Suggestion - Recipe Vendor.

AlexDougherty

Since the crafting writs seem to choose things at random, and getting recipes has always been random, the Provisioning Writs are at best a stab in the Dark.

So how about a vendor with a random selection of recipes, maybe two or three for each provisioning level, changing every forty eight hours. Just to give us a chance, especially if it's a new character. (yes mine was, but not even my others knew the recipe, so...)

Edit~ missed a K out

Gedalya

Interesting suggestion. Not sure I would want this; but a nice thought.

AlnilamE

You can find a lot of lower level recipes for sale at guild vendors.

Nestor

The 3 Trade Guilds I am in have so many recipes for sale that I don't even bother listing mine anymore. The PVE Guild I am in is even more saturated. plus they run 1G Sales on Recipes from time to time.

Now, if this Vendor would sell some Tomatoes and Oats, that would worth something. Even if I had to do a quest for it.

Gythral

Nestor wrote: »

The 3 Trade Guilds I am in have so many recipes for sale that I don't even bother listing mine anymore. The PVE Guild I am in is even more saturated. plus they run 1G Sales on Recipes from time to time.

Now, if this Vendor would sell some Tomatoes and Oats, that would worth something. Even if I had to do a quest for it.

Same here, I just vendor anything that's not purple.
If you need a recipe, chances are 1 of the guild traders or your guilds store will have a copy, often at 27g or less

Kartalin

Guild traders always have tons of recipes, it seems like. After collecting recipes from them on the cheap, I am honestly surprised when I get a recipe I don't know.

I think it might work to have a recipe vendor, or maybe let the grocers sell recipes. As long as they sell green recipes only, the others should still have some degree of scarcity.

Gillysan

I started selling even my blue recipes to the NPC merchants because they are so common and not worth taking up one of the 120 guild store slots I have for selling.

The only recipes that are still kinda worth something are the 5's because of their scarcity.

AlexDougherty

AlnilamE wrote: »

You can find a lot of lower level recipes for sale at guild vendors.

Nestor wrote: »

The 3 Trade Guilds I am in have so many recipes for sale that I don't even bother listing mine anymore. The PVE Guild I am in is even more saturated. plus they run 1G Sales on Recipes from time to time.

Now, if this Vendor would sell some Tomatoes and Oats, that would worth something. Even if I had to do a quest for it.

Gythral wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

The 3 Trade Guilds I am in have so many recipes for sale that I don't even bother listing mine anymore. The PVE Guild I am in is even more saturated. plus they run 1G Sales on Recipes from time to time.

Now, if this Vendor would sell some Tomatoes and Oats, that would worth something. Even if I had to do a quest for it.

Same here, I just vendor anything that's not purple.
If you need a recipe, chances are 1 of the guild traders or your guilds store will have a copy, often at 27g or less

milthalas wrote: »

Guild traders always have tons of recipes, it seems like. After collecting recipes from them on the cheap, I am honestly surprised when I get a recipe I don't know.

I think it might work to have a recipe vendor, or maybe let the grocers sell recipes. As long as they sell green recipes only, the others should still have some degree of scarcity.

I looked there, they didn't have it, which is why I made this suggestion.
I later found the blue version, just need to get the last ingredient now.

I don't want to kill off the guild's selling recipes, I was just think green recipes, not the blue or purple ones, but I do get that it will probably never happen, and some don't want it to.

Nestor

@AlexDougherty‌
If you need recipes, I have a bunch I am getting ready to vendor and more are going to soon be expired in the Guild Stores. Let me know what you need because when I get them all back, they are going to get Vendored. I may not even wait for them to get expired.

And, no I don't have any L15 recipes, in case you were wondering.....

Actually, I might, what Recipe Improvement are L15's?

AlexDougherty

Nestor wrote: »

@AlexDougherty‌
If you need recipes, I have a bunch I am getting ready to vendor and more are going to soon be expired in the Guild Stores. Let me know what you need because when I get them all back, they are going to get Vendored. I may not even wait for them to get expired.

And, no I don't have any L15 recipes, in case you were wondering.....

Actually, I might, what Recipe Improvement are L15's?

