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  • babylon
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    Tyr wrote: »

    Do people celebrate Christmas 3 weeks early in your fantasy world?
    In my ideal fantasy world every day would be a christmas celebration or something similar...so yes?
  • Tyr
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    Audigy wrote: »

    I don't think the patch will come this month, I see it more around mid / end of November. Keep in mind they said 6-8 weeks between updates and not 4 ;)

    And since we do have Christmas in December (you know when you celebrate with your family), New years eve (when you party with your friends) a patch is very unlikely around that time.

    I also think that an announcement was made in regards of 1.6 coming in January.

    We will see what happens but I wouldn't get my hopes too high.

    they said 4-6 weeks originally and have held to 1. 6 week schedule up to this point. They did delay the usual release to PTS by 2 weeks this time, but according to what was talked about in the guild summit, they are still tracking 1.5 on live for the usual 6 weeks.

    The only way that they wouldn't make 1.6 before the week of Christmas is if both 1.5 and 1.6 are pushed to 8 weeks, which would be very out of the norm of what they have done up to now.
  • Brother_Numsie
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    Tyr wrote: »

    Do people celebrate Christmas 3 weeks early in your fantasy world?
    As early as they put out decorations in the stores, you would think they do. ;)

    And actually in most fantasy games, yes they do, in fact three weeks before Christmas would be kind of late for this content.

    But in all seriousness, generally, if content is not released during the first week of December (at the very latest) you wont see anything until sometime after the new year. This is because December is pretty much taken up with one holiday or another that someone would want to take time off work. Since, at that point, there is rarely enough people left in the office to get anything done, those who are there are tasked with just holding down the fort.

    And ask yourself this: Would you really want to see new content drop with just a skeleton crew around to fix any problems that may arise from said drop?
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    babylon wrote: »
    In my ideal fantasy world every day would be a christmas celebration or something similar...so yes?

    The Skywatch Defiance Festival!!
  • kevlarto_ESO
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    Tyr wrote: »

    There's 10 weeks left in the year and 1.5 will be live at the end of this month, so why would you think there would be no 1.6 in the first half of December on schedule?

    Mostly because this road ahead really had nothing about, well the road ahead, and I have been on the pts there is a lot of work to do, plus we are getting into the holiday season people taking time off productivity in the next couple of months kinda slows down, but like I said they might surprise us since we have no idea how far along they are on the next update.

    Edited by kevlarto_ESO on October 17, 2014 2:12AM
  • Sigerk
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    Hmm. The way I see it we have had a big load of information over the past few weeks with the live episodes and the summit summary. This info covered a large portion of what is to come. Going beyond update 1.5 too. I don't see what they could have done more in this road ahead update. I feel we have been given some good insights to whats ahead. People still wanted a road ahead article, even after all this info they already had gotten. I don't think its fair how people react to it now.

    You're given a crapton of information regarding future updates, yet it is still not enough. They give in and dump a road ahead article on here which yeah, is underwhelming, but given the wealth of info we just had, what did you expect? I think you can only go so far in giving out info on whats to come. After that its just overkill with the risk of disappointing/angering players when things change.

    I feel that whatever this company does, its never enough. Thats not to say there arent any problems or that their communication doesnt need work(tho in my opinion its okayish mostly).

    Tl;dr:
    I don't know, something irks me about people clamoring for this after all the info we've had, then complain when its there and its just a recap of things we already know. It reminds me of a spoiled child screaming; More more more! Even though its already oversaturated.

    Just my two cents, no offense intended.
  • Gyudan
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    Maybe this should be renamed to "The Road we have traveled". I find the lack of new info disturbing.
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  • rophez_ESO
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    Sigerk wrote: »
    I don't see what they could have done more in this road ahead update.

