PVP Lag - Fights unplayable

vichoi

Which platform are u playing?
I've transfer from PC to PS4, i used to have lag and crash in PC, but PS4 version just a lot worst.
Used to lag and crash when there are 20 players on the screen in PC, but in PS4 it start to lag when 10 players on the screen, the whole PVP experience is a nightmare.
My guild used to have more than 100 ppl, now there's only less then 20 players online, half of them just rage and quit because the PVP part is unplayable. I'm also considering going back to PC version even that mean a waste of couple months of gaming hours.

DisgracefulMind

Thread necromancy, or what!?

JacksonCarter13

They are never going to fix it. It's obvious at this point is it not ?

manny254

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Thread necromancy, or what!?

The irony is the OP started playing again the other night.

JDar

Flawless necro

Frostylt1987

Still impossible to play.... have developers even responded to us? what will they do? haven't hear any promises, do you?

Tomato

This game is just broken

Jura23

Frostylt1987 wrote: »

Still impossible to play.... have developers even responded to us? what will they do? haven't hear any promises, do you?

I believe they said they are looking into it.

Jules

It's honestly disgusting that the game is left in this condition. I completely agree with everything you said. I'm currently in first for EP on Azura's and the fights there are literally NOT FUN AT ALL at primetime. Total slideshows - can't use my skills, can't swap weapons, can't heal, can't drop ultimate, can barely even dodgeroll to get out of things. Just end up lagging out and dying to enormous blobs of colors and not even knowing how it happened.

The time and energy it takes to get into a position where you can get emp, only to have it ruined by the fact that no one wants to play on that server in prime time is abhorrent. My guild doesn't want to play there, my friends don't want to play there, no one does. And now Haderus is on the fast track to becoming all too similar to Azuras. The common theme is not the people who play this game - its the game itself. We can constantly all run around and blame each other for lag and this and that but at the end of the day, ZOS just needs to fix their game or we're all about to be on the BDO/CU forums having a grand old time.

EDIT: You know what's even more disgusting is I just realized this was a necro'd thread and it's OP was OCTOBER 2014. SAME PROBLEMS IN JANUARY 2016. smfh

PosternHouse

The only reason any of us are still here are because we have no other realm vs realm options at the moment. The moment there is a viable alternative to this, rest assured there will be a sudden interest at ZoS in fixing their server performance issues. This is not a consumer-oriented company, ala CD Projekt Red. This is purely business. If they are getting our money, they don't care. It's partially our fault for not just cutting our subscriptions and never spending another dollar on this game, because we're basically funding all of this.

Keiryan

Lol @ the fact this thread is from October 2014 and the game is still just as bad @ZoS

themdogesbite

Jules wrote: »

It's honestly disgusting that the game is left in this condition. I completely agree with everything you said. I'm currently in first for EP on Azura's and the fights there are literally NOT FUN AT ALL at primetime. Total slideshows - can't use my skills, can't swap weapons, can't heal, can't drop ultimate, can barely even dodgeroll to get out of things. Just end up lagging out and dying to enormous blobs of colors and not even knowing how it happened.

The time and energy it takes to get into a position where you can get emp, only to have it ruined by the fact that no one wants to play on that server in prime time is abhorrent. My guild doesn't want to play there, my friends don't want to play there, no one does. And now Haderus is on the fast track to becoming all too similar to Azuras. The common theme is not the people who play this game - its the game itself. We can constantly all run around and blame each other for lag and this and that but at the end of the day, ZOS just needs to fix their game or we're all about to be on the BDO/CU forums having a grand old time.

EDIT: You know what's even more disgusting is I just realized this was a necro'd thread and it's OP was OCTOBER 2014. SAME PROBLEMS IN JANUARY 2016. smfh

Whats even funnier is that id rather have the game in the state it was in when the thread was created then what we have right now. Its THAT bad....

Jura23

PosternHouse wrote: »

The only reason any of us are still here are because we have no other realm vs realm options at the moment. The moment there is a viable alternative to this, rest assured there will be a sudden interest at ZoS in fixing their server performance issues. This is not a consumer-oriented company, ala CD Projekt Red. This is purely business. If they are getting our money, they don't care. It's partially our fault for not just cutting our subscriptions and never spending another dollar on this game, because we're basically funding all of this.

I'm certainly not spending another cent until they convince me otherwise. And tbh, so far they doing everything to prove me right on this one

sadownik

PosternHouse wrote: »

The only reason any of us are still here are because we have no other realm vs realm options at the moment. The moment there is a viable alternative to this, rest assured there will be a sudden interest at ZoS in fixing their server performance issues. This is not a consumer-oriented company, ala CD Projekt Red. This is purely business. If they are getting our money, they don't care. It's partially our fault for not just cutting our subscriptions and never spending another dollar on this game, because we're basically funding all of this.