I think the level 15 recipes are among the ones you can craft from the start (not sure), but if they aren't it's the first improvement.

But I'll be ok, I suspect I'll end up dropping provisioning writs completely, it's not like it's that hard to level, and I have three alts that can create food for me for all levels.

It's just when the writ asks for a specific foo(or drink in this case Voljar's honey cider)

Nestor

AlexDougherty wrote: »

I think the level 15 recipes are among the ones you can craft from the start (not sure), but if they aren't it's the first improvement.

or drink in this case Voljar's honey cider)

There are defiantly recipes lower than L15, I think they make L6 products. People have been reporting that L15's don't drop, or at least they are as rare as Imperial Motifs.

I think I have that cider recipe, I will have to check. Maybe I just know it. In the mean time, check the Imperial Traders Guild vendor in Daggerfall or the Auction House vendor in Riften as both have a bunch of my recipes listed.

AlexDougherty

Nestor wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

I think the level 15 recipes are among the ones you can craft from the start (not sure), but if they aren't it's the first improvement.

or drink in this case Voljar's honey cider)

There are defiantly recipes lower than L15, I think they make L6 products. People have been reporting that L15's don't drop, or at least they are as rare as Imperial Motifs.

I think I have that cider recipe, I will have to check. Maybe I just know it. In the mean time, check the Imperial Traders Guild vendor in Daggerfall or the Auction House vendor in Riften as both have a bunch of my recipes listed.

Thanks, I actually found the blue quality of the recipe, but I'll check those vendors.

TheVindelator

Pick up the sous chef addon and browse some guild stores and I think you'll come way pretty happy.

Kartalin

Yes, the sous chef addon checkmarks the recipes you don't know both in your inventory and in the guild trader store. Definitely worth picking up. Also it tells what recipes your ingredients go to, which is nice.

radiostar

Maybe have a Recipe-only vendor, with inventory supplied by all the Guilds, near the grocers. It would be natural to shop recipes while buying food supplies.

Woolenthreads

Nestor wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

I think the level 15 recipes are among the ones you can craft from the start (not sure), but if they aren't it's the first improvement.

or drink in this case Voljar's honey cider)

There are defiantly recipes lower than L15, I think they make L6 products. People have been reporting that L15's don't drop, or at least they are as rare as Imperial Motifs.

I think I have that cider recipe, I will have to check. Maybe I just know it. In the mean time, check the Imperial Traders Guild vendor in Daggerfall or the Auction House vendor in Riften as both have a bunch of my recipes listed.

The Recipes are rated as foods edible by L1, L5, L10, L15 etc. You couldn't find an L15 until your character was L13 and as soon as you got to L16 you could only get L20 recipes from the containers. I also found that 95% of the recipes you got after L13 were L1/L5, with a 1% chance of getting a L15. I actually picked up more racial motifs trying to get one single scuttle recipe than I did any L10/L15 recipes. This may have changed, I hope with v1.5.

Alex, you surmise correctly, anything L15 or less did not need an improvement to cook.

AlexDougherty

radiostar wrote: »

Maybe have a Recipe-only vendor, with inventory supplied by all the Guilds, near the grocers. It would be natural to shop recipes while buying food supplies.

I could go for that, it would help massively, and if it's guild supplied nobody loses out.

Epona222

Just a tip for people with recipes to sell:
Lvl 1 recipes - vendor trash, everyone has them
Lvl 40+ recipes, can't move for them, everyone has them, all the guild stores have so many of them that it is difficult to find anything useful, vendor them unless they are purple.
Lvl 5-35 recipes are actually in demand, unfortunately you can only pick them up on an appropriate level character. I would happily pay 2k for a blue lvl 10 health+magicka recipe (fortified scuttle baguette or similar), because there is such a small window of opportunity to get them in game.

Epona222

Sorry, double post!

SantieClaws

Trouble is most characters spend so little time existing before level 20. That means less time for very low level recipes to drop. I can easily find recipes sort of level 3 to 4 and upwards on guild stores but it is the really low level ones that are hard to find. People either throw them away just or sell them to an NPC rather than have them take up a trading slot.