    Really? How about:
    • Info on timeline for Champion System
    • Info on timeline for Justice System
    • Info on timeline for Spellcrafting
    • Info on timeline for Imperial City
    • Info on specific improvements to PVP
    • Info on horse races
    • Info on Dark Brotherhood
    • Info on Thieves guild
    • Info on PVP skill tree addtions
    • Info on morphs to class skills to use stamina as a resource
    • Info on console release plans or progress
    • Any details or screenshots on the Champion System/Justice System/Spellcrafting system

    I mean I can go on - but it's obvious what the fans want info on. They could have given us a bone or two, instead of rehashing the PTS notes.
    Edited by rophez_ESO on October 17, 2014 2:22PM
  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    rophez_ESO wrote: »

    Really? How about:
    • Info on timeline for Champion System
    • Info on timeline for Justice System
    • Info on timeline for Spellcrafting
    • Info on timeline for Imperial City
    • Info on specific improvements to PVP
    • Info on horse races
    • Info on console release plans or progress
    • Any details or screenshots on the Champion System/Justice System/Spellcrafting system

    I mean I can go on - but it's obvious what the fans want info on. They could have given us a bone or two, instead of rehashing the PTS notes.

    Well none of that stuff is in 1.5 so no they couldn't do updates about it. Especially if there is nothing new to report.
  • Gorthax
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    Sigerk wrote: »
    Hmm. The way I see it we have had a big load of information over the past few weeks with the live episodes and the summit summary. This info covered a large portion of what is to come. Going beyond update 1.5 too. I don't see what they could have done more in this road ahead update. I feel we have been given some good insights to whats ahead. People still wanted a road ahead article, even after all this info they already had gotten. I don't think its fair how people react to it now.

    You're given a crapton of information regarding future updates, yet it is still not enough. They give in and dump a road ahead article on here which yeah, is underwhelming, but given the wealth of info we just had, what did you expect? I think you can only go so far in giving out info on whats to come. After that its just overkill with the risk of disappointing/angering players when things change.

    I feel that whatever this company does, its never enough. Thats not to say there arent any problems or that their communication doesnt need work(tho in my opinion its okayish mostly).

    Tl;dr:
    I don't know, something irks me about people clamoring for this after all the info we've had, then complain when its there and its just a recap of things we already know. It reminds me of a spoiled child screaming; More more more! Even though its already oversaturated.

    Just my two cents, no offense intended.

    The issue is they told us all this info BEFORE the road ahead. Then we get the road ahead and its everything they told us already. It was very lack luster. Nothing new, nothing about stuff being close to ready etc etc. They put very little thought into this.

    However, it is really nice to see everything they have been working on via the patch notes for pts 1.5. That is rather impressive :D

  • Gorthax
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    Well none of that stuff is in 1.5 so no they couldn't do updates about it. Especially if there is nothing new to report.

    None of the stuff was in any of the previous patches when they released the previous road ahead, but it was nice reading what they were doing, how close they were to completing it, and just having the info. People dont want to recap what we were told a week before. That is the issue here
  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Gorthax wrote: »

    None of the stuff was in any of the previous patches when they released the previous road ahead, but it was nice reading what they were doing, how close they were to completing it, and just having the info. People dont want to recap what we were told a week before. That is the issue here

    The previous Road Aheads where about stuff that was going to be in the next patch. None of the stuff he mentioned was going to be in 1.5 so it makes it pointless to be in the road ahead. Unless they decide to start doing it differently and using the Road Aheads to be the Road Super Far Ahead.
  • Gorthax
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    Example being this:

    http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8

    NONE of that stuff was in the patch following that road ahead article. It was just a glimpse into the future.

    Or how about this road ahead:

    http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2014/06/04/the-road-ahead--june-4th

    all stuff they were working on and getting ready to release. Again, not in the following patch. Far more detailed and exciting than what we got in this last one. So yes; they could of talked about stuff they were/are working on.
  • rophez_ESO
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    The previous Road Aheads where about stuff that was going to be in the next patch. None of the stuff he mentioned was going to be in 1.5 so it makes it pointless to be in the road ahead. Unless they decide to start doing it differently and using the Road Aheads to be the Road Super Far Ahead.

