades Motif would be nice.

justinbarrett

it always seemed roman to me...always.

Rodario

justinbarrett wrote: »

[...] just offputting and breaks my submersion.

I thought we couldn't dive in this game. How did you manage it? Before Samurais pulled you out of the water, that is.

Rodario

justinbarrett wrote: »

it always seemed roman to me...always.

Ah the Romans and their fondness for katanas...

AlexDougherty

thren_fellhorn wrote: »

I have not seen Akaviri gear yet, or even in the drops. Personally, I just want to use katanas, wakizashi, and tantos in game.

Akaviri had Katanas and DaiKatanas, I think it had Wakizashi in Morrowind (but not Oblivion and Skyrim)

Samurai Armour is absent in Elder Scrolls universe, although the masks are similar to Dunmer and Yokudan masks on their Helmets, but they lack the flared edges.

That's as close as you are going to get with Elder Scrolls.

Varicite

justinbarrett wrote: »

AHHHHH NOOOOOO, the LAST, very last thing I want(besides guns)is a samurai motif....I was a WoW player, and actually stopped playing that due to two things....ancient gameplay ideals and "theMists of Pandaria" expansion...I do not like asian/chinese themes in my fantasy RPG games...there is a place for them for certain, but not in these games. That is my opinion anyway.

The entire DK class is based on Akavir, the "asian" culture in TES lore.

It's really pretty heavily ingrained into the lore of TES universe, I don't think anybody is going to be taking them out for your personal tastes.

I'm glad too, because while MoP was a little too "chinese restaurant style over the top caricature of asian culture" for me, I still enjoy being a samurai in the few games of this genre that will allow me to be.

AngryNord

Teiji wrote: »

justinbarrett wrote: »

I do not like asian/chinese themes in my fantasy RPG games...there is a place for them for certain, but not in these games

The island to the east of the Pandomeic Ocean, is Akavir.
"Akavir, also known as Dragon Land, is a continental landmass east of Tamriel. The two continents have a history of animosity towards each other, with Akavir invading Tamriel several times in the past and Tamriel invading Akavir at least once."

There's an entire continent which is, to a degree and extent, consists of cultures which are eastern, as posted previously the Akaviri are known to use the katana and use it well.

There would never be a "samurai" motif, there may potentially be a motif based on the culture of Akavir.

That is a fan-made map, not an official one.

AngryNord

justinbarrett wrote: »

it always seemed roman to me...always.

The cuirasses look more Roman than Samurai, the helmets are more generic European, but the colouring and the greaves and boots kinda look samurai-like. The horns on the helmets in ESO also makes it slightly more samurai-like.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

Yeah, it's PvP armor and not everyone is a PvPer. So, I bought mine from the kiosks.

Johnny_NO_skillz

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Yeah, it's PvP armor and not everyone is a PvPer. So, I bought mine from the kiosks.

How? I thought it requires you to have a high PvP level??

eNumbra

AlexDougherty wrote: »

thren_fellhorn wrote: »

I have not seen Akaviri gear yet, or even in the drops. Personally, I just want to use katanas, wakizashi, and tantos in game.

Akaviri had Katanas and DaiKatanas, I think it had Wakizashi in Morrowind (but not Oblivion and Skyrim)

Samurai Armour is absent in Elder Scrolls universe, although the masks are similar to Dunmer and Yokudan masks on their Helmets, but they lack the flared edges.

That's as close as you are going to get with Elder Scrolls.

Back in Morrowind the Tantos existed as well and while the Akaviri armor looked samurai inspired the Orcish armor was blatantly samurai - masked helmets and all.

danno8

The 2H redguard greatswords resemble katanas imo.

AngryNord

danno816_ESO wrote: »

The 2H redguard greatswords resemble katanas imo.

Not really, they look more Persian/Turkish

AlexDougherty

eNumbra wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

thren_fellhorn wrote: »

I have not seen Akaviri gear yet, or even in the drops. Personally, I just want to use katanas, wakizashi, and tantos in game.

Akaviri had Katanas and DaiKatanas, I think it had Wakizashi in Morrowind (but not Oblivion and Skyrim)

Samurai Armour is absent in Elder Scrolls universe, although the masks are similar to Dunmer and Yokudan masks on their Helmets, but they lack the flared edges.

That's as close as you are going to get with Elder Scrolls.

Back in Morrowind the Tantos existed as well and while the Akaviri armor looked samurai inspired the Orcish armor was blatantly samurai - masked helmets and all.

Right, so maybe they might do some Samurai inspired Akavira Armours, if they ever give us the motif. They won't be all out Samurai styled, but might have elements.

Not that it worries me either way.

eNumbra

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Right, so maybe they might do some Samurai inspired Akavira Armours, if they ever give us the motif. They won't be all out Samurai styled, but might have elements.

Not that it worries me either way.

Agreed, I'm not worried about an Akaviri motif in particular, but I do want to see lots more craftable motifs. Plenty are already in the game as dropable sets, there's no reason to not make them findable as epic or legendary drops - even if it's done like they're doing Dwemer now; but I'll bet Zenimax already has soft plans for that for future content.