A pain if you are trying to level a provisioning alt or collect every recipe in the game ...

Kalman

Nestor

Woolenthreads wrote: »

The Recipes are rated as foods edible by L1, L5, L10, L15 etc. You couldn't find an L15 until your character was L13 and as soon as you got to L16 you could only get L20 recipes from the containers.

I remember that now. I rocketed past those recipe requirements so fast as Provisioning levels so fast, it was all a blur back in April.

I just pulled 19 recipes from the Guild Stores this morning. Going to have to Vendor them tonight. As someone posted above, they are not selling anymore for RI 5 to RI 6 recipes.

Even the Purple ones do not seem to be selling anymore.

Epona222

Nestor wrote: »

Woolenthreads wrote: »

The Recipes are rated as foods edible by L1, L5, L10, L15 etc. You couldn't find an L15 until your character was L13 and as soon as you got to L16 you could only get L20 recipes from the containers.

I remember that now. I rocketed past those recipe requirements so fast as Provisioning levels so fast, it was all a blur back in April.

I just pulled 19 recipes from the Guild Stores this morning. Going to have to Vendor them tonight. As someone posted above, they are not selling anymore for RI 5 to RI 6 recipes.

Even the Purple ones do not seem to be selling anymore.

I think the problem with the purples is that people are listing them at too high a price now they are more common. I would like to buy a consumate sweetroll recipe as I have not used oats in forever and have a nice stack of them, but as I already have 2 other high level consumate food recipes I am not going to pay 15k+ just for the luxury of having one more!
I'm actually guilty of it myself too, I think a spare purple that I put up on a guild store is likely to expire before it sells - that doesn't mean that everyone has it, just that I misjudged the price. I'll put it up again at a lower price when it expires.

EDIT: I am actually against the idea of a recipe vendor - if you can buy everything you need from NPC vendors, there is no point to guild stores. People just need to be a bit more aware of what is in demand and what isn't, so that they list stuff that people want and price it appropriately.

radiostar

If the recipe vendor's inventory is supplied by the guilds, it's another guild trader.

Klord

maybe a world guild vender or something, its a pain to find some items that just aint listed on my guild stores. an be be listed on others that i never find.

Klord

for example, ive now spent over 2 days trying to do this writ cuz i cant find one recipe for Voljars honey cider
ps, also ive visited and checked every guild trader i found, and no luck, that takes a ton of time i could be doing other things.

AlexDougherty

Klord wrote: »

for example, ive now spent over 2 days trying to do this writ cuz i cant find one recipe for Voljars honey cider
ps, also ive visited and checked every guild trader i found, and no luck, that takes a ton of time i could be doing other things.

Yeah, that one is a pain, I found the enriched version first, which doesn't count for the writs, and then found the recipe a day later in a backpack in the wild.

Having all the recipes from all the guilds in one vendor would make it easier, a downside would be that they are all competing, driving prices down. That's a downside for the sellers, but if means some recipes still would get chucked, because carrying them back for 20 Gold is a chore.

Gythral

Klord wrote: »

maybe a world guild vender or something, its a pain to find some items that just aint listed on my guild stores. an be be listed on others that i never find.

It's called a global auction house, but ZOS wont do it...

AlexDougherty

Gythral wrote: »

Klord wrote: »

maybe a world guild vender or something, its a pain to find some items that just aint listed on my guild stores. an be be listed on others that i never find.

It's called a global auction house, but ZOS wont do it...

Maybe not, but they might consider a global recipe only version.

Anvos

Personally I would say all green recipes should be buyable from merchants corresponding with their appropriate zone.

Beyond that I would say leave blue and purple as drops.

Nebthet78

I like the idea of having a Recipe Vendor, especially once you reach Vet levels.

I would really like to find a Consummate Sweetroll recipe but do not feel like it is work paying over 10k gold for it. However, I would be more interested in trading my 8+ saved up blue recipes (which include a Fortified Sweetroll) for one.

I find a lot of the times, the asking price for things are way too much and other players are just taking advantage of another's wants... mind you that is the whole supply and demand mentality, but it still sucks.