    Uh, no, that's not how it's been in the past, and that's why we're a bit disappointed.
  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    In the June one the only thing not in the following update was the dyes which was in the updates after that one. With July pretty much all that stuff was coming up. But since you really wanna argue it.

    "we’ll be talking about our six-month reward soon." Not gonna be in 1.5

    "On a related note, we’ll be moving collectibles like pets out of your inventory soon and into their own collections UI, keeping your pack just a little lighter." Not in 1.5

    "and soon we’ll be introducing new player options to cull visual effects to increase your client’s framerate" Noty in 1.5

    So yeah they did talk about stuff that they are working on not on the PTS.
  • Pallmor
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    November's Road Ahead will just read "We're working on stuff."
  • rophez_ESO
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    Hey, if you're happy, you're happy. Good for you! I personally was hoping for a lot more meat to this letter, considering they skipped September. I mean, we rarely hear from Matt Firor himself, these days - he doesn't seem to do interviews or anything anymore, so I was hoping that the guy in charge, when he writes his monthly (or not) letter, would have the guts to talk about some of the more distant goals down the road. Other devs have the excuse that the boss doesn't want them talking about those things yet. No biggie, my life will go on.
  • neueregel
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    Maybe it was 'mistaken' from ESO as the 'road ahead'... but it actually is the preview of the coming1.5 update... that is what it looks like to me... Patch notes...
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    On my command, unleash hell!
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  • Gorthax
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    In the June one the only thing not in the following update was the dyes which was in the updates after that one. With July pretty much all that stuff was coming up. But since you really wanna argue it.

    "we’ll be talking about our six-month reward soon." Not gonna be in 1.5

    "On a related note, we’ll be moving collectibles like pets out of your inventory soon and into their own collections UI, keeping your pack just a little lighter." Not in 1.5

    "and soon we’ll be introducing new player options to cull visual effects to increase your client’s framerate" Noty in 1.5

    So yeah they did talk about stuff that they are working on not on the PTS.

    Yes, exactly my point. Yet now that I think about it, they did spill the beans during the guild summit so there would be no point in telling us all that info again in a road ahead. I humbly bow out. The road ahead is exactly what it should be :P very little since a lot was spilled already
  • MornaBaine
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    Zero discussion of doing ANYTHING to improve player experience for vampires and werewolves. Color me disappointed.
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

  • Gorthax
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Zero discussion of doing ANYTHING to improve player experience for vampires and werewolves. Color me disappointed.

    Not true, I am going to have a great experience now with the nerf to batswarm :P
  • MornaBaine
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    Gorthax wrote: »

    Not true, I am going to have a great experience now with the nerf to batswarm :P

    I'm sorry...but now you have to die.
    j/k ;)
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

  • Gorthax
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    Sorry, couldnt resist myself :D
  • Rodario
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    No news or sneak peeks at all.
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  • Csub
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    Well, so long as the ESO live episodes keep being good and informative. I don't mind if Road Ahead articles are less juicy with information.
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
  • Rodario
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    Csub wrote: »
    Well, so long as the ESO live episodes keep being good and informative. I don't mind if Road Ahead articles are less juicy with information.

    Except some of us, me included, prefer reading to audiostreams.
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  • Csub
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    Rodario wrote: »

    Except some of us, me included, prefer reading to audiostreams.

    Well true, but the info is usually collected on websites and people discuss it on the forums too and, as you can see, the Road Ahead is filled with information already heard at ESO Live - so practically you still get what you usually got from Road Ahead, minus the future plans like earlier but we don't have them in ESO Live either anyway.
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
  • Rosveen
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    Well none of that stuff is in 1.5 so no they couldn't do updates about it. Especially if there is nothing new to report.
    Things coming in 1.5 are outlined in the patch notes. The Road Ahead has a different purpose - or at least I thought it did. Previously it was a general outline of their future plans, showing more than just the next patch.
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    Seems this one is using the rearview mirror, as the things it talks about are already set in concrete and not what we can expect in the medium term. :disappointed:
    “Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
    Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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