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Outlaws: How Deep in Crime Are You Willing to Go?

  • Tabbycat
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    I wonder if this means we will finally be able to buy and sell Skooma on the black market.
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  • Heishi
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    I plan to cause as much havoc as possible

    To people concerned about balance. There was a poll not to long ago that got a lot of responses to it. It stayed pretty much even between people who would go outlaw or enforcer. Hopefully it stays that way, which I don't see why it wouldn't.
    And so did many brave men, women, and beast fall to the end of Beta, never to be heard from again. All that is left, is whispers of the adventures they had.
  • AshySamurai
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    shadowz081 wrote: »

    Hell, if this isn't a joke, it's a very good news.

    In all honesty though, you don't want all the good pvp'ers on one side of the spectrum, that will just force a bias to the side with the most good pvp'ers that can leave a trail of dead players in their wake. You want more or less an even split, so both side seem as appealing, because getting your face kicked in repeatedly by an [insert class here] that knows what they are doing in less than 10 sec against someone who has almost never pvp in a 1 on 1 or even a 1 on 'x' fight is not fun, nor will it be a good introduction to the side of the justice system they have chosen. It will also clog up forum post about 'z' side is overpowered and open up another can of worms of about 'nerf class 'y' and/or buff my class'.

    TBH I'm not afraid of good PvP'ers disbalance simply because I think they split in equal numbers to outlaws/enforcers to do PvP Arena in PvE zone (at least I hope so). But not all like challenge. It's possible that mostly people will choose the strongest side only because it's safer. And "good PvP'ers" can't affect on this.
    Of course I don't want a disbalance of forces. In that case what the point off all this? Choose a winner/looser side and win/loose regardless of your action? Pffff.
    I still hope that the forces will be equal and it will be a lot of fun.
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  • Elloa
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    I'm not planning anything. I'll see how my character will turn to be. I've a feel that she will not be Outlaw though.
  • Mountain_Dewed
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    I just pick pocketed your Signet of the Warlock...
  • ThisOnePosts
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    Hybrid.... there are definitely some NPCs that I'm going back for when I am able to finally attack them.

    Hopefully we can lay out some justice on NPCs from Quests that didn't let you kill them. I know it's non-essential NPCs only but maybe we could still whoop their butts like they allowed you to in Skyrim.
  • Rune_Relic
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    It appears you want pre-emptive warning as to who the winning side will be. So I didn't vote on principal.
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  • Heishi
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    Elloa wrote: »
    I'm not planning anything. I'll see how my character will turn to be. I've a feel that she will not be Outlaw though.

    Being an altaholic, I make back stories for my characters (though I don't RP or in anyway really reflect this except in game choices).

    As much as I'm pro outlaw, I have at two characters who would be enforcers. two that would be neutral, and 4 that would be outlaws.
    And so did many brave men, women, and beast fall to the end of Beta, never to be heard from again. All that is left, is whispers of the adventures they had.
  • kimboh
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    I'm leaning towards enforcer but there will need to be a substantial incentive to out weigh the lure of being an outlaw.
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  • Digiman
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    I look forward to the more supernatural elements this Justice system will provide, Vampire or Werewolf or both raids on towns and such seems like a very fun aspect of this system.
  • Kvasir Silverpaw
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    Balls deep. (can I say that here?)
  • dan958
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    I am the law!
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  • justin.sniesakub17_ESO
    I need more information. I am leaning towards being an Enforcer but that may change when the system goes live.
    For the night is dark and full of terrors.
  • AshySamurai
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    dan958 wrote: »
    I am the law!

    Negotiation's over. Sentence is death.
    Make sweetrolls, not nerfs!
  • Mountain_Dewed
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    I fought the law and the law won lost!
  • Heishi
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    kimboh wrote: »
    I'm leaning towards enforcer but there will need to be a substantial incentive to out weigh the lure of being an outlaw.

    Actually the enforcers are going to get to experience a whole new part of the game where they get to go into bandit hideaways and recover stolen goods for rewards. If I understood correctly, these are going to be instanced.

    I suspect this is specifically designed to counter the amount of loot and riches outlaws will get.

    Basically:

    Outlaws loot NPCs

    Enforcers loot bandit NPC dungeons.
    And so did many brave men, women, and beast fall to the end of Beta, never to be heard from again. All that is left, is whispers of the adventures they had.
  • LegendaryMage
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    As far as I know, Enforcers will also loot other outlaws when they kill them, and then return the stolen gear to an outpost of some sort, which gives a bit of room to the outlaw to catch up to the enforcer and try to kill him. Should be fun. :)
  • Hamfast
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    I will see how the justice system is implemented, if it can force me to play in a way I do not like, I will find another game. If I can participate without having to do the things that turn me off to games, then I may... best of all worlds would be if it does not affect my play in any (what is for me) negative way.
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  • Heishi
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    Hamfast wrote: »
    I will see how the justice system is implemented, if it can force me to play in a way I do not like, I will find another game. If I can participate without having to do the things that turn me off to games, then I may... best of all worlds would be if it does not affect my play in any (what is for me) negative way.

    Short of seeing a bunch of players fighting, it shouldn't effect gameplay for those who don't want it. They already stated quest important npcs won't be killable. Being an enforcer will only work if you equip the tabard for it.

    The only real gameplay effect I foresee is getting a bounty for looting from places they deem you're not supposed to like merchants and such. Even then I don't know if it will be restricted to pickpocketing or include items around them and their stall,
    And so did many brave men, women, and beast fall to the end of Beta, never to be heard from again. All that is left, is whispers of the adventures they had.
  • Sighlynce
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    Not only will I empty a house of its treasure and slaughter its inhabitants, I'm more than happy to extend my scandalous and villainous depravity to any who enters the domain while I am present.... muhahahahahah >:) ... Tread carefully when looking for those motifs !!!!!! ;)
    "What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" - Paarthurnax
  • Sighlynce
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    I've talked with some of the top names from Cyrodiil and I have bad news for outlaws. Most of these will be enforcers. I don't think that some outlaws realize what this means but they will soon after the system launches... :)


    Ooooh :o Time to brush up on my Pvp !!! This is gonna be fun :D
    "What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" - Paarthurnax
  • LegendaryMage
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    I've talked with some of the top names from Cyrodiil and I have bad news for outlaws. Most of these will be enforcers. I don't think that some outlaws realize what this means but they will soon after the system launches... :)


    Ooooh :o This is gonna be fun :D

    It's gonna be hilarious. :D
    Edited by LegendaryMage on October 21, 2014 2:43AM
  • AceOkarito
    It depends on which character I would be using, but my main character would probably go to large lengths for crime, but not so much that he would be hunted down by the entire enforcer army.
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  • drschplatt
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    My main toon went through the main story letting people live, trying to fix problems, and being a nice person. So I imagine the main character will be an enforcer if anything. My second toon that I'm running through the game is a total a-hole, pushing people off towers, showing no mercy, and generally not making any friends. I imagine this character will be an outlaw if anything.

    Other than that, my guild has talked about forming gangs and posses to work together.
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  • zbtiqua
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    I'm going for the bounty high score.
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  • jelliedsoup
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    Robin Hood type approach....
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  • Xexpo
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    milk drinker farm incoming :cookie:
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