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Can we please talk about the "Twin Sisters" Set

  • Huntler
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    We have a fix potentially going out with Update 5 that will address the rate this item set procs, which we can confirm is currently not working properly. We're still looking into the possible stacking issue, and will let you know when we have an update there.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno‌

    Any reason some updates (typically PVE based) are hotfixed and some (typically PvP) wait until a full release?

    It seems like this is causing a lot of pain for those of us in PvP, is there no way to roll out a fix sooner?

    I imagine the specific wording gives hint as to why its not hotfixed, they "think" they have a solution so its not a done deal quite yet. Probably a bit complicated I'm sure.
  • Xsorus
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    We have a fix potentially going out with Update 5 that will address the rate this item set procs, which we can confirm is currently not working properly. We're still looking into the possible stacking issue, and will let you know when we have an update there.

    heh..I think you probably should look at the issue of certain abilities proccing it a lot. Thunderous armor does the same thing.

    Then again someone could of screwed up the decimal again.
  • Davadin
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    We have a fix potentially going out with Update 5 that will address the rate this item set procs, which we can confirm is currently not working properly. We're still looking into the possible stacking issue, and will let you know when we have an update there.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno‌

    Any reason some updates (typically PVE based) are hotfixed and some (typically PvP) wait until a full release?

    It seems like this is causing a lot of pain for those of us in PvP, is there no way to roll out a fix sooner?

    Moral of the story: when it's broken in PvP, try to frame it in a PvE scenario and bug it in General Forum. Then ZOS will fix it right away.
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  • Erock25
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    Davadin wrote: »
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    We have a fix potentially going out with Update 5 that will address the rate this item set procs, which we can confirm is currently not working properly. We're still looking into the possible stacking issue, and will let you know when we have an update there.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno‌

    Any reason some updates (typically PVE based) are hotfixed and some (typically PvP) wait until a full release?

    It seems like this is causing a lot of pain for those of us in PvP, is there no way to roll out a fix sooner?

    Moral of the story: when it's broken in PvP, try to frame it in a PvE scenario and bug it in General Forum. Then ZOS will fix it right away.

    How is that the moral of the story when someone just basically /bugged it in pvp forums and got a response in 2.5 hours?
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  • Davadin
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Davadin wrote: »
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    We have a fix potentially going out with Update 5 that will address the rate this item set procs, which we can confirm is currently not working properly. We're still looking into the possible stacking issue, and will let you know when we have an update there.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno‌

    Any reason some updates (typically PVE based) are hotfixed and some (typically PvP) wait until a full release?

    It seems like this is causing a lot of pain for those of us in PvP, is there no way to roll out a fix sooner?

    Moral of the story: when it's broken in PvP, try to frame it in a PvE scenario and bug it in General Forum. Then ZOS will fix it right away.

    How is that the moral of the story when someone just basically /bugged it in pvp forums and got a response in 2.5 hours?

    There's another post in the General section? See page 1. And also in here it's mentioned that it's affecting PvE as well.

    EDIT: there it is.
    Arowe_eso wrote: »
    Post about it in the general forums, say it breaks immersion and they'll hotfix it out tonight

    Edited by Davadin on October 27, 2014 7:37PM
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  • Galalin
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    I have been running this set for quite a while now and im not so sure it is stacking. If it were stacking you would see higher numbers but as it looks to me it is being re applied. I belive the issue is more that certain attacks seem to proc it all the time... this is just my observation from someone who actually wears it. As far as the proc rate if you use an attack that generates 5hits with a 20% proc rate you pretty much sure to eat TS and if your spammining it... your pretty much sure to have it reapply possible 3-4 times. With the low numbers im seeing on that damage that would be the case as it did not finish the 800 ish damage on any of them
  • Maulkin
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    Columba wrote: »
    We have a fix potentially going out with Update 5 that will address the rate this item set procs, which we can confirm is currently not working properly. We're still looking into the possible stacking issue, and will let you know when we have an update there.

    so i guess those defending this overpowered piece of trash are wrong? thanks.

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  • Tintinabula
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    I was just in a 2v3 fight and took 24k damage. (Of course I blocked through a lot of the fight.) My twin sisters did not go off once on either of the two enemies.

    My Twin sisters stopped proccing on caltrops two evenings ago and doesn't proc anymore off caltrops.

    Are you positive there hasn't already been a stealth nerf/fix? Cause if not my Twin sisters set has broken.
    Edited by Tintinabula on October 27, 2014 8:15PM
  • Mojomonkeyman
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    I was just in a 2v3 fight and took 24k damage. (Of course I blocked through a lot of the fight.) My twin sisters did not go off once on either of the two enemies.

    My Twin sisters stopped proccing on caltrops two evenings ago and doesn't proc anymore off caltrops.

    Are you positive there hasn't already been a stealth nerf/fix? Cause if not my Twin sisters set has broken.

    I bet you crashed before that fight and relogged being dead, which caused your set to not activate. As soon as you put one piece on/off it will reacitvate.

    Since I use the set this is my "indicator" for when I have to reequip a piece of gear to get the bonus going again.

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  • Tintinabula
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    I was just in a 2v3 fight and took 24k damage. (Of course I blocked through a lot of the fight.) My twin sisters did not go off once on either of the two enemies.

    My Twin sisters stopped proccing on caltrops two evenings ago and doesn't proc anymore off caltrops.

    Are you positive there hasn't already been a stealth nerf/fix? Cause if not my Twin sisters set has broken.

    I bet you crashed before that fight and relogged being dead, which caused your set to not activate. As soon as you put one piece on/off it will reacitvate.

    Since I use the set this is my "indicator" for when I have to reequip a piece of gear to get the bonus going again.

    yep that's exactly what happened Thank you for the heads up.
  • Huntler
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    I was just in a 2v3 fight and took 24k damage. (Of course I blocked through a lot of the fight.) My twin sisters did not go off once on either of the two enemies.

