Update 1.6 only fixes/balancing please?

bosmern_ESO

I'm sure I'm not the only one who would want this for update 1.6, but I would love to see update 1.6 be only about fixing problems with, well everything. Granted I love when new things are added to the game and I cannot wait for Champion system, Justice system, and spell crafting.

We need an update that is focusing all resources into fixing the current problems in ESO. I usually defend ZoS, but we all have to admit that there are problems with the game, complaining like children and acting like its not there or as much as a problem will not help the game as a whole.

Some of the problems are:

-Balancing classes
-Balancing builds
-lag spikes/crashes
-grouping system ( I haven't been able to try it in the PTS yet so idk)
-exploits
-server stability
-exploits
-blocking
- CC immunity/break free
-Trolling other factions (I.e Camps)
etc.

As I side note, we must remember that ZoS can't just do everything immediately, these things take time. I would also like to add (supporting having a big update for only balance/fixing problems) that if most players want to fully enjoy things like the Justice system, Champion system, spell crafting most of the problems listed above will need to be resolved.

SO WHAT SAY YOU? MORTAL!?

bedlom

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

Looks like you might be the only one, certainly in the minority.

Gilvoth

I would rather have a update dedicated to fixing/balancing most/all problems for 1.6

as long as we get dark brotherhood squeezed in also then im fine. good to go

Lord_Draevan

I would rather have a update dedicated to fixing/balancing most/all problems for 1.6

I doubt ZOS will change their minds, but it'll be interesting to see what people think.

Sallington

I would rather have a update dedicated to fixing/balancing most/all problems at a later date

UPDATE 1.6!!! THE GREAT CYRODIL STABILITY AND OPTIMIZATION UPDATE!!!!




*Apparently I suck at reading the poll choices.

david.haypreub18_ESO

I would rather have a update dedicated to fixing/balancing most/all problems at a later date

I want Imperial City! I'd be fine with an update that is only fixes after that, though.

someuser

While I AGREE that bug fixes and balancing issues should be addressed, part of what a lot of people think are nerfs are also "changes" to get things ready for the Champion System which is basically a significant overhaul on character builds.

A lot of pre-50 abilities are going to get slashed so that the Champion System points become more critical to your final build.

The advantage, in theory, is that you will no longer be able to wear robes while hitting the soft cap on many major stats and be a one man army. In the Champion System you will have to specialize more at the cost of being weaker at other things.

Lastly, even if they did nothing but fix the current bugs, they would likely just create a whole bunch of new ones anyhow when they release any major content patch...

Sadly, most MMOs are just going to have bugs for a good long while as they grow and mature.

sirston

I would rather have a update dedicated to fixing/balancing most/all problems for 1.6

would like to see some fix's on Cyrodil such lag of amount of players and the soft caps removed and maybe enlarge the pvp zone with more keeps?
and also you posted "-exploits" twice @bosmern_ESO

Gyudan

I would rather have a update dedicated to fixing/balancing most/all problems for 1.6

1.6 is supposed to feature several main additions:
- Imperial City
- Justice System
- Provisioning Revamp

I agree with you, some issues in the game are particularly frustrating and need to be addressed ASAP. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit more for the Justice System and the Provisioning Revamp, as these two, no matter how excited I am about them, will not improve the game in a major way.
The Imperial City, however, is the first new content for PVPers. While I'm not one of those weird adepts of trains, insta-snipes and unbreakable CC, I think they deserve some love too.

Gythral

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

1.6 should be an update.
Every week 'til then should have fixes, if they are stable!

Nox_Aeterna

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

Nah , i would rather have content , i have close to nothing to do in this game currently.

BBSooner

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

Updates for content. Patches for fixes. I don't want ESO to become stagnant.

ZigoSid

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

I want content because that's what 1.X updates are made for.

For fixes we have 1.X.X

Zorrashi

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

I am lucky enough to have little to no problems with my play through (save for Cyrodil). So I am inclined to say I don't want bug fixes that compromise the release of new content. But I would prefer to see a bit more emphasis on bug fixing a bit...just a tad though. Nothing as major as you describe.

Zavus

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

They can do an update dedicated to fixes AFTER imperial city.

briandivisionb16_ESO

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

Option #4:
"Maybe just let the various departments do their f**king job? I don't want the art team working on bug fixes, or the PvE team working on Cyrodiil fixes."

GnatB

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

I rather have new content than most of what you list, because most of what you list I either haven't experienced or is irrelevant to my gameplay, as I don't PvP.

ers101284b14_ESO

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »

Option #4:
"Maybe just let the various departments do their f**king job? I don't want the art team working on bug fixes, or the PvE team working on Cyrodiil fixes."

Your realistic logic has no place here. GTFO

guybrushtb16_ESO

briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »

Option #4:
"Maybe just let the various departments do their f**king job? I don't want the art team working on bug fixes, or the PvE team working on Cyrodiil fixes."