Couldnt agree more. We (well im not now but i did pay for few months of sub back in the days) are in fact enablers, we encourage incompetent, shortsighted development.

Tomato

You can thank Crowns group for lagging out Azuras today. They need to run 2-3 24 people groups to do anything.

Manoekin

Tomato wrote: »

You can thank Crowns group for lagging out Azuras today. They need to run 2-3 24 people groups to do anything.

lol

maxjapank

Manoekin wrote: »

Tomato wrote: »

You can thank Crowns group for lagging out Azuras today. They need to run 2-3 24 people groups to do anything.

lol

The AD Zerg was big. And the lag did follow. I lol'd, too.

PURPLE245

i always see this why is pvp laby blah blah maybe pvp would nto bee so laggy is there was not 50+man group running arounf destroying the damn game i dont care what game or what engine it is if you have that many people button mashing skills you cant expect 60fps and 60 ping there is just no *** chance at all thats a thing maybe in 20 years when tech can handle it

Tomato

PURPLE245 wrote: »

i always see this why is pvp laby blah blah maybe pvp would nto bee so laggy is there was not 50+man group running arounf destroying the damn game i dont care what game or what engine it is if you have that many people button mashing skills you cant expect 60fps and 60 ping there is just no *** chance at all thats a thing maybe in 20 years when tech can handle it

You must be new to ESO. It was not like this back in 1.3

Stikato

This is what a game in maintenance mode looks like.

There are still some fun moments to be hard for sure, but I'm sure all of us find it difficult to believe any of this will ever get significantly better. Enjoy the good times, and try not to think too much about the game as whole.

Elong

The reason we're still here is because we love what it used to be so much. You need to fix this ZOS, we're all hanging on like badly treated partners in a relationship. We'll end up leaving eventually.

Niaver

October 2014...

KenaPKK

I'm surprised we're still all so loyal.

The combat system and "Elder Scrolls" name make us stick around, but ZoS has clearly shown that...well, I'll get another forum warning if I complete that sentence.

feelsbadman

Elong wrote: »

The reason we're still here is because we love what it used to be so much. You need to fix this ZOS, we're all hanging on like badly treated partners in a relationship. We'll end up leaving eventually.

^ Oh, saw this after I wrote my post. Right on. This is exactly how I feel.

Karamis_Vimardon

I came for the gameplay, I stay for the people. I honestly feel sorry for Wheeler as most of the stuff causing lag isn't in his department.

Come CU, BDO, Star Citizen, and others being released we'll truly see just how disappointed everyone is in this mockery called PvP and ZoS will be remembered as a company that promised satin and gave us s**t.

JDar

>see this thread bumped

>think Tali is back

>be sad

Frostylt1987

Small comparison: Planetside 2 can handle it easy (many people, no lag). Eso - can't. The game play of elder scrolls online is really unique. It's fun to create your own character just like you want it, i don't know any other game that would have any thing like this. And pvp is amazing, it really is. And the only issue is the lag and persons that "are looking in to". Maybe developers consider selling the game to someone else, maybe then the pvp will be stable. You can take away Orsinium if you like, I would trade no lag pvp for it and pay a bit more even.

Making different servers just for pvp and scaling smaller people count maybe would salve the problem, but Zeni is probably busy taking 40 euro for rare motifs in crown store... give them money and you will have beautiful character, that can stay still and look good... Do we need that?... Doubt...

LazyLewis

Completely 100% agreed. I dint understand how their end game content can have such a lack of care. It okays though guys! They will probably release another trial!

PainfulFAFA

Still waiting to get my $1 mil then i'm out.

Teargrants

PURPLE245 wrote: »

i always see this why is pvp laby blah blah maybe pvp would nto bee so laggy is there was not 50+man group running arounf destroying the damn game i dont care what game or what engine it is if you have that many people button mashing skills you cant expect 60fps and 60 ping there is just no *** chance at all thats a thing maybe in 20 years when tech can handle it

Or, maybe the future is 2 years ago. Behold, 2014!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-BhwhwX38o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bShN6OorF6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DV9TwsosyI

zyk

Teargrants wrote: »

PURPLE245 wrote: »

i always see this why is pvp laby blah blah maybe pvp would nto bee so laggy is there was not 50+man group running arounf destroying the damn game i dont care what game or what engine it is if you have that many people button mashing skills you cant expect 60fps and 60 ping there is just no *** chance at all thats a thing maybe in 20 years when tech can handle it

Or, maybe the future is 2 years ago. Behold, 2014!

Each of those videos feature an eso population that is 99.9% total noob. IMO, the command rate and CPU utilization per player are now MUCH higher.

I do buy the theory that security functions such as anti-bot may have reduced performance. I believe the AE cap changes introduced in 1.6 have also reduced server performance. But so too has the easy sustain gameplay introduced with 1.6 combined with a much more experienced playerbase.