    My Twin sisters stopped proccing on caltrops two evenings ago and doesn't proc anymore off caltrops.

    Are you positive there hasn't already been a stealth nerf/fix? Cause if not my Twin sisters set has broken.

    I bet you crashed before that fight and relogged being dead, which caused your set to not activate. As soon as you put one piece on/off it will reacitvate.

    Since I use the set this is my "indicator" for when I have to reequip a piece of gear to get the bonus going again.

    This happens with many sets and breaks their "5 piece" so while I don't use Twin Sisters I can confirm things like this do happen.
  • Sleep
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    We have a fix potentially going out with Update 5 that will address the rate this item set procs, which we can confirm is currently not working properly. We're still looking into the possible stacking issue, and will let you know when we have an update there.
    Sounds awesome.
  • kijima
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    It looks like everyone in PvP land will be getting their AP and using it on purchasing twin sisters, then using flurry, crushing shock, caltrops and anything else that stacks like crazy with it.

    At least until update 5 anyway.
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...

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  • Huntler
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    kijima wrote: »
    It looks like everyone in PvP land will be getting their AP and using it on purchasing twin sisters, then using flurry, crushing shock, caltrops and anything else that stacks like crazy with it.

    At least until update 5 anyway.

    Someone didn't read this thread fully or understand whats going on.... :|
  • timidobserver
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    It'll probably be set to proc once every 15 seconds or something absurd to make it useless.
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  • kijima
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    I did read it in it's entirety, and understand it. I also have a set myself. :)

    As soon as there is a thread mentioning a set that isn't working as intended, the sheeple go out and buy it and use what is broken.

    Always happens, I give you nights silence. What a band wagon that was...
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  • Erock25
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    kijima wrote: »
    It looks like everyone in PvP land will be getting their AP and using it on purchasing twin sisters, then using flurry, crushing shock, caltrops and anything else that stacks like crazy with it.

    At least until update 5 anyway.

    You own the set but don't understand exactly how the dmg procs?
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  • Bashev
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    kijima wrote: »
    It looks like everyone in PvP land will be getting their AP and using it on purchasing twin sisters, then using flurry, crushing shock, caltrops and anything else that stacks like crazy with it.

    At least until update 5 anyway.
    kijima wrote: »
    I did read it in it's entirety, and understand it. I also have a set myself. :)

    As soon as there is a thread mentioning a set that isn't working as intended, the sheeple go out and buy it and use what is broken.

    Always happens, I give you nights silence. What a band wagon that was...
    Please read the thread again!!!!!!!!

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  • stoop420
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    boooo leave twin sisters alone. This is a l2p issue.
  • stoop420
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    I was just in a 2v3 fight and took 24k damage. (Of course I blocked through a lot of the fight.) My twin sisters did not go off once on either of the two enemies.

    That is the "bug" they should be addressing. The only workaround I found is to alt-f4 and log back in. It will work again.. for a while

  • Bashev
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    ZoS should add a passive to the heavy armor tree which works as Twin Sister set. 20% chance to proc bleed for 10 sec 100 damage. It is not for the damage, it is for the ultimate generation.
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  • Galalin
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    The problem is more what procs it.... i agree caltrops and some others should probably not proc the set... but what ppl are failing to see is it is not stacking.... it is only re-applying itself. I will tell you that if i was waving a stick around and was spamming impulse against a dk spamming frag shield... i would probably make that mistake once.... if you understand what your fighting there are ways to counter it. Its like anything new ppl think its better than it is until they inderstand it. That said i do believe that some minor changes as to what procs it should suffice in solving the issue


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  • Ifthir_ESO
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    The problem is blocking is probably the most OP thing in this game, just like bash used to be.

    The minute block isn't the end all/be all, PvP changes dramatically.
  • Galalin
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    The problem is blocking is probably the most OP thing in this game, just like bash used to be.

    The minute block isn't the end all/be all, PvP changes dramatically.

    Even though im a block spamming scrub dk... i must agree with you. It would provide for a lot more exciting PvP. Although there are other thing that would need balancing to still allow tanks survivability if they go that route

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  • kijima
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    You own the set but don't understand exactly how the dmg procs?

    Did you hit your head or something?

    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...

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  • Sanct16
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    kijima wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    You own the set but don't understand exactly how the dmg procs?

    Did you hit your head or something?
    Did you? Flurry, Crushing Shock only make the Set proc when you are hit by these abilities.
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  • Galalin
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    You own the set but don't understand exactly how the dmg procs?

    Did you hit your head or something?

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    Did you? Flurry, Crushing Shock only make the Set proc when you are hit by these abilities.
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    This is true. Group hug

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    Ps:not sure what happened with the quote
    Edited by Galalin on October 28, 2014 1:30AM
  • Ezareth
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    Caltrops has caused far more problems than they've ever been worth.

    I just the new seducers was like the old and worked on ultimate as well.
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  • Galalin
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    Caltrops has caused far more problems than they've ever been worth.

    I just the new seducers was like the old and worked on ultimate as well.

    Much agreed sir. Would rather see them increase the snare, remove the damage and slow attack speed of all skills... but that wont happen so i will just stand in them and block for now

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  • kijima
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    Sanct16 wrote: »
    kijima wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    You own the set but don't understand exactly how the dmg procs?

    Did you hit your head or something?
    Did you? Flurry, Crushing Shock only make the Set proc when you are hit by these abilities.

    Yes.... that's riiiiiiiiiiiight..... ?

    I threw trops on Galalin who wears TS near two weeks ago, bad stuff happened, what's your point genius?

    I said I have the set, I didn't say that I don't know how it works.


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