This, most of all. Also, regardless of what the forumites may say, people vote with their wallets and they vote decidedly against bugfixes. I'd hazard a guess and say the vast majority of people playing the game, the casuals, don't even know about most of the bugs to begin with. They most likely don't even read patchnotes and just click "play", so fixing bugs won't immediately do much for their retention rates, and those changes are much harder to communicate for people who are out of the game entirely.

"We have spellcrafting now" or "we have a justice system" or even just "Dark Brotherhood!!11" are things that will be featured on websites and actively draw people in; nobody ever features a bugfixing patch.

That's not saying I personally wouldn't appreciate a lot of polishing of many of the game's established systems, but I can see why it isn't happening at the rate I would like it to.

Hanzus

briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »

Option #4:
"Maybe just let the various departments do their f**king job? I don't want the art team working on bug fixes, or the PvE team working on Cyrodiil fixes."

You sir, have the best answer! that's a winner

Elf_Boy

You could collect 100 players at random and while a few issues might overlap there would still be no consensus on what the "top 10" issues are.

Some of us even believe the few bugs and short comings in the game arnt a big deal and trust they will be resolved in time.

Me I prefer a mix of bug/systems fixes, improvements, and new content.

kijima

In other words, you want PvP fixed... Yeah, not going to happen.

But exquisite lighting 2.0, that'll be on the cards for sure.

xaraan

They have already said 1.6 will have a TON of changes and a larger patch notes list than 1.5 has, which is huge.

But, personally, I'd like to see content continue while they make fixes. Pretending that they magically need one patch to fix everything and then it will be perfect is silly. Every change they make to the game will mean new changes need to be made in the future as balance shifts. This means there is no one easy way to fix something like balance and exploits. Also, the champion system will be a huge repeat of the need for re-balancing once that comes out.

Don't fool yourself into thinking so many things can be fixed so easily. Plus, let's not forget that everyone's opinions on what is balanced or not working right is different for every player you ask.

GnatB

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »

Option #4:
"Maybe just let the various departments do their f**king job? I don't want the art team working on bug fixes, or the PvE team working on Cyrodiil fixes."

I doubt there's different "PvE" and "Cyrodiil" teams. While there are probably scripter/designer folks using the "ESO construction kit" to make new PvE quests and such, odds are those are the same folks who do much of the balance tweaking. (Especially considering said upcoming content involves lots of new abilities. Spell crafting, DB/TG/etc. skill lines, etc.) And a lot of the upcoming features, (justice system, maybe spellcrafting) likely involve quite a bit of system side work, which would likely be many of the same people who would be working on stability/optimization/exploits.

So, yeah. I'm content over fixes. Most of the announced upcoming content would likely be able to cover every discipline.

Valymer

I would rather have a update dedicated to fixing/balancing most/all problems for 1.6

The problem is that the premise of this thread assumes that Zenimax actually knows how to fix the bugs and other longstanding issues. This may be a faulty premise

Still_Mind

Well, if they focus the update *only* on fixes\balancing, pretty much half of the dev team will be sitting on their hands, no?

However, the OP does have a point and ZOE needs a big push for combat fixes and balancing.

bertenburnyb16_ESO

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

we already had a patch like that, what was it 2 or 3, the ones with dyes, guild fixes and other fixes, could hardly call that new content, and look for all the good thats done, even if they wanted to fix "everything" in one patch, they couldn't do it

Cherryblossom

I don't want to wait for 1.6 for fixes and stability.
This is a major issue now, Zenimax should be hiring more just to get these current issues addressed.

Balancing is unnecessary, the champion system is going to create an new Cookie cutter build soon enough that will require nerfing!

Divinius

I would rather have a update dedicated to fixing/balancing most/all problems for 1.6

The results of this poll explain rather well why this game is buggy mess. It's apparently what the majority of the players want.

Most players would rather have more new buggy content, than sacrifice (or simply delay) new content for the stabilization of the existing game.

This is why we will always get things like a buggy mess of a justice system, a buggy mess of a provisioning revamp, and a buggy mess of a champion system, etc., and will never have any hope of a solid and relatively bug-free game. Super.

Ohioastro

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

Or the bugs aren't a big deal and their importance is being grossly exaggerated; they have almost no impact on my game play, for example,

Some of us also recognize that there is no such thing as perfect class / ability balance, and that there is thus no such thing as a single patch that will check that item off the list.

Online games are complex things, and given the sheer variety of ways that people can break code, there will always be "bugs". If you can't stand their existence you're better off playing conservatively designed (plowing the same old ground) single player games, where they don't try anything new and you can't step outside of the box to strain the code.

Romo

I would rather have new content with small fixes along with it

Well, it is a pvp slanted poll.

So I voted for the one that leaves the PVPers hanging in the wind, because all their so-called balances seem to tube the PVEers.

In other words, if it was a 1.6 that just concentrated on bugs, and fixing the lag etc. that seems to really effect the EU server(or even Cryo for both servers) I would have voted for that.